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50 kn in frankston

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Created by pgc > 9 months ago, 5 Sep 2012
pgc
VIC, 886 posts
5 Sep 2012 7:29PM
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this what we had to put up with today ho hum


suniboy21
VIC, 1090 posts
5 Sep 2012 8:03PM
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What size kite was that?

pgc
VIC, 886 posts
5 Sep 2012 8:38PM
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a very under pumped 6m rebel 2012 he was doing well but the white outs were killing him . i went to rosebud early 9 am but it was out of control so i i went to franger and
caught this guy who been out on a 9 and got flogged. he did well on the six. then i headed off to green point and photoed the wind surfers. awsome . what a year of wind. tomorrow rosey and middleb late

bjw
QLD, 3620 posts
5 Sep 2012 8:49PM
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Frankston is the best place in high winds. I get's awesome. Sounds like fun. I hope you had someone to put your kite down. Im guessing crowds were not a problem.

stamp
QLD, 2770 posts
5 Sep 2012 9:19PM
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it looks like a gnarly day and full respect to the bloke kiting- but i reckon that's 30-35 knots judging from the photos. it's a fair way off 50.

RPM
WA, 1549 posts
5 Sep 2012 7:30PM
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sorry to spoil your post but that ain't 50 knots. Not even close.

Solid 30 possibly.

Kiting in 50 would require a 5 or 6 metre, if you were silly enough that is.

Underoath
QLD, 2433 posts
5 Sep 2012 9:40PM
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This is 51 knots.

I'm the one with the orange Cabribha kite 6m. I only managed 2 runs. I couldn't stay on the water.

RPM
WA, 1549 posts
5 Sep 2012 8:31PM
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Yep that was closer to 50 at mullaloo WA. You Mexicans should get a wind meter!

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
5 Sep 2012 10:53PM
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I love people who quote gusts.

dazzamuffin
WA, 48 posts
5 Sep 2012 10:38PM
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50 knots ??? i was down yesterday and today and its been no where near 50 knots . 35 ish tops .

Underoath
QLD, 2433 posts
6 Sep 2012 1:30AM
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dazzamuffin said...

50 knots ??? i was down yesterday and today and its been no where near 50 knots . 35 ish tops .


Your spot on,

This was taken on June the 9th or 10th. Crazy fronts comming over.

Can we look at historical graphs on seabreeze?

Triggerhappy
WA, 174 posts
6 Sep 2012 12:05AM
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Underoath said...

dazzamuffin said...

50 knots ??? i was down yesterday and today and its been no where near 50 knots . 35 ish tops .


Your spot on,

This was taken on June the 9th or 10th. Crazy fronts comming over.

Can we look at historical graphs on seabreeze?


It was a Sunday approx 1pm it was gusting to 51 knots at Leighton... Someone captured it on my wind gauge... Average wind mid 30s, 4 guys were out on 7 or 8 m but it was too westerly to get off the beach.

pgc
VIC, 886 posts
6 Sep 2012 3:02AM
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sorry i was only going off bureau of meteorology fawkner beacon 11.30 i figured they are the experts. maybe i was wrong??? and every one else knows better!!! i was at rosebud before that and my car got sand blasted.later i went to green point and when it is

a sheet of white u know its honking.Check out the dude going for a paddle he was flying down wind

Plummet
4862 posts
6 Sep 2012 5:42AM
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thats surely does look windy. Its pretty hard to call a wind speed from a photo. But i would call that mid 30's maybe 40. whose to say they didn't have localized gusts to 50?.... if so thats balls to the wall.

I enjoy a good storm kite session. you certainly know your alive.

morandi
VIC, 77 posts
6 Sep 2012 8:32AM
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I was at Pt Henry yesterday at 11.30 on a 7m. When that front came through it peaked at 40kts.
I was also out a couple of weeks back when the 50kts front came through, my kite did not have enough inflation and when the 50 hit, it purged forward and folded !!!

IMO Its no fun in anything over 40, strange I was still out both days though!

Beersy
TAS, 753 posts
6 Sep 2012 10:09AM
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pgc said...

a very under pumped 6m rebel 2012 he was doing well but the white outs were killing him . i went to rosebud early 9 am but it was out of control so i i went to franger and
caught this guy who been out on a 9 and got flogged. he did well on the six. then i headed off to green point and photoed the wind surfers. awsome . what a year of wind. tomorrow rosey and middleb late


Why did you leave rosebud? it was great! Tide didn't get too low and wind was perfect for a 7. Lot's of big boosting and hangtime!

bjw
QLD, 3620 posts
6 Sep 2012 10:40AM
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pgc - who cares how windy it was. It looked awesome.
You were firing out there - we were not.

laurie
WA, 3848 posts
6 Sep 2012 1:11PM
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Wow .. windy .. solid storm we had a few days ago.

FYI, there's a "Yesterday" link, and yesterdays data is always plotted up.

Check this link on the graphs/maps pages sidebar:



Here's the data from Yesterday:



Underoath
QLD, 2433 posts
6 Sep 2012 9:44PM
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Hey Laurie!

Any chance you can post the Sunday the 10th of June? - show them what a real storm looks like.

Ocean Reef.



sir ROWDY
WA, 5353 posts
6 Sep 2012 9:51PM
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So much claiming in this thread... None of you were out in 50knots and especially not on 6's and bigger.

We've had a few days on PKRA where we have to call the comp off because it's gusting to 40 or just over and professionals can't even ride on 5's...

I have experienced true 50 knots once in my life. I tried to windsurf on a 3m sail and got destroyed...
To be honest I'm sure I probably couldn't have even been holding my kite on the beach (in a U shape) let alone kiting with it.

michael r
NSW, 46 posts
7 Sep 2012 12:06AM
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Call me a pussy but i stop having fun when it gets over 30.

Gorgo
VIC, 4982 posts
7 Sep 2012 12:33AM
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You're a pussy.

Triggerhappy
WA, 174 posts
7 Sep 2012 12:26AM
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sir ROWDY said...

So much claiming in this thread... None of you were out in 50knots and especially not on 6's and bigger.

We've had a few days on PKRA where we have to call the comp off because it's gusting to 40 or just over and professionals can't even ride on 5's...

I have experienced true 50 knots once in my life. I tried to windsurf on a 3m sail and got destroyed...
To be honest I'm sure I probably couldn't have even been holding my kite on the beach (in a U shape) let alone kiting with it.


I was in South Tenerife, Canary Islands in August 2010 the wind was 35-50 knots every day for the week i was there. Everyone was out, Windsurfers, Kitesurfers, on 5,6,7 and 8m All having a blast. There was also a kite competition going on... The only people who did not enjoy it were the beginners being told to get into the ocean with waves around 4m crashing on the beach. (not really sure why they were teaching in those winds) However the wind was more constant so it is much easier to manage.

Underoath
QLD, 2433 posts
7 Sep 2012 11:08AM
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I'd take a stab in the dark and say 70% to 80% of kiters who have kited for 2 seasons could handle 50knots with a small kite.

To say that no one has makes you look like a scared pussy cat.

Spacemonkey!
SA, 2288 posts
7 Sep 2012 10:46AM
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50 kiteboarder knots- what a bunch of claimers hahaha.

Your probably the same tossers claiming the surf is about 2-3x bigger than it actually was.

Spacemonkey!
SA, 2288 posts
7 Sep 2012 10:46AM
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Underoath said...

I'd take a stab in the dark and say 70% to 80% of kiters who have kited for 2 seasons could handle 50knots with a small kite.

To say that no one has makes you look like a scared pussy cat.


Umm no your wrong, your wind estimates are way off. Most kiters can't even estimate 20 knots properly let alone 50.

I been out on a 10m before and handling it fine and other kiteboarders have claimed it to be 40 knots when I came in haha- this is you.

sir ROWDY
WA, 5353 posts
7 Sep 2012 9:19AM
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Spacemonkey! said...

Underoath said...

I'd take a stab in the dark and say 70% to 80% of kiters who have kited for 2 seasons could handle 50knots with a small kite.

To say that no one has makes you look like a scared pussy cat.


Umm no your wrong, your wind estimates are way off. Most kiters can't even estimate 20 knots properly let alone 50.


Spot on.

sir ROWDY
WA, 5353 posts
7 Sep 2012 9:28AM
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And when you say "50 knots" or any wind strength you are talking about an average wind strength... not some gust that came in once at some obscure wind observation centre on top of a hill somewhere near by... It has to be on the beach at the water level.

Plummet
4862 posts
7 Sep 2012 10:50AM
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indeed some wild claims. 8m kites in 50 knots? .... not unless your very very heavy.

I have kited once in a wind meter checked and verified against the local weather station 35-50 knots. it wasn't an average 50 knots it was peaking at 50 knots. I can tell you it is very very very very very very windy.

I had another day that i estimated at gusting to 50 but didn't have a wind meter with me. So i can't prove it. But i was well trimmed on the 6m reo. I don't even look to trim that little kite until it nudges 40 knots. on the way home the clouds were doing 100kph!


Most 1-2 season experienced people cannot fly in 40+ knots. infact they are just starting to venture into 30+ knots and that scares them ****less. I'd also state further that most kiters regardless of experience will not handle 40+ knots. its just too insane.

But for some the challenge of riding in those manic conditions is a thrill. Risk factor is huge though.

Carantoc
WA, 6650 posts
7 Sep 2012 11:03AM
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50 knots = 58 mph

Force 10 on the Beaufort

Trees snappped and uprooted and structural damage to houses and buildings

So, if it is 50 knots on a beach on the coast, on the drive home you will see some structural damage to someone's roof and at least one tree down.

If you drive home over the hill then the road will be closed to high sided vehicles.



To experience it drive down the road at 95 kmph and put you head out of the window. Now look forward and try to take a breadth and open your eyes. That is 50 knots of wind. You have to turn you head from the wind just to breathe in and your eyes water as you try to see where you are going.


Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
7 Sep 2012 1:19PM
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I've seen a 110kg experienced rider on a 7m bow kite in 40 gusting to 50 and he was having problems on his gybes because he kept getting lofted in the air. He stayed out for less than 5 minutes before he called it a day because it was too hectic.

The only thing that concerns me about people constantly quoting gusts as the wind speed they were out in is that beginners seeing the information don't understand this. They see a guy talking about riding his 12m in 30 knots and think they can launch their 12m in 25 knots gusting to 30 because its under what they think the kite is capable of.

The second thing we need to be aware of is the difference between beacons and wind speed on the beach. Some beacons are based further out in the bay and read higher wind speeds than that experienced on land. Quoting a beacon 1km out in the bay doesn't mean the wind speed on the beach is the same.



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