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Hiaces. Again!!

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Created by ikw777 > 9 months ago, 3 May 2013
ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
3 May 2013 3:31PM
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Has anyone got an opinion on the latest series of Hiaces (Fifth Generation) which they have been making since about 2005? Are they as indestructible, reliable and durable as previous models?

My budget could just about stretch to one of these (2nd hand). Do you reckon I could get 10 years + out of one - say out to 500,000km?


Luma
WA, 169 posts
3 May 2013 1:43PM
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ikw777 said...

Has anyone got an opinion on the latest series of Hiaces (Fifth Generation) which they have been making since about 2005? Are they as indestructible, reliable and durable as previous models?

My budget could just about stretch to one of these (2nd hand). Do you reckon I could get 10 years + out of one - say out to 500,000km?





taxi

sn
WA, 2775 posts
3 May 2013 2:58PM
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We had a long wheel base version diesel 5 speed version at Wodgina, and it later followed us to Sunrise Dam.
It was used as the shift change bus at both sites, and for the trips to and from Port Hedland airport from Wodgina.
Really good and survived well for the 3 or so years that I was driving it
[only bloke on our crew with a bus licence]
only problem it had that I recall was both rear springs snapping at the rear eyes while at Sunrise Dam.

stephen



ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
3 May 2013 5:06PM
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Luma said...

taxi


Windsurfing van / expedition vehicle

sn
WA, 2775 posts
3 May 2013 3:17PM
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ikw777 said...

Windsurfing van / expedition vehicle



If you plan on much dirt road use, give it a set of decent shockies before you go, maybe a new set of spring bushes- and if its loaded to the gills, how about airbags or coilovers to give the rear springs a bit of help?

stephen

ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
3 May 2013 5:39PM
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Looking to have a vehicle that will run for years driving all over the place and supporting my interests in windsurfing, sailing, exploring and DIY.

jimbo76
WA, 46 posts
3 May 2013 4:38PM
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know you don't plan to but they're not real flash in a crash - attended a pretty bad one on Karratha airport access rd involving one of these, mechanisms of injury to driver although not fatal wouldn't have taken too much more to become fatal, driver of other vehicle walked away with concussion.

CJW
NSW, 1718 posts
3 May 2013 7:02PM
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Get an iload or transporter if you plan on driving it any sort of distance . While the Hiace might be pretty durable the ride in them is horrible and as said above they are a balls up in a crash.

ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
3 May 2013 7:41PM
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Iload still out of my price range ($15,000 max). Aren't the Transporters a bit dodgy, fragile and expensive to repair?

Edge
WA, 136 posts
3 May 2013 6:10PM
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Passenger seat is very cramped and has no adjustment. Loaded up they do well.

airjunkie
WA, 142 posts
3 May 2013 6:26PM
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I can't comment on the hiaces . . .

but i have a coupe of mates who own transporters from new (T5) and they have a few expensive regular problems by design
. . . . from memory i think one of the common problems is the water pump failure which is internal on this engine and very expensive to fix
happened twice in three years to one of the owners - the other t5 just once


tgladman
WA, 500 posts
3 May 2013 10:01PM
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CJW said...
Get an iload or transporter if you plan on driving it any sort of distance . While the Hiace might be pretty durable the ride in them is horrible and as said above they are a balls up in a crash.


Although Hyundai now have a reasonably respectable brand I really fail to understand how they used to make really **** vehicles and ppl just kept buying them to a point where the company made enough money to improve the quality of their product, as a business model it is pure madness. I mean do ppl just keep buying **** cause its cheap for long enough for this change to happen? Really baffles me.
Honestly don't understand ppl that buy these vehicles. Like great walls. Oh my god. Seriously.

cisco
QLD, 12323 posts
4 May 2013 1:27AM
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ikw777 said...
Looking to have a vehicle that will run for years driving all over the place and supporting my interests in windsurfing, sailing, exploring and DIY.


Pay your money and take your chances.

No matter what anyone here says, none of them are going to give you a money back warranty on their advices.

Advice is usually only worth what you pay for it. Particularly if it is over the internet.

You have missed out on the Super Custom for $5,500 I mentioned earlier.

So you are coming from WA to Qld and need a van to get here or when you get here?????

You need to crystalize your thinking bloke.

ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
4 May 2013 8:06AM
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^^^ Thanks for that. I clearly needed a good serve.

bobajob
QLD, 1534 posts
4 May 2013 9:24AM
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ikw777 said...
^^^ Thanks for that. I clearly needed a good serve.


Isn't that what Bernard Tomic says after every tournament? Your also clearly a plagiarist!!!!

Ian K
WA, 4048 posts
4 May 2013 7:40AM
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airjunkie said...
I can't comment on the hiaces . . .

but i have a coupe of mates who own transporters from new (T5) and they have a few expensive regular problems by design
. . . . from memory i think one of the common problems is the water pump failure which is internal on this engine and very expensive to fix
happened twice in three years to one of the owners - the other t5 just once





Asked my VW specialist mechanic about T5 transporters. "Very nice but you need deep pockets to run them". However they are servicing T4s with 500,000km on them, original motors. I've only had a T4 for 12 months, so far so good. They are pleasant to drive, great ergonomics, I'd rather long distance in a T4 than semi-reclined in a Commodore. A HiAce might get to 500K cheaper, but would you last the distance? Go for a low milage, last of the T4s ~ 2003.

FormulaNova
WA, 14554 posts
4 May 2013 8:32AM
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tgladman said...

Although Hyundai now have a reasonably respectable brand I really fail to understand how they used to make really **** vehicles and ppl just kept buying them to a point where the company made enough money to improve the quality of their product, as a business model it is pure madness. I mean do ppl just keep buying **** cause its cheap for long enough for this change to happen? Really baffles me.
Honestly don't understand ppl that buy these vehicles. Like great walls. Oh my god. Seriously.


Back when they were selling eXcels, it was a change in the way people bought cars, at least that's the way I remember it. Before then, in that price range, people used to buy second hand cars. When the eXcel was around, now people found for that same money or just a little bit more they could buy a brand new car, and with the warranty hopefully be safe from any significant costs.

I must admit I never drove one, so I don't know how good or bad it was.

I did drive an Elantra wagon of a friends, and that seemed to be a pretty good car.

Some people will buy any new car, just because its a new car.

ggh
VIC, 190 posts
4 May 2013 10:45AM
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If your are looking for something reliable , test drive a ford transit. We used them in the UK as a work vans . We were building LV powerlines and the vans were pretty much a treated hard. We nick named them Pommy hiluxes unbreakable.
Very confortable ride and would easilly sit on 140 on the highway . Towed 2 tonne cable trailers used them to winch up conductor and best of all overloaded them with scrap copper on the way to the scrappy

It wasnt a vehicle I purchased they were company provided . Cant say I can compare them to the Hiace as I have tried one but I would certainly put them in the mix.
Have fun shopping

bobajob
QLD, 1534 posts
4 May 2013 10:48AM
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ggh said...
If your are looking for something reliable , test drive a ford transit. We used them in the UK as a work vans . We were building LV powerlines and the vans were pretty much a treated hard. We nick named them Pommy hiluxes unbreakable.
Very confortable ride and would easilly sit on 140 on the highway . Towed 2 tonne cable trailers used them to winch up conductor and best of all overloaded them with scrap copper on the way to the scrappy

It wasnt a vehicle I purchased they were company provided . Cant say I can compare them to the Hiace as I have tried one but I would certainly put them in the mix.
Have fun shopping


I've heard them called the "Ford Tragic"

bobajob
QLD, 1534 posts
4 May 2013 11:00AM
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Ian K said...
airjunkie said...
I can't comment on the hiaces . . .

but i have a coupe of mates who own transporters from new (T5) and they have a few expensive regular problems by design
. . . . from memory i think one of the common problems is the water pump failure which is internal on this engine and very expensive to fix
happened twice in three years to one of the owners - the other t5 just once





Asked my VW specialist mechanic about T5 transporters. "Very nice but you need deep pockets to run them". However they are servicing T4s with 500,000km on them, original motors. I've only had a T4 for 12 months, so far so good. They are pleasant to drive, great ergonomics, I'd rather long distance in a T4 than semi-reclined in a Commodore. A HiAce might get to 500K cheaper, but would you last the distance? Go for a low milage, last of the T4s ~ 2003.


I've got a T5 1.9L diesel with 178000Ks. Had from new (2008). They are great to drive untill something goes wrong...$$$$$. Don't get them serviced from the "$tealers", there are quite a few competent mechs around that will do the servicing at less than half.
It may be me, but I have never wrecked so many tyres on all the cars I have ever owned as with the VW. And tyres for these are not cheap and never on special at "Bob Jane" or elsewhere. You also need special "gold dust" sprinkled oil that you can't get from Super Cheap or Repco.
I reccon I'll go Japanese for the next van.
My 2c

tgladman
WA, 500 posts
4 May 2013 9:12AM
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FormulaNova said...
tgladman said...

Although Hyundai now have a reasonably respectable brand I really fail to understand how they used to make really **** vehicles and ppl just kept buying them to a point where the company made enough money to improve the quality of their product, as a business model it is pure madness. I mean do ppl just keep buying **** cause its cheap for long enough for this change to happen? Really baffles me.
Honestly don't understand ppl that buy these vehicles. Like great walls. Oh my god. Seriously.


Back when they were selling eXcels, it was a change in the way people bought cars, at least that's the way I remember it. Before then, in that price range, people used to buy second hand cars. When the eXcel was around, now people found for that same money or just a little bit more they could buy a brand new car, and with the warranty hopefully be safe from any significant costs.

I must admit I never drove one, so I don't know how good or bad it was.

I did drive an Elantra wagon of a friends, and that seemed to be a pretty good car.

Some people will buy any new car, just because its a new car.




Valid point. Never thought of it like that. Humans are the strangest creatures.

TurtleHunter
WA, 1675 posts
4 May 2013 10:28AM
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I have 6 of these and also had 6 of the older ones. So far they have all needed new plugs at around 200k and new front bearing hubs at 250k. The older ones needed plugs changed more regularly but the front hubs just needed repacked bearings. I also had to change a few heads (not all of them)on the older ones at 300k but the new ones seem to be going better. Also the older ones needed a few rear door latches replaced where the new ones seem to be going fine. Finally the new ones don't seem to use oil as soon as the older style. Only other thing I have noticed is the new ones chew out the front tyre quicker.
I rate them but have always had the manual petrol but are building(they are campervans) a new slwb auto diesel so we will see how that goes.

airjunkie
WA, 142 posts
4 May 2013 2:08PM
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FormulaNova said...

Some people will buy any new car, just because its a new car.



i totally agree look at the jeeps that people are buying currently with the poor build quality that hyundai started out with

Spotty
VIC, 1619 posts
5 May 2013 8:47PM
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Having driven Bedfords and VW vans and survived by not crashing I'd put the Hace in the same category somewhat, air bags Mae a big difference. The iLoad has a better crash rating for obvious reasons with extended nose/bonnet, Vito the same but with a 5 star rating but you pay for it.



ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
5 May 2013 10:12PM
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There's no doubt that head on crash safety is poor in forward control vans (side impact is good however because of the height of he driver's set). I'm driving a Nissan van here in NZ right now and I notice I have adjusted my driving style, i.e. much slower, much more attentive, much more careful.

The vans with a nose can't compete in interior space though, especially length (which you need for windsurfing) and I have been surprised to find that I love driving "cabover" vehicles. Great view/visibility and fun at low speeds.

Probably get a Hiace and do this to it.


Ian K
WA, 4048 posts
5 May 2013 8:48PM
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ikw777 said...


The vans with a nose can't compete in interior space though, especially length (which you need for windsurfing)


How much length do you need? HiAces, Transits, Transporters, Vitos, Sprinters and the French vans all come in a variety of lengths.



ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
5 May 2013 11:49PM
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Present van has a shade under 2.8 metres. Nice. One board is 266 long (old school) and a few others are 245s. I measured a few Toyota and Nissan "nose" vans which all seemed to top out at 2.4m in the cargo area.

My Nissan Caravan - soon to be sold.


Ian K
WA, 4048 posts
6 May 2013 5:09AM
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Plenty of LWB T4s about, shade over 2.8. You seem set on a matching old school no nose van, Toyota are the only newish ones still around that I can see.

ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
6 May 2013 10:31AM
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I'll investigate t4s thoroughly.

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
7 May 2013 9:07PM
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sold my hiace at 600,000kms, saw it at a tip with 110,000kms on it .
Ive had finally rusted away from my driving it on a salt lake way back at 400,00kms.
most euro vans have better seats but the hiace will go on forever.
in relation to crashing, I always figured ,dont fn crash

ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
7 May 2013 11:11PM
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landyacht said..
in relation to crashing, I always figured ,dont fn crash


Love it!



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