Wondering if anyone has any experience of this foil for winging, and particularly for (fast) wing foil racing?Anecdotally it seems some riders are using it... Any info gratefully received!
Nils Stolzlechner has been using the new R5 700 and really likes it. Says it's faster and more high performance than the ML 800.
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Nils Stolzlechner has been using the new R5 700 and really likes it. Says it's faster and more high performance than the ML 800.
Thanks! great intel!
Select to expand quoteOn 12th Nov 2023 r0d said...
I've also raced on the AFS Pure Race 560 and a Levitaz R5-S, both are much faster again, but the Levitaz in particular is extremely technical to ride
r0d, You wrote this in the ART PRO thread. I moved to here to be on topic.
Please describe the Levitaz R5-S behaviour, when winging. eg. What do you mean by extremely technical, in terms of pitch, roll, straight speed, S-carve turns, high lean upwind, etc? Just suggesting some ways to describe it. I know they can often be hard to describe in words. Also what sail make+model+size and what wind speed? Thanks.
it's no anecdote though that recently Mathis Ghio won European Wingfoil Championship 2024 on this foil and leads the World Wingfoil Racing series. You can find lots of postings on Insta and FB including video clips. Best Youtube clips are from Defi Wing 2024, which Mathis won as well and show his dominance in challenging Tramontana conditions. Enjoy !
I've tried the ML700, R5 and Chubanga V3. All surprisingly easy to wing on. ML700 is more of an all rounder than a race foil, great glide, carve, bottom end and very slippery. R5 was very fast, stable and turned well but I'd give the Chubanga V3 the edge. Didn't get chance to really push them but R5 and V3 both sat very comfortably on 24-25 knots.
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I've tried the ML700, R5 and Chubanga V3. All surprisingly easy to wing on. ML700 is more of an all rounder than a race foil, great glide, carve, bottom end and very slippery. R5 was very fast, stable and turned well but I'd give the Chubanga V3 the edge. Didn't get chance to really push them but R5 and V3 both sat very comfortably on 24-25 knots.
Thanks. The R5 seems well behaved. Which I presumed it would be. Did you do over 30 kts on any of them, and remember anything interesting in their beahviour? Such as pitch stability variation with speed change. Have you ridden the R5-S? Perhaps R0d was thinking about difficulty avoiding stalling, when he wrote that the "R5-S is extremely technical to ride".
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I've tried the ML700, R5 and Chubanga V3. All surprisingly easy to wing on. ML700 is more of an all rounder than a race foil, great glide, carve, bottom end and very slippery. R5 was very fast, stable and turned well but I'd give the Chubanga V3 the edge. Didn't get chance to really push them but R5 and V3 both sat very comfortably on 24-25 knots.
Thanks. The R5 seems well behaved. Which I presumed it would be. Did you do over 30 kts on any of them, and remember anything interesting in their beahviour? Such as pitch stability variation with speed change. Have you ridden the R5-S? Perhaps R0d was thinking about difficulty avoiding stalling, when he wrote that the "R5-S is extremely technical to rij
Just remember it being as easy to ride as my old Cabrinha H550. I don't race but like push speed when I get the chance, only got it to 25 knots but was underpowered on a 3.5m. Our local is a bit choppy so hard to get clean runs, I'm sure its capable of 30 knots in the right hands and powered up.
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I've tried the ML700, R5 and Chubanga V3. All surprisingly easy to wing on. ML700 is more of an all rounder than a race foil, great glide, carve, bottom end and very slippery. R5 was very fast, stable and turned well but I'd give the Chubanga V3 the edge. Didn't get chance to really push them but R5 and V3 both sat very comfortably on 24-25 knots.
A better comparison would be the ML540. I would choose the ML700 only in really light wind racing.
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I've tried the ML700, R5 and Chubanga V3. All surprisingly easy to wing on. ML700 is more of an all rounder than a race foil, great glide, carve, bottom end and very slippery. R5 was very fast, stable and turned well but I'd give the Chubanga V3 the edge. Didn't get chance to really push them but R5 and V3 both sat very comfortably on 24-25 knots.
A better comparison would be the ML540. I would choose the ML700 only in really light wind racing.
