Giulia Quadrifolio takes out the BMW M3 Competition package.
When the Italians do something right, they really do it right.
The Italians sure do. Great looking and sounding. While it continues to work of course.
Perhaps they also have a couple of hitmen available to relieve the world of 2 very, very irritating Americans.
The Italian car industry died in the early 90s when the last Delta Integrale came out off the factory.
EDIT I must add the Italians don't even reproduce at replacement rate, sure sing of the dying culture.
Check this out, A.R. ain't the only one ~
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-04/ferrari-profit-jumps-on-surging-demand-for-big-engine-supercars
Alfa Romeo are wonderful cars. I am on my 3rd Alfa Romeo. The Giulia Quadrifoglio I do love but it is a very expensive car, (basically a Ferrari with an Alfa badge) and great if you can afford it. However, I think the Giulia Veloce is the better vehicle and better priced for me. Then there is the Stelvio SUV. Alfa Romeo a decision of the heart more than the head. I think both are now possible with the new Alfas.
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Check this out, A.R. ain't the only one ~
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-04/ferrari-profit-jumps-on-surging-demand-for-big-engine-supercars
Influence of Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May on car buying globally?
Alfas are exactly like a very pretty and expensive high maintenance girlfriend.
You need to have experienced one of those at least once in your life
This new line up looks really good
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Alfas are exactly like a very pretty and expensive high maintenance girlfriend.
You need to have experienced one of those at least once in your life
This new line up looks really good
Exactly what I used to think. But when you get hundreds of designers and engineers from Ferrari designing a car that aims to save Alfa, it looks like a game changer for the company - which was a heart beat away from death.
Richard I had a 1974 2l GTV Unfortunately the previous owner had bent it fairly severely, and nobody could get the wheel alignment right. Was fine up to about 90km/hr but after that it started to get a bit hairy. All the same it was soooo much fun, I still have dreams about it. Here's a pic from 30 years ago.
Yes decrepit Thanks for posting that great photo.You are indeed a man of great taste. The "105 series" are beautiful cars and were highly successful racing cars throughout the world still much loved today by Alfisti.
My father had two of them a 1750 GTV and a 2000 GTV (and the "non 105" Alfetta GTV 2000) and these were all designed by Giorgietto Giugaro when he worked for Bertone (and later of Italdesign) one the greatest car designers ever and designer of countless Alfas up to the Alfa 159 2.2 JTS Ti Selespeed which is my vehicle similar to as pictured. Italdesign was so good that the consortium of VW, Porsche, Audi, Lamborghini, SEAT Skoda etc purchased the business as I presume they did not want Fiat, Ferrari, Alfa Maserati etc to have access to the designs. Italians are world beaters in car design.I actually think the 159 design is better than the Giulia.
Indeed you can buy new 105 series which are retrofitted by a company called Alfaholics which are seriously fast although highly expensive. See below.
www.alfaholics.com/articles/evo-magazine-review-alfaholics-gta-r-270/
Alfa forever.
Drool indeed.
I still maintain the 159 is the best designed sedan body ever and yes Decrepit, I agree the GTV is the best Alfa design.
I owned a 159 sedan in the UK for a few years. Awesome car, but the Giulia is a better car all around hands down.
At 1/4 the price of a Giulia, the Octavia vRS is still about the same value for money as the Giulia QF.
If one had $160,000 to throw at a Giulia QF, it would be an interesting alternative to the same old M3's and AMG's.
They had the looks, great looking cars, but reliability was extremely poor (if t all that good)
- Like Novetti mentioned high maintenance
159? I think we're all over long, low and swoopy 4 door sedans that try and hark back to a Le Mans racer. Passengers don't like being driven fast. That's why 2wd SUVs are taking over. Better packaging, comfy upright seating.
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159? I think we're all over long, low and swoopy 4 door sedans that try and hark back to a Le Mans racer. Passengers don't like being driven fast. That's why 2wd SUVs are taking over. Better packaging, comfy upright seating.
Who cares about the passenger??????????? These cars are for the driver!
Indeed Decrepit. There are still many people who appreciate cars as a thing of beauty and excitement, rather than seeing them as just boring transport with average handling and performance.
Some cars are designed with the driver in mind rather than just built to suit an unattainable marketing pitch about fun, and fantasy and what a wonderful thing that is!
This doesn't mean one can't drive a Giulia QF with family comfortably around town.
It's a fundamental misunderstanding about cars.
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Indeed Decrepit. There are still many people who appreciate cars as a thing of beauty and excitement, rather than seeing them as just boring transport with average handling and performance.
Some cars are designed with the driver in mind rather than just built to suit an unattainable marketing pitch about fun, and fantasy and what a wonderful thing that is!
This doesn't mean one can't drive a Giulia QF with family comfortably around town.
It's a fundamental misunderstanding about cars.
Agreed. I would also like to point out Alfa Romeo are worth owning. They are despite what you hear, reliable and they are not too expensive to service and maintain compared to BMW and Audi. The joy of driving them down to the shops, or to the city or anywhere for that matter and parking the vehicle taking the casual glance back at the Alfa sends a smile to my dial everytime. The elegant line in the corner of your eye, the vision just like the beauty of a desirable woman as you walk away. The driving experience....you feel like legendary Alfa drivers like Tazio Nuvolari, Niki Lauda, Juan Manuel Fangio, Mauro Bianchi, Andrea De Adamich, Tor Hezemans or Alberto Ascari. This is a car with a beating heart.
I used to have an Alfasud but I was never that bad. There's a bloke in Wollongong who runs a music shop that has got it bad. Can't help himself. He must have about a dozen of them behind the shopfront and spread around the carpark. You go in to buy a string and spend 15 minutes on Alfas. He's collecting 916s. Hardtops, soft tops. Picks them up on Ebay, not going for a few hundred. Gets the bung electrical bit on the internet and away they go. Though I doubt he can bring himself to selling any. He was comparing his latest $400 acquisition to his wife's Corrolla. Same age, she got a couple of thousand as a trade. It was 15K new , the Alfa was 60K.
Select to expand quoteRichardG said..Agreed. I would also like to point out Alfa Romeo are worth owning. They are despite what you hear, reliable and they are not too expensive to service and maintain compared to BMW and Audi.Adriano said..
Indeed Decrepit. There are still many people who appreciate cars as a thing of beauty and excitement, rather than seeing them as just boring transport with average handling and performance.
Some cars are designed with the driver in mind rather than just built to suit an unattainable marketing pitch about fun, and fantasy and what a wonderful thing that is!
This doesn't mean one can't drive a Giulia QF with family comfortably around town.
It's a fundamental misunderstanding about cars.
The joy of driving them down to the shops, or to the city or anywhere for that matter and parking the vehicle taking the casual glance back at the Alfa sends a smile to my dial everytime. The elegant line in the corner of your eye, the vision just like the beauty of a desirable woman as you walk away. The driving experience....you feel like legendary Alfa drivers like Tazio Nuvolari, Niki Lauda, Juan Manuel Fangio, Mauro Bianchi, Andrea De Adamich, Tor Hezemans or Alberto Ascari. This is a car with a beating heart.
Good design.....Some people just don't feel the emotion. Italian design...well that's something else again....
I'd love a Giulia Veloce wagon in a manual. Alfa Red Metallic with red leather. Mmmm....That would be a great car.
Select to expand quoteAdriano said..RichardG said..Agreed. I would also like to point out Alfa Romeo are worth owning. They are despite what you hear, reliable and they are not too expensive to service and maintain compared to BMW and Audi.Adriano said..
Indeed Decrepit. There are still many people who appreciate cars as a thing of beauty and excitement, rather than seeing them as just boring transport with average handling and performance.
Some cars are designed with the driver in mind rather than just built to suit an unattainable marketing pitch about fun, and fantasy and what a wonderful thing that is!
This doesn't mean one can't drive a Giulia QF with family comfortably around town.
It's a fundamental misunderstanding about cars.
The joy of driving them down to the shops, or to the city or anywhere for that matter and parking the vehicle taking the casual glance back at the Alfa sends a smile to my dial everytime. The elegant line in the corner of your eye, the vision just like the beauty of a desirable woman as you walk away. The driving experience....you feel like legendary Alfa drivers like Tazio Nuvolari, Niki Lauda, Juan Manuel Fangio, Mauro Bianchi, Andrea De Adamich, Tor Hezemans or Alberto Ascari. This is a car with a beating heart.
Good design.....Some people just don't feel the emotion. Italian design...well that's something else again....
I'd love a Giulia Veloce wagon in a manual. Alfa Red Metallic with red leather. Mmmm....That would be a great car.
That will be the Stelvio being released by hopefully 2018 in Australia in several versions with AWD.
Hang on! you can't have it both ways. The Stelvio is an SUV (Not that there's anything wrong with that). I've just googled it, 190mm higher than the Giulia. It's built on the same platform.
Look at it from this angle.
Yes but it is an Alfa and in QV form I believe it can do 0-100 kmh in 3.9 seconds.
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Yes but it is an Alfa and in QV form I believe it can do 0-100 kmh in 3.9 seconds.
E bellissima!
1-100 in 3.9 seconds? - so can a RAV4 Richard - in Ian's dreams!
As for cornering, a RAV4 has about as much finesse as an elephant.
As for design and emotion in a RAV4, can't see it but apparently the marketing would have buyers believe it can make a sloth jump.
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Hang on! you can't have it both ways. The Stelvio is an SUV (Not that there's anything wrong with that). I've just googled it, 190mm higher than the Giulia. It's built on the same platform.
Look at it from this angle.
everything about the SUVs is wrong. They suck..all of them.
saw a Maserati SUV the other day.. what a freaken joke
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I dunno. I'd give the prize for the coolest SUV to the 2 door Range Rover Evoque. Closely followed by the Suzuki Ignis
