Cheap Chineese Carbon Foil

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A friend of mine sent me this today. Thought it might interest people on a low budget. I have no affiliation whatsoever with this seller and also no idea how good this product is...but I must say it sure looks nice for the price!

Comes out to about $530 AUD delivered.

Christian

Theres a thread on these in Kiteforum.com. One person there has one on order so a review should be coming soon.

The pictures of the foil would visually indicate that the front wing aspect would make it designed as a race foil. If that is the case that would make it very hard to learn on, especially with a 980mm mast. The pic of the rear stabiliser attachment also looks way suspect - what's the deal with the back screw half out? It would be a great buy only if it performs as well as other more pricey options. $500 is cheap for a hydrofoil but its a lot for a winged slippery turd.

Just looking at those pics, and the obvious things are the seeming use of the LF/Naish style Alloy plate mount with mast inserted. For a 100% carbon foil this looks "different". Then the wing fixing bolts don't seat properly, the fitting joint of wing to fuselage is very rough, and the fillet joint of mast to fuselage is also looking suss.

There's two ways to look at foiling.

1. It's expensive so I must do all sorts of stuff to do it for less money.
2. It's ****ing awesome and it feels so good to have a totally sorted, professionally designed and built product.

I've done both. When I started you needed to do a fair bit of 1. because 2. wasn't really an option.

Now I've got option 2 (J Shapes) and there is no incentive at all to mess around with cheap **** stuff. The good gear is not so expensive any more and works beautifully.

Looks like a couple are on their way to oz

Await the review and i might be tempted

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wdric said..

HA, usually if you cant afford to buy it twice then you shouldnt buy cheap ;)

Thats my saying!..... i looked into it mare and its too high aspect for what i want. so no go.
There are some others on Ali baba but hmmmm not so sure about going that route.

I really like the idea of clearwater hydrofoils, who produce a wooden foil kit for you to assemble. great idea!

Another Alibaba option. Have to buy 10 to get the $338 USD advertised price.

This is a clip (me) riding the Takuma last week at Lancelin.

Pm sent.

And?

Rear wing shim



Fuselage


And underneath are the wings.




Profile looks correct



Nothing to protect against aluminium / carbon (?) reaction


Mast plate - I believe a tuttle option is available

And all the hardware.


So honestly if I didn't know, this looks like any other $1500-1700 aluminium foil I've seen.

PM me for more info, the factory has minimum order requirement for the best pricing.

Im also working on Surf focused foil board to suit this foil - interested to hear what you think. This is the prototype as far as the shape and layup go. I'm always getting asked about foil boards for customers so though I would see if we can make one locally. The layup could easily be modified for someone wanting an all carbon, lightweight construction or something more rugged.

Looks like it might be a great foil in the surf.

Hey ok so I've been receiving a million messages about this foil.....

.... and I have to say it's awesome !

I managed a quick session this arvo and it rides exactly the same as the Takuma I borrowed a few weeks ago - it's the same foil right - just black not red.

Its not for the speed demons but it's totally fine for cruising and getting a few waves. Charts say 16 knots, my buddy and I rode it with a 5m single strut Ikon prototype kite on 24m lines and had a blast. (BTW Benoit - I love that kite. )

It's super smooth, no vibration or noise, plows thru weed like it's nonexistent (so it should at 6kg) and gives good upwind and downwind performance. I probably should have ridden a 9m kite and upwind angles would have improved, at the speeds I managed today there wasn't much apparent wind created.

So if you are a wannabe foil racer stay well clear, but for everyday kiters looking for a FUN, EASY, and STRONG foil that can be surfed, kited or SUP'd this is hard to beat.

Its a keeper.

Yep, I'm in.

thanks James

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swoosh said..
You can call it a cheap chinese foils, but in reality, its likely no cheaper than what the big manufacturers are paying for their foils from the chinese factory. So are they cheap, or are the other foils overpriced?

Well said, although remember these are direct copies which means all the hard work has already been done and paid for by someone else. Other foils seem overpriced because people involved between the factory and the customers i.e. distributors and shops have to make profit before it comes to you. I also wonder what kind of warranty you would have on those if you had a defect ? James ?

Back to the review about the foil we tried with James 2 days ago. I can vouch for the build quality, it looks and feels just as strong as any other big brand name foil I've tried.

Due to the front wing being so large and wide you can foil at extremely LOW speeds (10km/h or 5-6 knots of forward speed i.e. not the wind speed but the speed you are moving at). The foil I'm used to riding for the last 3 years has a quite large front wing as well but requires double that speed (20km/h) before lifting off. By comparison, a race foil would need somewhere between 25 and 30km-h of speed before lifting off.

The foil is also very stable and incredibly easy to ride. All this makes it the SAFEST and most Progressive foil I've ever tried. For this reason we plan to use it in our foiling lessons for complete beginners.

The downside is that it's actually hard to ride with the board touching the surface of the water (i.e. without the foil lifting off), since any forward speed above 10km/h makes the foil rise up instantly. When you are learning it's important that you go through the stage of riding the board flat without the foil lifting off. It's a massive difference from any other foil I tried, you have to be very gentle with the kite and water start with as little power as possible, i.e. you will have to make some BIG adaptations from your usual water starts if you are learning to foil from scratch with this particular foil.

The other downside is that it's obviously very slow. The easiest way I can describe it is like driving with the handbrake on. I think it would be nearly impossible to go any faster than 30km/h on this foil. So even though it's an excellent beginner foil I think some might want/need something faster. It all depends what king of foiling you're into. If you are happy with having a slow foil that is easy and safe to ride, it's a great option.

Christian