If we all played nicley we would never have these problems, it is simple I give way to polies every time as they can't change direction as quick as we can, but when you get a dirty look because you are on the "wrong side" of the water because you just gave way to gave way to somebody else thats what I don't get...............
Lets call this what it is, for Mark-Australia, like alot of windsurfers, is just crying like a spoilt child who does not want to share his lolly bag. Didn't your Mummy never tell you to share?
It's not surprising really just one of the more unpleasant truths of human nature, the avaricious hoarding for personal pleasure. It takes a bigger man to know the pleasure of sharing.
I dare say if kitesurfing had preceded windsurfing , there would be an awful lot of kiters giving out about windsurfers overtaking 'their' spots. Kiters are just as human. Surfers have done it to windsurfers, Boogie boarders and goat boaters and then to SUPs. The same attitudes to some extent determine our feelings about refugees, migrants, muslims whatever........they are not like us so therefore we can hate them. Feudalism, tribalism, racism, it's all cut of the same cloth , just another expression of that same ugly side of human nature.
There is no intrinsic reason while kitesurfers and windsurfers cannot peaceably share a break. It works well across the world and is well demonstrated at Gnaraloo, Margies, Avalon and Dutch Inn is no exception. The rules of right of way are clear and if everyone obeys them, then life is easy
I have lived at Dutch inn for 15yrs and have windsurfed and latterly kited it enough times to know that although it is almost always better somewhere else but it has its moments and the attraction of being at home.
Frankly nothing gets up my nose more than some whingeing windsurfer telling me to go back to the kitesurfing area or vice versa if I drag out the poleboard. This is the the Wind and the Ocean and it is thank God its still free to all and windsurfers have never bought the freehold because it was never theirs to buy..simple.
See you on the water Mark Australia......... c'mon feel the love.
Although I wanted to tell him he was being an idiot and a selfish/dangerous ****, instead I politely suggested he move out a bit deeper and outta the waves to resume - so as not to stuff things for all concerned. "Grrrr[}:)]" was the peanut's response.
) get their skillz together, get educated or get a Darwin award.
I don't understand why it seems to be so difficult to get more informative sign posts put up, nevermind about council approval and just wack em on to the posts already there.
Okay, perhaps best not to piss off the council but maybe if they could see what an informative sign actually looks like they just might be able to reproduce one or approve it being put up.
And for the poor kiters who use cottesloe as a local spot, perhaps they could errect a harpoon on the groyne at the main cott beach to help the kiter's out with their self policing. In the two hours I was at the beach last week 3 kiters on downwinders could not resist coming way, waaay into the yellow flagged swimming area for a show off. >.< If one of the lifesavers decides to take photo's of these eejits, WASKA is going to have a hard time explaining them.
Really feel sorry for the kiters doing the right thing and trying to keep their beach access.
Zedd, Hoop, many thnanks for your most helpful and erudite contribitions, that will no doubt further the progress of the human race.
Trawling the Kite Forums, Eh?
Maybe planning to try the darkside. Maybe just bored
Yeah the Bloody Irish are everywhere Wal, half of Australia in fact whether they know it or not.
It's because an irishman starts his chat upline by saying to the girl 'Is there any irish in you?" and then when answered in the negative he says " Well fancy that! Would you like some!"
Nothing like a good chat upline like that to disseminate the gene pool!
The she says "Actually I'm Polish - do you have any Pole in you?"
And you end up in the emergency ward trying to explain the pool cue stuck up ya @rse!? 
Poor Niall, been this long and he still doesn't get it.
If you consistently drop in and snake people and sail/kite like an arrogant prick, you'll piss people off. Pretty simple. It's got nothing to do with kite versus windsurf.
And ease up on the academic type essays with the migrant ,racism slant .It makes you seem like even more of a tosser than you really are.
(Sorry if this post didn't further the human race)
I dropped by Dutchies tonight on my way back from kiting Leighton, the wind was yet again really patchy there and i wanted to see why there were so many more kites out at Dutchies???
The wind was definitely stronger & more consistent but boy was it busy heaps of kiters of different levels kiting approximately 200-300 metres north of the groyne and then downwind from them (further north) there were at a guess 10 poleys???
So i went in search of signage?? whats the go i thought from this post the poleys were meant to stick up by the groyne?? (south) or was it because there was a small break further north that they now have rights to that as well??
Planning to kite there soon so can someone PLEASE EXPLAIN.
There seems to me a lot more poleys on the water than last year is this just the euro invasion before they head to Lano & Corros?? I have had a few rev head poleys running the kiting channel at Leighton in the last few weeks. Take it easy guys there's heaps of ocean for all of us and i wont always be nice. [}:)]
Only problem is Zed....Your windsurfing buddy started this thread!! maybe you need to go buy him a beer
Ok this is pretty much how it has "informally" worked in the past.
Yesterday, however, pretty much all of the polies were packed into the very northern end of the generally accepted windsurf zone leaving approx 70-80 meters immediately North of the groyne empty so I took the initiative and put this vacant area to good use as there are NO hard and fast rules just common sense!
NOTE: the kite zone is a restricted area under council legisaltion you MUST be a WASKA/ASKA member to kite here see http://www.waksa.org.au/LocationGuide/Cottesloe/tabid/169/Default.aspx
^^^^ that's probably how Mark "One Nation" Australia would like to see things.
Had a charged up polie alter his (high speed) course ever so slightly last night in order to give me a not so friendly warning 
I recall Mark_australia and Zed led the "seabreeze forum" charge for having kiters banned from mullaloo and pinnas area
you guys certainly cover some ground for a sail.
