Maybe we should try to turn the tables here ?
Take that big fish into big fish tank.
Put tank on main street in Perth so shark could make as many eye contact with passing crowd as want.
Maybe even allow kids to feed them with lollies and small fishes and crabs, ( maybe even small cats and dogs wondering the streets lonely) .
Then after month or a year release the bastard back to the ocean and check if is still hungry on people ?
Select to expand quotejbshack said..ThinkaBowtit said..
Again, we're talking about sharks that don't give you the opportunity to read their body language and react accordingly. Whites are missing from your "different class of animal" list.
You won't believe it but they can be rather easy to read. No not in a attack mode, but swimming around they are rather open book. How do you think people have been able to swim along side them 
Stark temperaments and body language is rather interesting once you understand it.. 
Yeah, all you shark culling hypocrites!!
It's so easy to read shark body language and demeanor when you don't see them coming.
Jb so what is the real world solution?
Put in the school mandatory grade curriculum so kids learn how to read sharko body language from an early age?
It is a challenge big enough to teach how to read a simple paper book! Or to swim properly.
Kids these days engage and date via the internet, even the opposite sex body language signals (or same whatever) it seems even that today can't be figured out soo easily as it used to be! 
Select to expand quotebusterwa said..
Well let the shark attacks continue dumb bunch of ****en beaners
I bet you think rape is a good thing 
I don't think that's the point mate. The powers that be say we personally can't kill great whites to keep the dangerous ones in check cos they think they might be endangered ( despite the growing doubt this is indeed the case - don't forget when they were put on the endangered list it was a benefit of the doubt call) So if we can't do it via fishing like we used to then it's up to the government to do it.
Not crying to the nanny state just saying if I can't do it then governments first responsibility is to keep its taxpayers safe.
As for the reading the sharks crap while I'm paddling on the surface on my board well that just shows how far from reality some peanuts are.
Select to expand quoteDARTH said..busterwa said..
Well let the shark attacks continue dumb bunch of ****en beaners
I bet you think rape is a good thing
You lost the capacity for meaningful argument a long time ago, but congratulations, that was a new low for you.
Death unfortunately is a natural part of life, why are we always trying to stop everyone from dying? Is the population not large enough? Why do we want everyone to live forever! I know it is a natural survival instinct but aren't we smart enough to analyse the future implications?
I see most people who are for the drumlines and cull are just too scared to go into the water now and grossly uneducated about the environmental systems and the implications of making decisions on a finite 'thing' (GWS) and the effects of changing food webs.
You get an engineer and an architect to create a well designed house (people in the know) you don't get Joe Blow no idea to design it. Let the professionals EPA and other environmental managers do there job. If you are to scared to go in the ocean then stay out.
"Everyone should have no fear into going into the ocean, plus I want uncrowded breaks! Lets just make more surf spots with artificial reef all along the coast and impact longshore drift. Hooray for the human race! Sick sad world."
Select to expand quotekiterboy said..DARTH said..busterwa said..
Well let the shark attacks continue dumb bunch of ****en beaners
I bet you think rape is a good thing
You lost the capacity for meaningful argument a long time ago, but congratulations, that was a new low for you.
Only when there is a thread like this you turn up, troll........
Select to expand quoteGustenzo said..
Death unfortunately is a natural part of life, why are we always trying to stop everyone from dying? Is the population not large enough? Why do we want everyone to live forever! I know it is a natural survival instinct but aren't we smart enough to analyse the future implications?
I see most people who are for the drumlines and cull are just too scared to go into the water now and grossly uneducated about the environmental systems and the implications of making decisions on a finite 'thing' (GWS) and the effects of changing food webs.
You get an engineer and an architect to create a well designed house (people in the know) you don't get Joe Blow no idea to design it. Let the professionals EPA and other environmental managers do there job. If you are to scared to go in the ocean then stay out.
"Everyone should have no fear into going into the ocean, plus I want uncrowded breaks! Lets just make more surf spots with artificial reef all along the coast and impact longshore drift. Hooray for the human race! Sick sad world."
Yes, bang on.
Select to expand quoteDARTH said..kiterboy said..DARTH said..busterwa said..
Well let the shark attacks continue dumb bunch of ****en beaners
I bet you think rape is a good thing
You lost the capacity for meaningful argument a long time ago, but congratulations, that was a new low for you.
Only when there is a thread like this you turn up, troll........
Aww, it's sweet to know you miss me so.
Select to expand quoteGustenzo said..
Death unfortunately is a natural part of life, why are we always trying to stop everyone from dying? Is the population not large enough? Why do we want everyone to live forever! I know it is a natural survival instinct but aren't we smart enough to analyse the future implications?
I see most people who are for the drumlines and cull are just too scared to go into the water now and grossly uneducated about the environmental systems and the implications of making decisions on a finite 'thing' (GWS) and the effects of changing food webs.
You get an engineer and an architect to create a well designed house (people in the know) you don't get Joe Blow no idea to design it. Let the professionals EPA and other environmental managers do there job. If you are to scared to go in the ocean then stay out.
"Everyone should have no fear into going into the ocean, plus I want uncrowded breaks! Lets just make more surf spots with artificial reef all along the coast and impact longshore drift. Hooray for the human race! Sick sad world."
Dream on, buddy.
The anti-cullers are the ones too scared to go in the ocean.
And what are the EPA and such doing about the situation?
So, all the armchair environmentalists, AKA Anti-cullers....tell us this:
What were the drastic environmental/ecological disasters we faced 10-20 years ago that were a direct result of the low numbers of GW, that you are saying will happen now if today's numbers are reverted back to what they were?
Select to expand quotekiterboy said..Gustenzo said..
Death unfortunately is a natural part of life, why are we always trying to stop everyone from dying? Is the population not large enough? Why do we want everyone to live forever! I know it is a natural survival instinct but aren't we smart enough to analyse the future implications?
I see most people who are for the drumlines and cull are just too scared to go into the water now and grossly uneducated about the environmental systems and the implications of making decisions on a finite 'thing' (GWS) and the effects of changing food webs.
You get an engineer and an architect to create a well designed house (people in the know) you don't get Joe Blow no idea to design it. Let the professionals EPA and other environmental managers do there job. If you are to scared to go in the ocean then stay out.
"Everyone should have no fear into going into the ocean, plus I want uncrowded breaks! Lets just make more surf spots with artificial reef all along the coast and impact longshore drift. Hooray for the human race! Sick sad world."
Dream on, buddy.
The anti-cullers are the ones too scared to go in the ocean.
And what are the EPA and such doing about the situation?
Dream on......
Or is it that you just want to kill for the sake of killing, like busterwa.
Or is it that you don't care because you will be dead by the time the environment is f@#ked.
I bet you dont have kids.....
The EPA recommended against the proposal of drumlins (2014).
The numbers of GWS 10-20 years ago was and I doubt the number now is KNOWN. Surveying and samples are just snapshots at that time over over a certain time period. More information is needed to make the correct choice. Please check out the precautionary principal. If the shark abundance is deemed too high and some sort of cull is found to be necessary then I trust the professionals will have made their choice on sound science with good reasoning behind it. Check out the precautionary principal.
Educate yourself and look up: keystone species, apex predators, mesopredators, higher order effects.
Select to expand quoteGustenzo said..
The EPA recommended against the proposal of drumlins (2014).
The numbers of GWS 10-20 years ago was and I doubt the number now is KNOWN. Surveying and samples are just snapshots at that time over over a certain time period. More information is needed to make the correct choice. Please check out the precautionary principal. If the shark abundance is deemed too high and some sort of cull is found to be necessary then I trust the professionals will have made their choice on sound science with good reasoning behind it. Check out the precautionary principal.
Educate yourself and look up: keystone species, apex predators, mesopredators, higher order effects.
Ah, so your answer is, apart from recommending against drumlines, the EPA and such are doing, nothing.
That should help.
LOL. 'Educate yourself'. Thanks, dad.
Select to expand quoteGustenzo said..
The EPA recommended against the proposal of drumlins (2014).
The numbers of GWS 10-20 years ago was and I doubt the number now is KNOWN. Surveying and samples are just snapshots at that time over over a certain time period. More information is needed to make the correct choice. Please check out the precautionary principal. If the shark abundance is deemed too high and some sort of cull is found to be necessary then I trust the professionals will have made their choice on sound science with good reasoning behind it. Check out the precautionary principal.
Educate yourself and look up: keystone species, apex predators, mesopredators, higher order effects.
So basically your proposal is do nothing, let more people get chomped. Then after finding out there are too many sharks, lets cull them.
How different is your proposal to what we are basically saying here? The only difference is that you huggers think we didn't had as many deaths to trigger this mechanism.
How many more deaths do you (or other shark huggers) think are necessary to come up with the obvious that is already in place?
Select to expand quoteDARTH said..kiterboy said..Gustenzo said..
Death unfortunately is a natural part of life, why are we always trying to stop everyone from dying? Is the population not large enough? Why do we want everyone to live forever! I know it is a natural survival instinct but aren't we smart enough to analyse the future implications?
I see most people who are for the drumlines and cull are just too scared to go into the water now and grossly uneducated about the environmental systems and the implications of making decisions on a finite 'thing' (GWS) and the effects of changing food webs.
You get an engineer and an architect to create a well designed house (people in the know) you don't get Joe Blow no idea to design it. Let the professionals EPA and other environmental managers do there job. If you are to scared to go in the ocean then stay out.
"Everyone should have no fear into going into the ocean, plus I want uncrowded breaks! Lets just make more surf spots with artificial reef all along the coast and impact longshore drift. Hooray for the human race! Sick sad world."
Dream on, buddy.
The anti-cullers are the ones too scared to go in the ocean.
And what are the EPA and such doing about the situation?
Dream on......
Or is it that you just want to kill for the sake of killing, like busterwa.
Or is it that you don't care because you will be dead by the time the environment is f@#ked.
I bet you dont have kids.....
Well, you're making progress, kind of. Out of four sentences, you made a barely legible statement, so let's explore that shall we.
"Or is it that you don't care because you will be dead by the time the environment is f@#ked."
That statement shows that you know something the rest of us don't.
So with your superior knowledge, do you think you can answer the question I posed earlier?
What were the drastic environmental/ecological disasters we faced 10-20 years ago that were a direct result of the low numbers of GW, that you are saying will happen now if today's numbers are reverted back to what they were?
Please darthoggie, save us from our ignorance.
What a relief, we are not at worst place, most likely to be eaten alive.
Now Florida leads !
edition.cnn.com/travel/article/tips-to-avoid-shark-attacks-trnd/index.html
BTW , those happy Yankee tips remind me those from nuclear era.To avoid atomic blast , hide under the table and close your eyes.
Both must be super efficient in critical situations.
Duck and cover drill at school.
Select to expand quotekiterboy said...DARTH said..kiterboy said..Gustenzo said..
Death unfortunately is a natural part of life, why are we always trying to stop everyone from dying? Is the population not large enough? Why do we want everyone to live forever! I know it is a natural survival instinct but aren't we smart enough to analyse the future implications?
I see most people who are for the drumlines and cull are just too scared to go into the water now and grossly uneducated about the environmental systems and the implications of making decisions on a finite 'thing' (GWS) and the effects of changing food webs.
You get an engineer and an architect to create a well designed house (people in the know) you don't get Joe Blow no idea to design it. Let the professionals EPA and other environmental managers do there job. If you are to scared to go in the ocean then stay out.
"Everyone should have no fear into going into the ocean, plus I want uncrowded breaks! Lets just make more surf spots with artificial reef all along the coast and impact longshore drift. Hooray for the human race! Sick sad world."
Dream on, buddy.
The anti-cullers are the ones too scared to go in the ocean.
And what are the EPA and such doing about the situation?
Dream on......
Or is it that you just want to kill for the sake of killing, like busterwa.
Or is it that you don't care because you will be dead by the time the environment is f@#ked.
I bet you dont have kids.....
Well, you're making progress, kind of. Out of four sentences, you made a barely legible statement, so let's explore that shall we.
"Or is it that you don't care because you will be dead by the time the environment is f@#ked."
That statement shows that you know something the rest of us don't.
So with your superior knowledge, do you think you can answer the question I posed earlier?
What were the drastic environmental/ecological disasters we faced 10-20 years ago that were a direct result of the low numbers of GW, that you are saying will happen now if today's numbers are reverted back to what they were?
Please darthoggie, save us from our ignorance.
Do you have kids? If you don't understand it's too late for you.
I never tough about this before ?!
Indeed when you are windsurfer or kiter preparing your gear on the grass patch watch on those crazy cows.
They are so territorial animals that will kill you in not time, while protecting their grass .
Think about that next time.
Crazy cow will smack you in the face with her tits with the force 655 x times stronger that is crunching jaw force of the biggest shark 
But there is always explanation and excuse. You are invader , in their green territory.
You could only blame yourself next time.
Beside I heard that cows are sacred too and under strict protection ( at least somewhere) .
Select to expand quotekiterboy said...DARTH said..kiterboy said..Gustenzo said..
Death unfortunately is a natural part of life, why are we always trying to stop everyone from dying? Is the population not large enough? Why do we want everyone to live forever! I know it is a natural survival instinct but aren't we smart enough to analyse the future implications?
I see most people who are for the drumlines and cull are just too scared to go into the water now and grossly uneducated about the environmental systems and the implications of making decisions on a finite 'thing' (GWS) and the effects of changing food webs.
You get an engineer and an architect to create a well designed house (people in the know) you don't get Joe Blow no idea to design it. Let the professionals EPA and other environmental managers do there job. If you are to scared to go in the ocean then stay out.
"Everyone should have no fear into going into the ocean, plus I want uncrowded breaks! Lets just make more surf spots with artificial reef all along the coast and impact longshore drift. Hooray for the human race! Sick sad world."
Dream on, buddy.
The anti-cullers are the ones too scared to go in the ocean.
And what are the EPA and such doing about the situation?
Dream on......
Or is it that you just want to kill for the sake of killing, like busterwa.
Or is it that you don't care because you will be dead by the time the environment is f@#ked.
I bet you dont have kids.....
Well, you're making progress, kind of. Out of four sentences, you made a barely legible statement, so let's explore that shall we.
"Or is it that you don't care because you will be dead by the time the environment is f@#ked."
That statement shows that you know something the rest of us don't.
So with your superior knowledge, do you think you can answer the question I posed earlier?
What were the drastic environmental/ecological disasters we faced 10-20 years ago that were a direct result of the low numbers of GW, that you are saying will happen now if today's numbers are reverted back to what they were?
Please darthoggie, save us from our ignorance.
Go read The Unnatural History of the Sea
Select to expand quotebusterwa said...
Well you can become an English teaher at 60 grand a year And ill change your tap seal for 120k.
I am. 120k a year. Head of Department. Need some tutoring?
Select to expand quotebusterwa said...
Well you can become an English teaher at 60 grand a year And ill change your tap seal for 120k.
Btw, I reseated my bathroom taps last year. It isn't that hard. Think the tool was $6 from Bunnings.
No idea what that is, but I know the house is almost fifty years old. So not much head but age?
hope you get attacked then. Its a no brainer?Hopefully its going to be open to commercial fisherman. About time. 
Select to expand quoteDARTH said..kiterboy said...DARTH said..kiterboy said..Gustenzo said..
Death unfortunately is a natural part of life, why are we always trying to stop everyone from dying? Is the population not large enough? Why do we want everyone to live forever! I know it is a natural survival instinct but aren't we smart enough to analyse the future implications?
I see most people who are for the drumlines and cull are just too scared to go into the water now and grossly uneducated about the environmental systems and the implications of making decisions on a finite 'thing' (GWS) and the effects of changing food webs.
You get an engineer and an architect to create a well designed house (people in the know) you don't get Joe Blow no idea to design it. Let the professionals EPA and other environmental managers do there job. If you are to scared to go in the ocean then stay out.
"Everyone should have no fear into going into the ocean, plus I want uncrowded breaks! Lets just make more surf spots with artificial reef all along the coast and impact longshore drift. Hooray for the human race! Sick sad world."
Dream on, buddy.
The anti-cullers are the ones too scared to go in the ocean.
And what are the EPA and such doing about the situation?
Dream on......
Or is it that you just want to kill for the sake of killing, like busterwa.
Or is it that you don't care because you will be dead by the time the environment is f@#ked.
I bet you dont have kids.....
Well, you're making progress, kind of. Out of four sentences, you made a barely legible statement, so let's explore that shall we.
"Or is it that you don't care because you will be dead by the time the environment is f@#ked."
That statement shows that you know something the rest of us don't.
So with your superior knowledge, do you think you can answer the question I posed earlier?
What were the drastic environmental/ecological disasters we faced 10-20 years ago that were a direct result of the low numbers of GW, that you are saying will happen now if today's numbers are reverted back to what they were?
Please darthoggie, save us from our ignorance.
Do you have kids? If you don't understand it's too late for you.
Can't answer te question? All bluster, no substance.
I hope you don't have kids, they certainly won't learn how to present their points of views from you.
Select to expand quotethedrip said..kiterboy said...
Well, you're making progress, kind of. Out of four sentences, you made a barely legible statement, so let's explore that shall we.
"Or is it that you don't care because you will be dead by the time the environment is f@#ked."
That statement shows that you know something the rest of us don't.
So with your superior knowledge, do you think you can answer the question I posed earlier?
What were the drastic environmental/ecological disasters we faced 10-20 years ago that were a direct result of the low numbers of GW, that you are saying will happen now if today's numbers are reverted back to what they were?
Please darthoggie, save us from our ignorance.
Go read The Unnatural History of the Sea
Give us a brief summary.
Use your intellectual skillz to enlighten us lowbrow folk, instead of just hoping one person takes up your reading list recommendation.
Select to expand quotekiterboy said...Gustenzo said..
Death unfortunately is a natural part of life, why are we always trying to stop everyone from dying? Is the population not large enough? Why do we want everyone to live forever! I know it is a natural survival instinct but aren't we smart enough to analyse the future implications?
I see most people who are for the drumlines and cull are just too scared to go into the water now and grossly uneducated about the environmental systems and the implications of making decisions on a finite 'thing' (GWS) and the effects of changing food webs.
You get an engineer and an architect to create a well designed house (people in the know) you don't get Joe Blow no idea to design it. Let the professionals EPA and other environmental managers do there job. If you are to scared to go in the ocean then stay out.
"Everyone should have no fear into going into the ocean, plus I want uncrowded breaks! Lets just make more surf spots with artificial reef all along the coast and impact longshore drift. Hooray for the human race! Sick sad world."
Dream on, buddy.
The anti-cullers are the ones too scared to go in the ocean.
And what are the EPA and such doing about the situation?
I spend time on, in and under the ocean
And I'm not keen on a shark cull, I am conciouse though of the threat,
Same as when I get on a roof, go riding my bike , riding my quad,
My eldest brother used to race bikes all over the uk, he's got pins , lost his left leg below the knee, multiple scars , broken bones , usually the 1st thing he'd ask was how's me bike, he'd rebuild and tune something that would kill him,
Maybe class watersports as an extreme sport
And accept the risks, I do
