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Slingshot Javelin - New Wing with full bar handle

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Created by SquintEastwood > 9 months ago, 6 Sep 2022
SquintEastwood
23 posts
6 Sep 2022 12:22AM
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Seeing lots of pictures of this but without any explanations or reviews. Stoked to see some competition for Duotone.






JohnnyTsunami
132 posts
6 Sep 2022 2:01AM
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They're about to have a whole lot of hard handle and boom competition (cabrinha, north, takuma, ozone, slingshot, gofoil).
As a duotone fanboy I rode a soft handled wing for the first time the other day. yuck.

Ako78
3 posts
6 Sep 2022 3:29AM
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Don't forget the Eleveight WFS wing, has a pretty nice boom.

CoreAS
916 posts
6 Sep 2022 8:44AM
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JohnnyTsunami said..
They're about to have a whole lot of hard handle and boom competition (cabrinha, north, takuma, ozone, slingshot, gofoil).
As a duotone fanboy I rode a soft handled wing for the first time the other day. yuck.


For 2023 Slingshot will have a preference for everyone
boom, hard handle and soft handle.
I understand those that don't like floppy handles your a little soft wristed.





dejavu
825 posts
6 Sep 2022 9:00AM
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The boom on the Slingshot wing looks really long (especially for packing up) -- anyone have any idea if it's a two piece boom?

JohnnyTsunami
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6 Sep 2022 10:24AM
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CoreAS said..

JohnnyTsunami said..
They're about to have a whole lot of hard handle and boom competition (cabrinha, north, takuma, ozone, slingshot, gofoil).
As a duotone fanboy I rode a soft handled wing for the first time the other day. yuck.



For 2023 Slingshot will have a preference for everyone
boom, hard handle and soft handle.
I understand those that don't like floppy handles your a little soft wristed.






Ouch, hahaha

CoreAS
916 posts
6 Sep 2022 10:50AM
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JohnnyTsunami said..

CoreAS said..


JohnnyTsunami said..
They're about to have a whole lot of hard handle and boom competition (cabrinha, north, takuma, ozone, slingshot, gofoil).
As a duotone fanboy I rode a soft handled wing for the first time the other day. yuck.




For 2023 Slingshot will have a preference for everyone
boom, hard handle and soft handle.
I understand those that don't like floppy handles your a little soft wristed.






Ouch, hahaha


haha

dejavu as far as I know it's one piece adjustable carbon boom.

sunsetsailboards
499 posts
6 Sep 2022 1:40PM
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the proto I rode was one piece bolted to the strut, but that was also 9 months ago. should see a production version in the flesh tomorrow or Wednesday

FoilWays
164 posts
7 Sep 2022 11:19AM
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I've been seeing photos of them and even asked SS, but they won't say anything. It's obvious they been teasing and should doing a full release for AWSI this week.

sunsetsailboards
499 posts
8 Sep 2022 12:31AM
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Boom looks fixed. New hard handles on the sling wings look very nice.

dejavu
825 posts
8 Sep 2022 2:11AM
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sunsetsailboards: "Boom looks fixed. New hard handles on the sling wings look very nice."

If the boom is fixed then the wing must be rolled up like a windsurf sail and put into a long bag - No? Or, maybe the boom is easily removed and carried separately?

From the pictures I've seen it looks like there is some sort of strap from the middle strut that goes around the boom at about half length.

CoreAS
916 posts
8 Sep 2022 3:50AM
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sunsetsailboards: "Boom looks fixed. New hard handles on the sling wings look very nice."

If the boom is fixed then the wing must be rolled up like a windsurf sail and put into a long bag - No? Or, maybe the boom is easily removed and carried separately?

From the pictures I've seen it looks like there is some sort of strap from the middle strut that goes around the boom at about half length.


You will have a choice between 3 different wings

1. Javelin has the detachable boom, the strap is called on the fly power trim (much like an adjustable outhaul)
2. Slingwing V3 HH has the solid double handles
3. Slingwing V3 has the fabric handles

foilthegreats
658 posts
8 Sep 2022 8:07PM
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Windoc
418 posts
9 Sep 2022 1:50AM
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Spotted this rider in the Gorge in June. Seemed like it was working for him .




burchas
338 posts
9 Sep 2022 8:55PM
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In comparisons to the DuoTones the Javelin has shallow profile and feel lighter and more balanced.
Not as grunty but much easier to pump. The boom has a narrower diameter which I prefer and will work better with gloves on long sessions. Hope to fly it today

dejavu
825 posts
9 Sep 2022 10:25PM
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burchas said..
In comparisons to the DuoTones the Javelin has shallow profile and feel lighter and more balanced.
Not as grunty but much easier to pump. The boom has a narrower diameter which I prefer and will work better with gloves on long sessions. Hope to fly it today


Yes, but...

What do you do with the boom to pack it up -- it looks to be nearly twice as long as the Duotone boom and therefore probably weighs more than the Duotone carbon one. Is it two piece or adjustable or what? Duotone supposedly has a new carbon boom coming with a smaller diameter. Anyway, from my perspective it is good news that other companies are offering alternatives to soft handles. Good work by Slingshot!

FoilWays
164 posts
10 Sep 2022 12:03AM
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CoreAS said..

dejavu said..
sunsetsailboards: "Boom looks fixed. New hard handles on the sling wings look very nice."

If the boom is fixed then the wing must be rolled up like a windsurf sail and put into a long bag - No? Or, maybe the boom is easily removed and carried separately?

From the pictures I've seen it looks like there is some sort of strap from the middle strut that goes around the boom at about half length.



You will have a choice between 3 different wings

1. Javelin has the detachable boom, the strap is called on the fly power trim (much like an adjustable outhaul)
2. Slingwing V3 HH has the solid double handles
3. Slingwing V3 has the fabric handles


The adjustable trim is super smart!

burchas
338 posts
10 Sep 2022 3:45PM
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burchas said..
In comparisons to the DuoTones the Javelin has shallow profile and feel lighter and more balanced.
Not as grunty but much easier to pump. The boom has a narrower diameter which I prefer and will work better with gloves on long sessions. Hope to fly it today




Yes, but...

What do you do with the boom to pack it up -- it looks to be nearly twice as long as the Duotone boom and therefore probably weighs more than the Duotone carbon one. Is it two piece or adjustable or what? Duotone supposedly has a new carbon boom coming with a smaller diameter. Anyway, from my perspective it is good news that other companies are offering alternatives to soft handles. Good work by Slingshot!




1.5 hours session on the Javelin today. New Board (Wing Craft V2) new foil (Phantasm 930) so I decided to go a little bigger than what
I would do on my regular setup. I had Javelin 4 and 4.5 I rigged the 4.5. The boom was two piece, the shorter fits the 4M with the extension
it fits the 4.5M.

It's all spring clip system, including how it mounts on the wing which is super fast and convenient.

Wind was 20-30knots with holes. This is the first time I actually had some fun with a boom wing. This wing was pretty good handling the
strong gusts. It gives you enough warning it wants to backwind on you if you push it hard upwind. Pumping it, as I thought, was easier than
the grunty duotones.

The inflation valve is way better the annoying Duetone and does not require any adapter whatsoever, much like the Ocean Rodeo, it just
uses the same bare bone hose everyone else in the industry uses.

The dump valve on the strut is also better constructed than the duotone with 2 quick and convenient velcro system rather than the clunky
3 velcro system which most people I know, don't bother to open. It's also better than the 2 velcro system on the F-one.

The hose that connect the leading edge bladder to the strut bladder has the same clamp like the duotone to separate the two in case
of a failure.

The leash that comes with the wing is pretty good as well so you don't have to buy a leash like in duotones case.

In flight, the wing feels light and getting use to transition with a boom was quick as the wing doesn't drop when you loose apparent wind.
If you like the grunty lock-in feel of the duetone this is not a wing for you but if you're coming from floppy handles and want a boom wing
to help you practice transitions this wing would be a better choice than the duotone imo.

I'm still not sold on the boom concept but with this wing I got more warmed up towards this style.

Hour and a half is certainly not enough for a good review but first impressions is usually a good tell if this is a wing you'll want to hang on to











dejavu
825 posts
10 Sep 2022 10:38PM
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burchas -- Could you please comment on the Wing Craft V2 and the 930 Phantasm?

Also, does the boom you used work with wings larger than 4.5 or do you constantly have to add longer extensions as you move to larger wings?

burchas
338 posts
11 Sep 2022 11:28AM
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burchas -- Could you please comment on the Wing Craft V2 and the 930 Phantasm?

Also, does the boom you used work with wings larger than 4.5 or do you constantly have to add longer extensions as you move to larger wings?


I had the Wing Craft V2 4'9 x 25.5 x 80L. Very stable, easy knee start at -10L board. Fast get up and go board
with immediate acceleration, great touch down recovery. Couldn't find good comfortable trim after two mast adjustments and two different wings (Phantasm 930 and 800). Very comfortable deck.

Phantasm 930 has very similar feel to the 926 just little faster and has more glide. Works really well with the 325 stab. very nimble and easy to turn. 950sqcm.

As for the Javelin boom, I'm not familiar with the line-up so I can't comment, I just grabbed those 2 wings
and went off-site to try, never talked to any of the staff about it.




Rewind
NSW, 87 posts
11 Sep 2022 10:53PM
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burchas said..

dejavu said..
burchas -- Could you please comment on the Wing Craft V2 and the 930 Phantasm?

Also, does the boom you used work with wings larger than 4.5 or do you constantly have to add longer extensions as you move to larger wings?



I had the Wing Craft V2 4'9 x 25.5 x 80L. Very stable, easy knee start at -10L board. Fast get up and go board
with immediate acceleration, great touch down recovery. Couldn't find good comfortable trim after two mast adjustments and two different wings (Phantasm 930 and 800). Very comfortable deck.

Phantasm 930 has very similar feel to the 926 just little faster and has more glide. Works really well with the 325 stab. very nimble and easy to turn. 950sqcm.

As for the Javelin boom, I'm not familiar with the line-up so I can't comment, I just grabbed those 2 wings
and went off-site to try, never talked to any of the staff about it.





PTM 930 .?

I didn't even know this foil existed as it's not on the Slingshot site!

ulx
53 posts
11 Sep 2022 9:27PM
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PTM 930 .?

I didn't even know this foil existed as it's not on the Slingshot site!



Trade show 2023. Preview ... ;-)

CoreAS
916 posts
12 Sep 2022 2:43AM
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Nice review Burchas, great stuff.

the 80L is the board I have been testing and as you said for the size is performs very nicely. It hasn't been very windy where I am so to get in up and flying in 12-13 mph is awesome (I'm 200 lbs) and I'm looking forward to a testing it on a good 20+ day.
I have the 5.0 with windows and 4.0 javelin but just waiting for the boom (and wind)
good job testing the 930 (there is an 825 as well) so many cool additions coming from slingshot with boards, wings and foils and so plenty of testing to do

DWF
649 posts
12 Sep 2022 3:48AM
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The old Echo had the pull to flatten the profile trick. Performing the same trick as the SS pull strap. To activate it on the Echo, you simply wrapped your hand over the blue plastic tube and pulled it down, clamping it against the boom.

I used it a few times, then never bothered again. It works a bit, but wasn't a game changer, and not worth messing with.

Dcharlton
315 posts
12 Sep 2022 6:35AM
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dejavu said..

burchas said..
In comparisons to the DuoTones the Javelin has shallow profile and feel lighter and more balanced.
Not as grunty but much easier to pump. The boom has a narrower diameter which I prefer and will work better with gloves on long sessions. Hope to fly it today



Yes, but...

What do you do with the boom to pack it up -- it looks to be nearly twice as long as the Duotone boom and therefore probably weighs more than the Duotone carbon one. Is it two piece or adjustable or what? Duotone supposedly has a new carbon boom coming with a smaller diameter. Anyway, from my perspective it is good news that other companies are offering alternatives to soft handles. Good work by Slingshot!


Dejavu, I'm looking all over online for the new Duotone smaller diameter boom and can't find it anywhere. Any links you could post? I'm dying to get my hands on one before I have to break out the gloves. I'm loving the boom but am getting concerned it's going to be tough with gloves, maybe I can use a harness line to help.

DC

dejavu
825 posts
12 Sep 2022 7:21AM
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Burchas -- thanks for the information about the new SS board, wing and foil.

Dcharlton -- currently the SLS is offered with either the aluminium or carbon (same as last year) boom. Apparently there is a new SLS carbon boom with a smaller diameter. No idea when it will be available.

The new SLS boom is mentioned (at the 1:06 minute mark) in this Slick SLS review (sorry for the off topic stuff):

CoreAS
916 posts
13 Sep 2022 7:38PM
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More javelin boom, HH handles, wingcraft and foil info here.

dejavu
825 posts
14 Sep 2022 10:46PM
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CoreAS
916 posts
16 Sep 2022 1:00AM
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Javelins and carbon boom arrived
5.0 with windows and 4.0 without, the build quality looks exceptional (Riders that are heavier will appreciate it).

boom comes in 2 parts 4.5 sizes and below just use the one piece. 5.0 and larger you just click on the boom extension.

5.0 feels pretty stiff and the 4.0 as light as wing with hard handles.

I just need some decent wind to give a full test.










ulx
53 posts
8 Oct 2022 5:27PM
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I tried the Javelin with trimstrap pulled quite a bit. Didn't like it. Than luckily I tried it two times with the trimstrap only as tight that it didn't flop around. Totally different wing at least in light winds. Like that it is really great and I decided to go with Javelins as my new Wings. So, be aware of pulling the strap as long as you don't need it to help with overpower.



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