Whats the deal for kiting there.
I was told by a calm ranger some three years or so ago that the Nature reserve, sort of East from where the fence starts is off limits for kiting. (parallel to the dog exercise area)
Is this true as of late it seems to be becoming more popular..
I would say, it is fine to kite there, as long as you dont launch or land on the beach.
i.e. the water is fine, the land is not.
My understanding is that launching from the small dog beach at the Pt Walter end of the Nature Reserve fence is OK. Rigging on the big grass area and crossing the Nature reserve to get to the water will draw the wrath of the rangers...
Good Luck
Yeah it’s kinda crazy, the area to the east is a nesting ground for Siberian magpie geese ( I think ), apparently they scare easily . So only dogs can have fun in this area? Go figure, most likely the reason for the reserve is to stop more development that may spoil the view of existing local residents.
I'm a foreigner (live in Qld now) though grew up a few hundred metres back from the now grassed area on the foreshore adjoining Burke Drive. I kited there a few weeks ago in a NW and had a blast. Nice grass to launch and land on with just the short walk across the beach and over the short fence to/from the water.
A couple of days later I was tuning a big foil in a light NE breeze. Someone, I think his name was Paul, was strongly, and somewhat less politely than I thought reasonable, discouraging kiting there - because of some (not formalised) agreement b/w Melville Council and WAKSA. He said there was info on the WAKSA site about it...I couldn't find anything there.
I'm pretty sure no magpie geese go as far south as Perth. But there are plenty of migratory waders, about 4 species, who go to Siberia for our winter but spend quite a few months (I think from about September to May) in the Swan River estuary, mostly from Attadale around to Alfred Cove. I think it would be reasonable to leave the little waders in peace over the summer and go the km or so west to the sandy dog beach. It would also be better to kite there than go back to the birds' area, even if you stayed away from the foreshore itself.
As to the official position, I think someone from WAKSA should clarify.
And, BTW, my understanding is that the short fence is intended to keep dogs away from the foreshore and birds - that seems to work well. So the dogs are happy on the grass and the birds are safe on the other side of the fence.
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Originally posted by Audion
My understanding is that launching from the small dog beach at the Pt Walter end of the Nature Reserve fence is OK. Rigging on the big grass area and crossing the Nature reserve to get to the water will draw the wrath of the rangers...
Good Luck
your good as long as u launch and land west of the end of the fence. ie. where stock road ends. and stay a minimum of 50m from the shore (out of the nature reserve bits).
www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=5758
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apparently there has been an amendment to the above. But i cant access it because calm are f**cken retarded and spend all there money servicing the needs of decrepit 75yr old bird watchers then the greater public. WEBSITE IS ****ING S**T!!!!!!. If it was clear wat was allowed and what isnt it would prolly make the biggest difference to conservation.
a bit of a skim through the calm management plan seems to indicate that the use of the areas (peli and aflred cove) for recreational boating including specifically windsurfing/sailing is a value that the plan is attempting to maintain.
I think the location map that is displayed at Peli Point showing where to kite is an excellent idea and it will help keep kiting acceptable on the river.
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Originally posted by Slack
I think the location map that is displayed at Peli Point showing where to kite is an excellent idea and it will help keep kiting acceptable on the river.
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Originally posted by carbine
your good as long as u launch and land west of the end of the fence. ie. where stock road ends. and stay a minimum of 50m from the shore (out of the nature reserve bits).
www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=5758
avantagebet.com/
Definitely a non kiting and launching area in the Nature Reserve east of fence approx. at Page st (check the streetsmart). This area has a history of residents, friends of Attadale forshore group and dog users all feuding over this space.
This area is looked after by a group called “The friends of Attadale Foreshore and they continually maintain and plant seedlings. Quoted in recent article of the Melville news of having planted 25,000 to 30,000 seedlings in this area and they also receive funding from Swan River Trust. I have seen kiters launch on the lawn dog exercise area which is risky as lots of dogs, kids and public to watch out for. If you launch there then it means you have to step over the fence and through the reserve to get to the water, this is not permitted. Common sense tells you the fence is there for a reason. This area is out of bounds to dogs also which is why the fence was put up in the first place, they were destroying the bushland and endangering wild life. Imagine what a bunch of kiters will do it.
If you want to kite the Easterlies in this area you must stay West of the fence area to launch and kite (Page str). Once you are in the water you could venture a short distance East but remember if you drop your kite and need to come in then you will be in this restricted area. This area is also permitted as a dog beach area. There is not a lot of beach space for kites so it can only cater for a few kites. Better to go to the Pt Walter spit area.
I think WAKSA/me should contact Melville Council and be proactive in sorting some signs out for this area before we get totally banned.
Sue
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Originally posted by poor relative
Whats the deal for kiting there.
I was told by a calm ranger some three years or so ago that the Nature reserve, sort of East from where the fence starts is off limits for kiting. (parallel to the dog exercise area)
Is this true as of late it seems to be becoming more popular..
Why would you even consider lanching in a dog park and then climb over a fence..............crap for brains and no respect.
Its happening gruzitski.
Most days there is a north West there is a kiter out.
Rigging launching and landing in doggie heaven
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Originally posted by sue
If you launch there then it means you have to step over the fence and through the reserve to get to the water, this is not permitted. Common sense tells you the fence is there for a reason.
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Originally posted by gruezi
Why would you even consider lanching in a dog park and then climb over a fence..............crap for brains and no respect.
This topic was discussed at last Wed's WAKSA meeting. A stategy involving all the interested parties has been put in place which should bring about a mutually acceptable policy re this area.
With two premium kite beaches at each end of this CALM management area - each with their own 'sensitive' issues - we believe we must get this area right.
A site guide with all the answers will be posted on the WAKSA website shortly.
In the meantime WAKSA strongly advises that all kiters avoid this area altogether to give us some negotiating time without the risk of creating any ill-will - esp with the local 'friends of Attadale foreshore' group.
