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Small fire rated kit homes for coastal holiday house?

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Created by ok > 9 months ago, 26 Jun 2019
landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
28 Jun 2019 4:43PM
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Mark _australia said..

Ian K said..
3 times the fire resistance of conventional houses according to some!


www.strawbale.com

"The fire resistance of straw bale walls is far superior in that it's not based solely on the covering materials. The resistance comes from the entire wall assembly. Thick layers of fire resistant plaster cover the walls. Beneath that, the density of the bales provides a secondary layer of defense. The bales are so tightly packed, that flames cannot penetrate them. There simply isn't enough free oxygen to sustain flame spread"



Yes thats why I mentioned it

2ft thick walls have insanely high insulation, and they are very fire resistant with the cement rendered outer and compressed inner


most straw bale builders seem to hit a wall when they try to buy the right size suitably dense straw bales. not that easy to get.. I'm busy with an architect finalising a timber frame 3 bedroom in a BAL19 zone at the moment .and you have to really think about every little detail. . planning on 250 mm thick limestone walls instead of brick veneer, cos i can't lay bricks for s**t. got permission from wifey to 2 years off from "working" to build it. . to save money i have been on the scrounge for 3 years+ for materials. shifted 6000 old bricks over christmas,rather over that exercise already. If your not building off the shelf you will need to to get your design energy rated , but having seen what passes for houses in the suburbs ,that can't be too hard.

nicephotog
NSW, 251 posts
26 Jul 2019 5:32PM
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Cutting a fire break helps , but as Marysville shows in Black Saturday nothing does stop a bush-fire unless it's at least 100 meters from the fire with nothing to burn in between and principally steel frame and solid stone walls !

The trouble is when the wind blows the foliage can send out huge tongues of fire 50 meters well into the 1000 degrees Celsius level.



causehecan
WA, 668 posts
26 Jul 2019 6:04PM
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If i had a choice between owning a nice home or a fire tornado im chooseing fire tornado .


I would be godly


Think of all the names in history. I cant think of any that could compete with me and my fire tornado. It threw a police car?!? And the car wasnt burnt?! I dont even have to be in the same suburb as you to f you up. Cant shoot me drones wouldnt stand a chance i think explosives might even detonate. Plus i could just send it out to do things, fire tornado things. Nukeing it would probably work didnt they nuke a oil spill to stop it once?

Shanty
QLD, 487 posts
26 Jul 2019 10:33PM
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causehecan said..
If i had a choice between owning a nice home or a fire tornado im chooseing fire tornado .


I would be godly


Think of all the names in history. I cant think of any that could compete with me and my fire tornado. It threw a police car?!? And the car wasnt burnt?! I dont even have to be in the same suburb as you to f you up. Cant shoot me drones wouldnt stand a chance i think explosives might even detonate. Plus i could just send it out to do things, fire tornado things. Nukeing it would probably work didnt they nuke a oil spill to stop it once?


Sound like your organising an Area 51 raid?

kato
VIC, 3398 posts
27 Jul 2019 12:45AM
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nicephotog said..
Cutting a fire break helps , but as Marysville shows in Black Saturday nothing does stop a bush-fire unless it's at least 100 meters from the fire with nothing to burn in between and principally steel frame and solid stone walls !

The trouble is when the wind blows the foliage can send out huge tongues of fire 50 meters well into the 1000 degrees Celsius level.





Sadly these videos don't show the reality . Been doing bushfires professionally for 20 years and never seen a video that gets it right. I was at Marysville 4 months after and very little survived. Saw fire travel through sheep paddocks 1km width with very little slowing down . Not much you could do in that weather environment

causehecan
WA, 668 posts
27 Jul 2019 5:50AM
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Water and air both gases both behave very very same. What about fire is it like same? Was that 1km like a wave?

kato
VIC, 3398 posts
27 Jul 2019 11:04AM
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In parts yes.

causehecan
WA, 668 posts
27 Jul 2019 9:07AM
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So those planeteers could of just had like 3 rings instead of bloody 5.

nicephotog
NSW, 251 posts
28 Jul 2019 12:09AM
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kato said..

nicephotog said..
Cutting a fire break helps , but as Marysville shows in Black Saturday nothing does stop a bush-fire unless it's at least 100 meters from the fire with nothing to burn in between and principally steel frame and solid stone walls !

The trouble is when the wind blows the foliage can send out huge tongues of fire 50 meters well into the 1000 degrees Celsius level.






Sadly these videos don't show the reality . Been doing bushfires professionally for 20 years and never seen a video that gets it right. I was at Marysville 4 months after and very little survived. Saw fire travel through sheep paddocks 1km width with very little slowing down . Not much you could do in that weather environment


Ok's gone silent , hmmmm whatever can the mater be !!??

I fought a spot fire started from a bushfire up at Barrington tops area in the early seventies when i was a kid, cinders kept landing and it kept reigniting so we had to get out fast. You know you have a NAZI government when all the trails while well kept , roughly have no good directive signs such as OUT THIS WAY but the most is even the small fire truck that got through (they knew we were in there) kept being stuck in thr special creek and deep furrow crossing dips in the road. All they are doing is preventing ordinary cars getting away, this was an early tray top 2 ton. Does OK but only short car like vehicles can actually get through. While the fire and smoke started to rise over the hill we had to push it out of one of those tight jammed dips. They are a murdering prick everywhere so people cannot get away if the cops are chasing them, that's all that's in that in doing the tactics that way. Never bother to think of fire coming at 50 - 100Km wind !



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