Four Corners on ABC featured these guys last Monday night and will present part 2 next Monday night.
Every one of them a total professional and put most of us to shame as they did me.
To a man, none of them wants to leave until the job is done. They are upholding the ANZAC tradition to the highest standard and deserve our highest respect.
Check out these magnificent specimens of human beings on the ABC web site.
It is no wonder the Afghanis want to migrate the country where these guys are bred.
if i was from Afghanistan i certainly would be wanting to migrate too, to get away from all that D.U dust and radiation.[[sorry flysurfer]
Perth, probably not the best though, Lancelin U.S military base testing D.U weapons i have heard.
Good call cisco, our troops are there for the right reasons. Unfortunately our casualties will rise, joe public will put pressure on the government to pull them out but we need to listen to the guys on the ground there- if they leave now or anytime soon every life lost would have been a waste as it will just return to the state it was before they went there.
petermac33: don't get the apology... i agree... hell i don't even know what job they need to get done in Afghanistan... i thought we were there to pillage and make a pipe line.
hired killers the lot of 'em.
not even close to heros in my book.
they were'nt conscripted they had a choice.
it has absolutely nothing to do with the freedom of this country or any other, infact the very opposite is true.
reality is the military works for corporate interests.
what is the job their doing?
is it to introduce democracy?
because a 'democratic' uneducated islamic population will just vote for Sharia law..
which is basically the same as mumbo as the taliban.. stonings, honour killings and fatwas..
just highly paid merc missionary's. They should send over an extremist islam militia to Salt Lake city, whats the difference, really? there all religiously screwed in the head
"That said, it was illegal to fly a kite in Afganistan under the taliban"
you cant' even do that in Rowville send in the marines
My neighbour is pretty cagey about what he does in Afganastan. But the upgrade from a Lexus to a luxury Audi? good for him and his family. But don't tell me these people are heros like "Anzacs", they are Mercenary self serving people, such a huge difference.
I cant believe you blokes The Doctor and the other numbskull , your comments make me sick.Just after another Aussie soldier dies today.
no aussie soldiers would die if they were'nt there to begin with.
how many afghanies died today...?
how many iraqies...?
is it really any different because of a flag on a uniform...?
seeing one life worth than another because of ridiculous jingoistic patriotism makes me sick.
I wonder how many Iraqies or Afghans died when the troops where not their.If it wasnt for the Military and those hired killers you wouldnt be enjoying the life you do today.
most Aussie soldiers are ignorant that the war is a ruse,were it not for this, well....
everyone in Afghanistan, including our soldiers is being exposed to the radiation caused by the use of D.U weaponry and probable breathing in of D.U dust itself.
i feel sorry for the Aussie soldiers breathing in this stuff,most have no idea, until they get sick and do research on it's dangers that it's deadly!
serving in Afghanistan/Iraq/Bosnia is like serving in Chernobyl.
an increase of 12 fold in opium production, military patrolling the opium farms to then sell back to the west for insane profit margins, no smoking gun there some will still say.
doctor, what is your profession, out of curiosity?
Is it something that benefits the community? Teacher, nurse, mental health volunteer? silverchain? the salvos? Samiritans help line? even lowly tradesman?
I ask because your statements in general are, in an imperfect world, idealistic; and I wonder if you strive to make a material difference in achieving those ideals or is it mainly your voice.
In further comment,
Whilst military intervention is debatable on many levels, especially for those who live in fear of corporate control, it is unfortunately a part of life.
As one of my favoured theologians said roughly,
"We (budists< I cant spell!) are not weak, or as you may think, not use violence at all costs as some Llamas tried or led the west to believe. We will fight, we fight to protect our women, our children our neighbours"
Life isnt easy, some think its owed to them. Some give it all.
don't get me wrong , I understand military insubordination would probably carry a penalty that would make killing babies seem tame by comparison and the level of mind control progaming and brain washing on the front line grunt would be on the level of something most none of us could imagine.
this isn't like the turn of last century when a notice was pinned to local post office, a headline screamed or the radio crackled to roust up the chaps for queen and country.
conscription is not a reality in this country (yet)
the grunt still chose to be a grunt.
the jingoistic patriotism comes from joe public who read the tabloids, watch today tonight and beat their chest scared their right to live within the most taxed and over governed corporate nation on earth is going to be taken away from them by a bunch of towel headed gun crazy women hating camel herders on the other side of the world.
replace guns with shovels, hand tools and service and skills training and i'm all for the military.
err doctor, all service pesonel receive skills training, thats why so many "grunts" sign up,, so they can get paid training and qualifications...
your just trying to bait me arent you??? your not thick.
so what is your contribution? Because I know the Samaritans help line is desperate for volunteers to take the night shift on their call line..put that voice to use mate.
Next your going to tell me , 9/11 ,bali , madrid where all inside jobs , the world will end in 2012 and their are aliens amongst us.
Doc and Petermac do you seriously believe that the Taliban are great rulers? I surmise that you agree with forced circumcision of girls, married women being stoned to death because they were raped and reported it (that is considered adultery, even if raped). Maybe you agree with when some dude stood up and said this isn't right - non violent writing a letter to the paper type stuff, not trying to be militant....... and they cut the throat of his 9 y/o son in front of him and shot up half the rest of the village.
They are savages who should be p!ssed off forever and Australia is doing the country a great service by getting rid of the Taliban.
Makes me sick when you mob think that we as a strong country should not go and help a poor people who can't stand up for themselves.
If this was happening in Australia and the citizens could do nothing about it, you'd be grateful for outside help.
Maybe you should go live in Afghanistan.....
I find the whole war saga thing a bit disturbing.
America storms Iraq and afghanistan under the guise of 'terrorists' and shocking human right violations, yet it stands by and does nothing for Burmese people who have suffered apalling human right violations for decades or even Zimbabwians under the Mugabe regime.
Conflict in the middle East is driven by the Wests need for oil. It is nieve at best to believe that America is defending human right violations in the East - if anything i believe they are the perpetrators.
That said i sympathise with the young soilders (and their families waiting at home) sent to Afghanistan to fight for well i'm still unsure.
ANZAC tradition - "Land at the wrong place, oh well lets keep fighting anyway!!"
Its not that they are not brave, but why the extra fuss when a soldier dies, while a death on the roads might get 15 seconds on the news.
They are no more super heroes than our miners! or regular road users.
Lets spare a thought for the taliban fighters, those poor chaps infected with a paticular dogmatic mind virus.. should they not deserve our highest respect as well? wheres the ABC feature on them?
