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Healthy lifestyle choices

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Created by GreenPat > 9 months ago, 12 Aug 2019
Ian K
WA, 4049 posts
27 Aug 2019 12:28PM
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Did you know, that, right now, there is some place on the planet, (probably only one?) where the temperature and pressure is exactly the same as it is at that place's antipodal point?

For those of us who are convinced that you need to exercise old brains to ward off dementia youtube is pretty good. Can't say my head's around the proof of this one but at least it's getting a workout.

Thinking too hard gives you the munchies though. You're risking a death by something food related before you get completely overrun by dementia.

Chris_M
2129 posts
27 Aug 2019 3:25PM
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I think I'll take up vaping




I tried smoking but it was too much effort

Macaha
QLD, 21900 posts
27 Aug 2019 6:25PM
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Sex Drugs and Rocking Roll, Mick Jagger still living his best life.

bjw
QLD, 3623 posts
27 Aug 2019 7:16PM
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Macaha said..
Sex Drugs and Rocking Roll, Mick Jagger still living his best life.


How can I become a rock star?

I want to for health reasons.

FormulaNova
WA, 14734 posts
28 Aug 2019 4:46AM
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Chris_M said..
I think I'll take up vaping

I tried smoking but it was too much effort


I was skeptical when I was reading that 'someone' was worried that vaping was going to see an increase in the number of kids that are 'smoking'. After seeing a few people vaping at the ski fields, I wonder if there might be some truth to this?

Is it about replacing smoking with something else to help quit, or something that makes them feel special? I think some people definitely have the need to stand out, so I wonder if this is what I saw down there?

Harrow
NSW, 4521 posts
28 Aug 2019 8:31AM
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I was skeptical when I was reading that 'someone' was worried that vaping was going to see an increase in the number of kids that are 'smoking'. After seeing a few people vaping at the ski fields, I wonder if there might be some truth to this?

Is it about replacing smoking with something else to help quit, or something that makes them feel special? I think some people definitely have the need to stand out, so I wonder if this is what I saw down there?

A few of the young engineers at work vap. I think it's a combination of doing something trendy, but they also used to add a small amount of nicotine to the mix, so it's also partly influenced by the energy drink/coffee/Berocca culture about being a high performing young professional. Better than copping the bad side of cigarettes I guess. There was one young girl that used to come to her desk in the morning with a can of Vee and her double shot coffee, while chewing a piece of nicorette gum (she's never smoked). Gotta hand it to the marketing guys, they've obviously done their job well.

eppo
WA, 9505 posts
28 Aug 2019 7:58AM
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yeh the youth today - I tell ya! There was so much less unhealthy choices like smoking for the Baby boomer and X generation... They are so much healthier than our over stimulated youth.... Really?? Come on...nearly every one who breathed did smoke in the 70s and 80s and the advertising was definitely centered around being "cool". N one chewed on nico' gum nor took energy drinks, but they smashed down a packet or more of winie Reds every day.

japie
NSW, 6937 posts
28 Aug 2019 10:05AM
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FormulaNova said..
I was skeptical when I was reading that 'someone' was worried that vaping was going to see an increase in the number of kids that are 'smoking'. After seeing a few people vaping at the ski fields, I wonder if there might be some truth to this?

Is it about replacing smoking with something else to help quit, or something that makes them feel special? I think some people definitely have the need to stand out, so I wonder if this is what I saw down there?


A few of the young engineers at work vap. I think it's a combination of doing something trendy, but they also used to add a small amount of nicotine to the mix, so it's also partly influenced by the energy drink/coffee/Berocca culture about being a high performing young professional. Better than copping the bad side of cigarettes I guess. There was one young girl that used to come to her desk in the morning with a can of Vee and her double shot coffee, while chewing a piece of nicorette gum (she's never smoked). Gotta hand it to the marketing guys, they've obviously done their job well.


I reckon that it has a hell of a lot to do with the fact that a high percentage of the population are in a constant state of anxiety induced by the pressure of our circumstances and environment.

I don't listen to any commercial radio or watch any television for that matter but I am on occasion exposed to it as everyone is because there are place where it seems to be on 24 hours a day.

When this happens it always strikes me as being odd that people make a conscious choice to be exposed to what amounts to either constant hype or constant opinionated debate, often both. Aside from the fact that it's not natural it would have to have an undesirable mental effect on the listener.

Bang that in with a poor diet topped up with regular doses of caffeine it's no wonder 25% of people have mental health issues.

Chris_M
2129 posts
28 Aug 2019 8:12AM
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FormulaNova said..

Chris_M said..
I think I'll take up vaping

I tried smoking but it was too much effort



I was skeptical when I was reading that 'someone' was worried that vaping was going to see an increase in the number of kids that are 'smoking'. After seeing a few people vaping at the ski fields, I wonder if there might be some truth to this?

Is it about replacing smoking with something else to help quit, or something that makes them feel special? I think some people definitely have the need to stand out, so I wonder if this is what I saw down there?


I don't even smoke, but I heard vaping was healthy.


If that doesnt work I'll try replacing pizza with fruits

FormulaNova
WA, 14734 posts
28 Aug 2019 9:33AM
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Chris_M said..
If that doesnt work I'll try replacing pizza with fruits



Are you nuts??

If you are determined to try this last resort, be sure to increase your intake of pizza for the years before your experiment, just so that you are comparing anchovies with apples. Maybe one family size pizza for every orange?

FormulaNova
WA, 14734 posts
28 Aug 2019 9:35AM
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FormulaNova said..
I was skeptical when I was reading that 'someone' was worried that vaping was going to see an increase in the number of kids that are 'smoking'. After seeing a few people vaping at the ski fields, I wonder if there might be some truth to this?

Is it about replacing smoking with something else to help quit, or something that makes them feel special? I think some people definitely have the need to stand out, so I wonder if this is what I saw down there?

A few of the young engineers at work vap. I think it's a combination of doing something trendy, but they also used to add a small amount of nicotine to the mix, so it's also partly influenced by the energy drink/coffee/Berocca culture about being a high performing young professional. Better than copping the bad side of cigarettes I guess. There was one young girl that used to come to her desk in the morning with a can of Vee and her double shot coffee, while chewing a piece of nicorette gum (she's never smoked). Gotta hand it to the marketing guys, they've obviously done their job well.


Wow, a V and a double shot coffee.. and nicorette gum! Crazy. I wonder what she was trying to counteract with all that?

I don't mind V, and I don't mind coffee, but I would be all jittery over the place with that load.

japie
NSW, 6937 posts
28 Aug 2019 7:07PM
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PaddlePig
WA, 421 posts
2 Sep 2019 4:12PM
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I think if you are pursuing a healthy lifestyle it has to be a whole intrinsically motivated lifestyle choice, not just an unfit sedentary person who reads a David Goggins book then runs 20km and winds up injured or never does exercise again, that won't cut it.

Also, you must define what you call fitness and what your goals or target sport/ability is. A person at the peak fitness in one sport would be considered useless in another;depends what your goals are.

I have left surfing and pursued distance running as passionately as I can. For me, fitness is converting air (aerobic) into the most efficient and fastest forward movement I can for prolonged time. By sport standards, I'm acutely slow. Even surfing, I've lost that much upper body strength it is much harder to paddle onto waves. It all depends what your goals are.

Anyway, by pursuing an outcome and adapting over time you become supremely fit in your given field. If I'd have to choose, I'd say a healthy choice is a little bit of everything; doing what I've done, is not healthy overall. Then again, it depends if you want to be the best in your field or live in the twilight of mediocrity across many disciplines.

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
2 Sep 2019 5:25PM
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From an article I posted earlier in this thread.

"You would have to eat twice as much broccoli today to get the same nutrients as a generation ago." That is according to data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, from 1975 to 2010, as reported by Planetary Health/Amberwaves. So much chewing! And in fact, the situation may be even more dire. Data going back to 1940, as reported by Eco Farming Daily, shows: "The level of every nutrient in almost every kind of food has fallen between 10 and 100 percent. An individual today would need to consume twice as much meat, three times as much fruit, and four to five times as many vegetables to obtain the same amount of minerals and trace elements available in those same foods in 1940." Thank goodness for multivitamins, but we've also got to fix this.

www.sott.net/article/418993-Broccoli-is-dying-Corn-is-toxic-Long-live-microbiomes

You can now choose healthy food choices and will still very likely turn in to a fat C as you age.

The body for whatever reason the body does not work efficiently when fed food sprayed with poison on it. Who would have thought that?, Just a conspiracy theory eh formula?

The answer is to eat organic.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
2 Sep 2019 7:58PM
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90kgs??? 100kgs+++++OMG 100cm or more around the waist ????? OBEEEESE
Over 100kgs and over 100cm waste.. morbidly obeeeese. Sound scary?? It is, soooo many morbidly obese people that don't realize or think they aren't ?????? Wake up people
Time for healthy choices, lifestyle changes to avoid early death, diabetes and strain on the already stressed health system.
Get off the computer, put down your beer and get moving.......NOW

FormulaNova
WA, 14734 posts
2 Sep 2019 6:02PM
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petermac33 said..
From an article I posted earlier in this thread.

"You would have to eat twice as much broccoli today to get the same nutrients as a generation ago." That is according to data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, from 1975 to 2010, as reported by Planetary Health/Amberwaves. So much chewing! And in fact, the situation may be even more dire. Data going back to 1940, as reported by Eco Farming Daily, shows: "The level of every nutrient in almost every kind of food has fallen between 10 and 100 percent. An individual today would need to consume twice as much meat, three times as much fruit, and four to five times as many vegetables to obtain the same amount of minerals and trace elements available in those same foods in 1940." Thank goodness for multivitamins, but we've also got to fix this.

You can now choose healthy food choices and will still very likely turn in to a fat C as you age.

The body for whatever reason the body does not work efficiently when fed food sprayed with poison on it. Who would have thought that?, Just a conspiracy theory eh formula?

The answer is to eat organic.


Oh cool. I got a mention! Validated again!

Now what were you saying again? You were making some assumption about poison and food nutrition? Where is the source of your article so I can check out to see if you made up the link?

This reminds me so much of when they figured out that a whole lot of the nutrients in mushrooms came from the cow **** they were grown in.

FormulaNova
WA, 14734 posts
2 Sep 2019 7:11PM
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Cool, there is now a link, and for what its worth, I agree, that its probably true that nutrient levels are falling.

So, do you eat enough vegetables to get enough nutrients? Even with the falling levels, most people probably do, but couldn't you make it up with a multivitamin anyway if you were malnourished?

Hardly a conspiracy though. What would be gained by this? Cheaper food? I suspect the rate of malnourishment in the USA is not very high, if you remove from the data set the people that are intentionally not feeding their kids correctly.

If it was a conspiracy, you would have to nominate the intent and how they are doing it. From what it reads, they are just using GMO to increase food production. Hardly a conspiracy. It would make more sense if they used GMO to reduce food production.

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
7 Sep 2019 11:18PM
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87 kg average male and 72 kg for women and climbing every year.

Rarely see a 50 kg women anymore.

www.smh.com.au/healthcare/weight-surge-in-young-australians-sees-7-in-10-overweight-or-obese-20181212-p50lvu.html

FormulaNova
WA, 14734 posts
8 Sep 2019 8:00PM
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87 kg average male and 72 kg for women and climbing every year.

Rarely see a 50 kg women anymore.

www.smh.com.au/healthcare/weight-surge-in-young-australians-sees-7-in-10-overweight-or-obese-20181212-p50lvu.html


I'm missing the point. What are you trying to say? That vegetables now don't have nutrients and at the same time that people are getting obese?

How does that work? Is it normal to get obese without nutrients?

Emeboy
NSW, 399 posts
9 Sep 2019 7:18PM
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petermac33 said..
87 kg average male and 72 kg for women and climbing every year.

Rarely see a 50 kg women anymore.

www.smh.com.au/healthcare/weight-surge-in-young-australians-sees-7-in-10-overweight-or-obese-20181212-p50lvu.html


Wooo Hooo! Finally I am above average!!

rockmagnet
QLD, 1458 posts
11 Sep 2019 12:20PM
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petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
11 Sep 2019 2:31PM
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Stay away from food packaged in plastic.


www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/6577664/Chemicals-in-plastics-feminising-baby-boys-says-study.html

Bighugg
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12 Sep 2019 7:41AM
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petermac33 said..
From an article I posted earlier in this thread.

"You would have to eat twice as much broccoli today to get the same nutrients as a generation ago." That is according to data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, from 1975 to 2010, as reported by Planetary Health/Amberwaves. So much chewing! And in fact, the situation may be even more dire. Data going back to 1940, as reported by Eco Farming Daily, shows: "The level of every nutrient in almost every kind of food has fallen between 10 and 100 percent. An individual today would need to consume twice as much meat, three times as much fruit, and four to five times as many vegetables to obtain the same amount of minerals and trace elements available in those same foods in 1940." Thank goodness for multivitamins, but we've also got to fix this.

www.sott.net/article/418993-Broccoli-is-dying-Corn-is-toxic-Long-live-microbiomes

You can now choose healthy food choices and will still very likely turn in to a fat C as you age.

The body for whatever reason the body does not work efficiently when fed food sprayed with poison on it. Who would have thought that?, Just a conspiracy theory eh formula?

The answer is to eat organic.



Falling nutrients levels could be true when you look at it from a geological and financial perspective. When you visualize the lushness of vegetation its of a valley's vibrant growth. All the nutrients have accumulated on alluvial river flats where traditionally market gardens easily flourished with good healthy natural tucker. All of our capital city's have this historic loss. Think back to where you saw crops as a kid, Look around now and you see urban sprawl on rich farming land that was quick cheap and easy to build on. Farmers have been pushed back onto marginal to poor country to try and grow the same product require more inputs to make up for what's not naturally occurring. Food for thought n research.
We live Central OZ where fresh food is picked pre-ripe and travels a long way. We now grow fresh here , noting a great improvement in our wellbeing. With much lower cravings for junk.
That maybe from the Bison poop we mulch with...

Mr Milk
NSW, 3004 posts
12 Sep 2019 11:01AM
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Simpler explanation is higher water content in the veggies due to supermarkets priority of good appearance and a bit less water loss in transport from farm to shop.

FormulaNova
WA, 14734 posts
12 Sep 2019 5:18PM
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Home grown tomatoes always taste better than the ones from the store. Don't ask me why. Maybe the store bought ones are ripened artificially?

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
12 Sep 2019 6:05PM
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Tomatoes from Coles or WW basically have next to no taste.

Eat a organic one and you will taste what a tomato tasted like 30 years ago.

Of course they also tells us organic food is no healthier than pesticide infested crops.

Most up of us have had our health seriously comprised by big corporate agriculture methods.

Watch the documentary Food Inc.

FormulaNova
WA, 14734 posts
12 Sep 2019 6:57PM
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petermac33 said..
Tomatoes from Coles or WW basically have next to no taste.

Eat a organic one and you will taste what a tomato tasted like 30 years ago.

Of course they also tells us organic food is no healthier than pesticide infested crops.

Most up of us have had our health seriously comprised by big corporate agriculture methods.

Watch the documentary Food Inc.


Maybe you can try growing a tomato? My guess is that the ones in the shops are just not ripened.

Bighugg
490 posts
12 Sep 2019 9:11PM
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True that. I worked/ traveled the fruit/ veggie picking seasons in my younger years. Riper product went local markets or production, backward crop went for interstate. My Mrs is a Southern gal and reckoned tropical fruit had a soapy taste texture and didn't like most of them. Now that she has traveled to warmer climates, has picked n tasted tree n vine ripened crops she has new hungering appetit for fresh as food

PaddlePig
WA, 421 posts
13 Sep 2019 6:31PM
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Sorry to sound rude but...

Sedintary people, what you do or don't eat matters greatly!

Highly active people, what you do or don't eat only highents your performance slightly.

Can't stand when sedintary people go on about diet or wholesome foods etc. No, you're unfit because you do nothing. I can eat what I want really... At 20+ km a day I do what I want in terms of diet and makes little difference. Quit worrying about the food, get off your arse and do some exercise.



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