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Accident @ Pinnaroo

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Created by wavehogger > 9 months ago, 13 Jan 2010
waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
14 Jan 2010 11:28PM
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wavehogger said...

Conditions - 18-25 knots - side on
Pinarroo - Perth

*Post Edited*
Summary: There was a kite accident at Pinarroo - the incident was posted since safety must be our no 1 priority as kiters and also to provoke possible suggestions from concerned kiters of how to improve safety for all...and 2ndly to keep our beaches open.

AKS has now shown their character and is leading the way to improve just that - thumbs up to them!

Please support their suggestions even if it means walking a bit futher north or south of the point.


I've noticed that Wavehogger (author of this multi-page thread) has edited his initial post. ^^^
His original accident report has been slashed down to a single sentence:
"There was a kite accident at Pinnaroo." ^^^
That's it. lol.
All the details have been censored.

Kitehard promptly went into damage-control when this accident was posted.
He quickly reached for his scissors and promised to cut 5 metres off the strings to minimize power-spike from over-steer.
Then thru frustration he made empty threats to turn the Point into his private kitedragging school beach if folks didn't get out of his face.

Dude, kitesurfing is risky business.
An accident was inevitable.
My sympathies to the victim.

whatthe
WA, 186 posts
15 Jan 2010 11:21AM
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^^^Yeah, whatever WS. Maybe Wavehogger is Kitehard. They both use the word Pinaroo in their posts, its got to be the same author.

Charl dv
WA, 2485 posts
15 Jan 2010 11:39AM
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the thing is nstructors have always tried to stay as far south as possible when teaching on land as nth of the point is wind shadowed. Problem is everyone lately has decided to go right up the beach to set up.

To crispy, that extra 15 to move is not always possible as most likely another instructor is already operating up there. Remember you guys were all in their shoes within the last 2 seasons pretty much.

Haha abesy that is rich coming from the number one offender but your right.

stoff
WA, 246 posts
15 Jan 2010 12:20PM
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So am i reading this right? You are going to set aside 25m upwind and 25m downwind of the driveway, ie. 50m of beach. This seems a bit exessive for a launching/landing area. Everyone manages it now with maybe 5m of free space. Maybe just the right amount of room for teaching?!!! But surely this will be a NO TEACHING zone as well.

I'm all for setting aside a safe area for launching/ landing, but if this is just a blatant land grab for the school then you'd better get lots of those pretty new signs made up because they wont last long!

If you want a safe area for the students i'm sure no one would mind if you set aside a 50m area closer to the point. Lets face it, they all get walked up to the point backwards anyway to start bodydragging, so why not have the lessons there?

Kitehard
WA, 2782 posts
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15 Jan 2010 12:50PM
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Hi Chris,

The area we are talking about is purely for launching and landing. We will not be teaching in that area. 50m may be a bit of overkill, but we do need a nice amount of room if two kiters want to rig at the same time and to allow for someone landing at the same time.

It is not a land grab at all, this is purely for the benefit of kiters outside of the school. The school may also use the area to rig and launch, but must then, same as everyone else, once the kite is up, move to an appropriate area further south, or maybe the instructors will choose to start further upwind in the first place.

Don't worry, you aren't losing anything, just gaining a safe launch and land corridor for all to use. It also allows the guys that launch boats a clear and easy access to the water without them running over lines. Not to mention the council tractors that come and go earlier in the day before you get there. Everyone gets the grumps when their lines are run over so we are just making it better and easier for everyone to have a great day.

Perhaps a little more than the width of the driveway is all that is needed, but seeing as the width of the drive is less than 10m wide and most peoples lines are 25-30m, it seemed prudent to allow an additional margin for error.

We hope you like the changes, it will be better for all!

If you want to come and discuss the ideas that were floated at yesterdays meeting which you obviously missed, come and have a chat with me, Todd, Pezza, Tim, Zach, Paul and Adi, Caroline, Ed, or the girls teaching for us that were at the meeting. It was a unanimous decision and brought up by the pinna locals who attended the meeting, not me.

Cheers mate,

KH

nebbian
WA, 6277 posts
15 Jan 2010 1:08PM
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Hey KH,

The launch/land zone you propose is a fantastic idea.

I've been at Pinaroo setting up my kite and started walking my lines out, only to have someone dump their kite (with lines going right to the water) right in front of my face. I couldn't lay the lines out without moving their kite, it all got too hard so I packed up without flying my kite at all (then went windsurfing but that's a different story).

Having a defined launch/land zone where people MUST move their kites away from once they land is a top idea, I look forward to seeing how it works in practice.

stoff
WA, 246 posts
15 Jan 2010 1:11PM
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Thanks for clearing that up for me Darren. As long as the area is used for its intended purpose i think its a good idea and should work well.

Cheers, Chris.

Bigwavedave
QLD, 2057 posts
16 Jan 2010 1:40AM
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It's so hard to take anything waveslave says seriously when he has a dick in both ears!

Charl dv
WA, 2485 posts
15 Jan 2010 11:51PM
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Bigwavedave said...

It's so hard to take anything waveslave says seriously when he has a dick in both ears!


ZING! Winner with that call

Kitehard
WA, 2782 posts
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16 Jan 2010 12:04AM
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Hi guys,

First day of the new cleared area in front of the drive access way and although we had to keep telling a few people to move their kites out of the area, it remained clear for the best part of the whole day which made rigging and launching/landing a cinch.

I'm pretty sure everyone was happy with the results today although it's early days. I'll be printing up some flyers to hand around and make A4 posters about it over the weekend to help make sure the word gets spread across the entire pinna kiters group.

Left a message with Council so hope to hear more soon about the signage issue.

Cheers,

KH

TOAD
NSW, 305 posts
16 Jan 2010 1:53PM
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WOOHOO

GranG
WA, 257 posts
17 Jan 2010 12:58AM
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KH - sounds like a well handled (if unfortunate) incident.
Good luck. We need a competent 1:1 on school in close range to Northern beaches.

windanimal
WA, 1 posts
18 Jan 2010 4:41AM
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We have just returned to sunny, cold UK following a great holiday to WA. We spent most of our days at Pinnaroo Point with the AKS crew and local kitesurfers. We had a great time both kitesurfing and socialising with beach buddies we have befriended over the last year.

To Darren and all the guys we now know, thanks very much for all your help, encouragement and fun.

We have kited in many worldwide destinations and consider Pinnaroo Point to be a great place to kite in a safe and friendly environment, thanks to AKS; Darren, Ed and local riders. You don't travel 14,500 k for nothing!

You are all so lucky to have such a great place to kite amongst friends and professionals. Please think of us breaking the ice off our boards before getting in sub-zero seas!

We look forward to seeing you all again next season. Paul and Adi.

sebol
WA, 753 posts
18 Jan 2010 10:14AM
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Some people travel 14 500 to kite at Pinarroo??????????????
A kilometer up north, Mulaloo is way better, two rocks, lancelin, wedge, gnarloo, shark bay, esperance, yallingup....

I love how beauty is very relative, stoked that you had a great time but next time you come to WA, maybe explore the cost a bit more, you may find 1 765 893 gems.

little o
WA, 405 posts
18 Jan 2010 2:03PM
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It seems theres a lot of angry people in this forum. And there's a simple solution if you don't like whats going on at the beach.....go to a different one.

The exact reason I kite at pinaroo is because of the culture that has been created by darren and AKS. There's nothing better than going to pina having a nice kite and sitting with the locals talking and having a laugh.

In saying that I have had two incidents in a year (In that year I've kited most days in summer and at least once every two weeks in winter). One incident someone didn't check my lines and it was launched with a line over the wing tip. As soon as others saw something was wrong I had 5 people chasing my kite and 2 helping me to get it detached.

Second incident was just last week as I checked all around preparing to boost there was no one in sight. Out of no where someone came and crashed into my kite as he was overpowered. I then let him have a piece of my mind.

I've had my board saved a few times and watched the regulars save so many boards and kites. There are a lot of people who will keep watch if they see a kite down making sure the person is ok.

I have never ever had a problem with people taking lessons as I know what to look for. Red kite = stay away. A big problem seems to be assumptions. There's no one behind me, there's no one down wind if I jump, that person has the ability to stop/turn. I often experience people kiting way to close because they think they have it all under control.

Mostly I do want to say that the kite school are so careful and dedicated. Even though I stopped having lessons a long time ago they are still teaching me new tricks and improving my kiting.



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