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Speeding fine help

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Created by ok > 9 months ago, 7 May 2012
ok
NSW, 1088 posts
7 May 2012 9:56PM
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I have been stupidly caught speeding. Yes im dumb and i am at fault. I was just wondering if anyone knows of ways i can keep my licence as i need it for work. I have been caught by a " Transport Roads & Maritime Services" safety camera undertaking cars. Doing 109 in a 70 zone. The letter i received says i have to appear in court. Any help or advice apart from the obvious of not speeding again would be great!!!!!!

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
7 May 2012 10:06PM
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Na, you can speed again,
just dont get caught.

adolf
1862 posts
7 May 2012 8:12PM
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ok said...

I have been stupidly caught speeding. Yes im dumb and i am at fault. I was just wondering if anyone knows of ways i can keep my licence as i need it for work. I have been caught by a " Transport Roads & Maritime Services" safety camera undertaking cars. Doing 109 in a 70 zone. The letter i received says i have to appear in court. Any help or advice apart from the obvious of not speeding again would be great!!!!!!


Go through the death notices in your newspaper, and nominate a deceased driver. Alternatively, hang around some backpacker hostel and get chatting with them - buy em a round of beers. Find someone who is leaving the country in the next few days, get their name and address and nominate them as the driver.

No, sorry, bad advice.

ok
NSW, 1088 posts
7 May 2012 10:31PM
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i think ill just have to nominate my brother and not tell him.

adolf
1862 posts
7 May 2012 8:42PM
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It makes me wonder if some people short of a buck and low on points, may advertise on ebay, gumtres, seabreeze or some such site who would take the wrap in return for a few hundred bucks or a plasma with foxtel. Just like those people I've heard about on 60minutes who sell their organs in third world countries.

There would have to be a market for that. You keep your job and they get foxtel - Win win!

Mark _australia
WA, 22521 posts
7 May 2012 8:46PM
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ok

I am curious as to why when low on points (halfway there, anyway) and you need a licence for work you are doing 39 over the limit

10 over, accident (or you know the cameras go off at 12 or 14 etc lol)
20 over, late and having trouble doing only 10 over
39 over - strewth.

isn't the idea of the system is you lose your licence now, and then you'll understand the idea of consequences and don't speed again?

Stuthepirate
SA, 3590 posts
7 May 2012 10:20PM
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Tell them your the Minister of transport or the head of the transport union.

rickwindt
WA, 245 posts
7 May 2012 8:51PM
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theres E plates for drink drivers.. surely there would be something like that for when you speed too?

the delivery driver at my work got hired while he was on E plates... dont know what my boss was thinking with that one...

ok
NSW, 1088 posts
7 May 2012 11:07PM
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Mark _australia said...

ok

I am curious as to why when low on points (halfway there, anyway) and you need a licence for work you are doing 39 over the limit

10 over, accident (or you know the cameras go off at 12 or 14 etc lol)
20 over, late and having trouble doing only 10 over
39 over - strewth.

isn't the idea of the system is you lose your licence now and then understand the idea of consequences and don't speed again?




it was a brand new car at the time (xr6 turbo ute) and i was in a rush (21 & bulletproof) as i work for myself and time is money and didnt think there was any cameras. i am silly and deserve what ever i get i know. Just wondering if theres any way i could keep my licence even if i nominated to drive my other slow bravo work ute.

adolf
1862 posts
7 May 2012 9:09PM
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Mark _australia said...

ok

I am curious as to why when low on points (halfway there, anyway) and you need a licence for work you are doing 39 over the limit

10 over, accident (or you know the cameras go off at 12 or 14 etc lol)
20 over, late and having trouble doing only 10 over
39 over - strewth.

isn't the idea of the system is you lose your licence now and then understand the idea of consequences and don't speed again?




I'm not sure you should be so quick to judge.

In Victoria I lost my license for a month for being over 20km/h over the speeding limit - it wasn't anything to do with how many points I'd acquired previously. It's a mandatory thing.

Where I was fined, I cannot see that the speed I was traveling at was in any way unsafe. We are talking about a speed camera set up about a km out of a small country town where the limit was 50km/h, been caught there before - very sneaky IMO.

The placement of this particular camera was designed to catch people leaving town. Speed cameras are the new stamp duty for State Govt. It's much more of a revenue raising thing than a safety thing. Just as gambling addiction is less of a problem for state government than the short term money it raises for them.

In saying that, I have only a few points left, I hardly watch the road anymore - far too busy looking between the hundreds of speed limit signs on the road, cars that are suspiciously parked on the side of the road and my speedometer - it's a f'ckn joke.

youngbull
QLD, 825 posts
7 May 2012 11:20PM
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I lost 2 step brothers from a speeder.

Life Lesson 1: Life is not fair
Life Lesson 2: Cop it on the chin - Man up!
Life Lesson 3: Don't do it again or at least keep it under the 15km's over mark, only 3 points and they might be a paraplegic instead of red paint on your windscreen.

You wanted advice there it is. Plain and sweet.

By the way this topic is severely messed up..






Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
7 May 2012 11:25PM
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you maybe able to get your license back on a good behaviour bond (one more mistake in 12 mths and you lose your license for twice as long). But now its at court you maybe need to consult some legal advice as to the best way to show the court that you need a license for work - e.g: business evidence etc

I would say good luck but if you are 39km over and being a goose on the road I have little sympathy. Do the crime do the time I think they say and its hard for me not to agree.

Maybe next time you could re-word it to show that you actually understand the error of your ways a little more.

"I have been caught speeding. Yes I'm dumb, stupid and i am at fault."

pierrec45
NSW, 2005 posts
7 May 2012 11:32PM
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"In Victoria I lost my license for a month for being over 20km/h over the speeding limit - it wasn't anything to do with how many points I'd acquired previously. It's a mandatory thing."

Really ???
Half the state would be carless. You sure?

SP
10979 posts
7 May 2012 9:38PM
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ok said...

I have been stupidly caught speeding. Yes im dumb and i am at fault. I was just wondering if anyone knows of ways i can keep my licence as i need it for work. I have been caught by a " Transport Roads & Maritime Services" safety camera undertaking cars. Doing 109 in a 70 zone. The letter i received says i have to appear in court. Any help or advice apart from the obvious of not speeding again would be great!!!!!!


Nup youre gone, cause your 35 km over. In NSW, Automatic suspension for 3 months and 5 points and i think a pretty hefty fine. You're an idiot but you already know that, maybe losing your license is a better lesson than killing yourself or even worse some innocent person.

As for keeping your license! Doubt it would work in your case and I'm Not sure if it works anymore but you used to Be able to over pay the fine by a small amount, usually $1 and the Rta won't issue a cheque refund for such a low amount, therefore the fine doesn't get closed off and it causes a delay in you're points being deducted, used to take months for them to sort it out.


landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
7 May 2012 9:41PM
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suck up the fine and loss of licence, employ somebody as a TA and to do your driving, .
bizarrely it may be a good business decision as you would up your hourly rate, get more work done, in the same time period.
presumably you have some cash to burn. maybe sell the xr6 before you get temped to speed again,with or without your licence, buy a work ute with the change, and a good pushie(you'll need that)

theDoctor
NSW, 5780 posts
7 May 2012 11:46PM
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110 in a 70 zone is inconsiderate and stupid, I make a point of not helping inconsiderate and stupid people...

FlySurfer
NSW, 4453 posts
7 May 2012 11:46PM
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ok said...

I have been stupidly caught speeding. Yes im dumb and i am at fault. I was just wondering if anyone knows of ways i can keep my licence as i need it for work. I have been caught by a " Transport Roads & Maritime Services" safety camera undertaking cars. Doing 109 in a 70 zone. The letter i received says i have to appear in court. Any help or advice apart from the obvious of not speeding again would be great!!!!!!


You got caught by some arbitrary speed limit going as fast as a Cheetah.
Imagine the speed limit was 120kmh, or even 180kmh... the sheep would think you were safe.
Why was it a 70kmh limit, was it a residential area, kids playing in the street? Guaranteed it was a speed limit most people would think slow for the conditions.

Now guess what, you're going to add to the GDP... the judge is going to get paid, the court attendants are going to get paid, the fat inbreed woman at the SDRO is going to get paid, and a whole series of people are going to get paid... guess who's shout it is.

If you had caused damage, injured or killed somebody I'd say fark you, rot in jail.
Sorry dude, welcome to the slow lane.

Remember to say how sorry you are, and how you didn't realize how dangerous your actions were, and how you appreciate the opportunity to reflect on the seriousness of your actions.... if you can well up a tear, all the better... yes I've been there, tail wind caused me to go too fast (>180kmh)

adolf
1862 posts
7 May 2012 9:54PM
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pierrec45 said...

"In Victoria I lost my license for a month for being over 20km/h over the speeding limit - it wasn't anything to do with how many points I'd acquired previously. It's a mandatory thing."

Really ???
Half the state would be carless. You sure?


Yep. look it up.

The points thing is probably a pretty good system - at least that's fair. The fines I think are unfair - it's not as if they are using the revenue to make our roads safer. If they were, we would have autobahns with unlimited speed limits like we do in the fatherland.

Difficult to argue with people who've lost loved ones due to speed. Ultimately youngbull is right.

Skid
QLD, 1499 posts
8 May 2012 12:11AM
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adolf said...


... Speed cameras are the new stamp duty for State Govt. It's much more of a revenue raising thing than a safety thing...



You could well be right!
I have found the best way to fight back is to not contribute to the revenue raising by...
Not speeding
Simple, effective and if every one did it we could embarrass every state government (as they would be unable to balance their budgets).

Hey, it might even make the roads a safer place

Unfortunately, it will not not bring back Youngbulls step brothers (and countless others like them)

edit: Adolf, I am not having a go at you. Just using your often used revenue vs safety quote to make a point. I trust my post is taken as intended.

youngbull
QLD, 825 posts
8 May 2012 1:36AM
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To ok, "edited" also meant to say to everyone...aswell.

This was not the incident but one very similar.



The damage was done by 2 pdestrains.

No one want's to tell your children that dady will never be home again.
No one want this on your concious.

user: ok - your bravo is not a slower car. It's the driver. An old Ke ford Laser will get to 170.
3mths goes in the blink of an eye.

I have been lucky enough to do 309km's on a r6 bike and 311km's on a TL1000r both at willowbank raceway.
I have a dirt bike. I can wheelie, speed, go friggen mental in the bush ( reg trail bike )
I have a 4wd to scare the bejusus out of me when I do big red at Glass House Mountains.
If I could sell adrenalilne I would be rich and not one bit is produced from speeding on the road.
I'm not gloating just saying there are so many thing in life that let you have endless fun and at YOUR own peral not others.

To the few that know the look of flesh 3 day's later at a police holding yard blended into a car is something you will never never ever forget + the smell. It will change your life. Sounds like you need to think about your's - starts with your attitude.


GypsyDrifter
WA, 2371 posts
8 May 2012 12:25AM
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ok said...

I have been stupidly caught speeding. Yes im dumb and i am at fault. I was just wondering if anyone knows of ways i can keep my licence as i need it for work. I have been caught by a " Transport Roads & Maritime Services" safety camera undertaking cars. Doing 109 in a 70 zone. The letter i received says i have to appear in court. Any help or advice apart from the obvious of not speeding again would be great!!!!!!


Get a lawyer don't do it yourself!

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
8 May 2012 9:59AM
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As a SES volunteer that has witnessed first-hand the damage & repercussions on the families involved...I won't join in with a lecture.

All I can say (as I'm assuming that you're a good guy that did something dumb, and luckily, this time, no-one was hurt) is to be honest with the judge. Explain that you realise you made a bad mistake due to work pressures and in the split-second, it was too late...and also that you need your license for your work. You might get a suspended sentence or limitations (at best).

As mentioned, get your solicitor to put it together. At worst you will lose your license and look at it as a lesson learned.

FlySurfer
NSW, 4453 posts
8 May 2012 11:09AM
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GypsyDrifter said...

ok said...

I have been stupidly caught speeding. Yes im dumb and i am at fault. I was just wondering if anyone knows of ways i can keep my licence as i need it for work. I have been caught by a " Transport Roads & Maritime Services" safety camera undertaking cars. Doing 109 in a 70 zone. The letter i received says i have to appear in court. Any help or advice apart from the obvious of not speeding again would be great!!!!!!


Get a lawyer don't do it yourself!


He has only 1 option... and that's to say "sorry". If he gets a lawyer he'll be worse off.

FlySurfer
NSW, 4453 posts
8 May 2012 11:28AM
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youngbull said...

To ok, "edited" also meant to say to everyone...aswell.

This was not the incident but one very similar.



The damage was done by 2 pdestrains.

No one want's to tell your children that dady will never be home again.
No one want this on your concious.

user: ok - your bravo is not a slower car. It's the driver. An old Ke ford Laser will get to 170.
3mths goes in the blink of an eye.

I have been lucky enough to do 309km's on a r6 bike and 311km's on a TL1000r both at willowbank raceway.
I have a dirt bike. I can wheelie, speed, go friggen mental in the bush ( reg trail bike )
I have a 4wd to scare the bejusus out of me when I do big red at Glass House Mountains.
If I could sell adrenalilne I would be rich and not one bit is produced from speeding on the road.
I'm not gloating just saying there are so many thing in life that let you have endless fun and at YOUR own peral not others.

To the few that know the look of flesh 3 day's later at a police holding yard blended into a car is something you will never never ever forget + the smell. It will change your life. Sounds like you need to think about your's - starts with your attitude.




What does that have to do with speeding?
Surely that's driver training.
Maybe he/she was using their mobile, playing with the GPS or radio.
Given the damage to the car, I'd say it was a slow impact <60kmh.

I see people every day racing SilverStone and Philip Is @ average speeds of 180kmh with no ill effect.

There should be no reason for speed limits of 70kmh on a 3 lane highway with no intersections.
I think 180kmh is reasonable for a highway with no intersections... it's a LIMIT
120kmh for dual lane not built up area.
60kmh for residential/built up areas.

What do we have? Freakin variable speed limits every where.

And fining people for being UNDER 10km/h is just insulting. Humans can run at 42kmh... speeding should be over 20kmh and the very minimum.

Also FYI: the R6 doesn't do 309Kmh nor does the TL, my tricked out R1 wouldn't even go over 290kmh... real speed 278kmh.

harry potter
VIC, 2777 posts
8 May 2012 12:00PM
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39 over ( in a 70 zone ) is too fast mate

I for one hate speed cameras I do about 80,000 km a year and I have barely any points left.
Every fine bar one is for less than 10km over the limit ( the only other was less than 15)
Most recent was on the freeway a detected speed of 107 fined for 104
Seriously it's bull$h1t

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
8 May 2012 10:04AM
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Ive heard in WA they have gone for a double or nothing idea. Havnt heard much about it but seems like a good idea.

GypsyDrifter
WA, 2371 posts
8 May 2012 10:09AM
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harry potter said...


Most recent was on the freeway a detected speed of 107 fined for 104
Seriously it's bull$h1t


now that's just silly

youngbull
QLD, 825 posts
8 May 2012 12:10PM
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FYI Flysurfer: r6 was highly moded as the TLR. As for an R1 not doing 300 and it was moded - you don't know how to ride. or know the facts.
I have witnesseses an r1 on the back wheel at 220km and your saying they wont reach 300 pffff.... whatever.....



Rex
WA, 949 posts
8 May 2012 10:33AM
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FlySurfer said...

I see people every day racing SilverStone and Philip Is @ average speeds of 180kmh with no ill effect.



And how has that got any relevance to speeding on shared roads? Peter Brock comes to mind.

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
8 May 2012 10:37AM
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Rex said...

FlySurfer said...

I see people every day racing SilverStone and Philip Is @ average speeds of 180kmh with no ill effect.



And how has that got any relevance to speeding on shared roads? Peter Brock comes to mind.



That was a closed road for the rally.

Paul Kelf
WA, 678 posts
8 May 2012 11:22AM
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doggie said...

Rex said...

FlySurfer said...

I see people every day racing SilverStone and Philip Is @ average speeds of 180kmh with no ill effect.



And how has that got any relevance to speeding on shared roads? Peter Brock comes to mind.



That was a closed road for the rally.


And as good as he was, still managed to f#ck up.

ok, change your attitude, stop worrying about cameras & start thinking about people's safety, including yours.



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