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Is it time for helmets?

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Created by wldistel > 9 months ago, 8 Mar 2012
Mr float
NSW, 3452 posts
9 Mar 2012 6:48PM
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WHAAAT, is that ur skull? Sounds like ur lucky to be around to hold it .
I remember the story of a guy around here that had the top of his skull removed when he was in an accident and his brain swelled .they removed it to allow for the swelling and were going to put it back later but lost it .

Mr float
NSW, 3452 posts
9 Mar 2012 6:50PM
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Plummet said...

i wear a helmet. its engrained into me from years of mountain biking. I have to say a helmet has saved my life about 6 times over the years. 1 time landboarding and 1 time kitesurfing.

If you think you don't need a helmet quite frankley your wrong. you just have been lucky. it only takes one fluke accident to kill you for fark you up....

any way weat one, don't wear one its your decision.

I do have a problem in the fact i can't find a decent water helmet. the gaths etc are complete and utter crap and they are stupidly expensive. I'm wearing my mountain bike helmet. I like i tool. but because i don't wear boardies outside my wettie i don't give a shiit what i look like. at least i can take a knock and kite again tomorrow.


with a name like yours it sounds like a good idea

Mr float
NSW, 3452 posts
9 Mar 2012 6:56PM
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i like those ones with the little peak that you wear bacxkwards .I alredy weigh 110 kg dry ,More weight whats the lightest > isaw a guy with a foamy bike helmet the other day .they look nice and light .

COL
NSW, 551 posts
9 Mar 2012 7:06PM
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kitingtopher said...

gath ..... keeps the sun of and the brains in. i have seen gath's split on the temple area by a recoiling rear fixed thruster fin result would have been death .... must have in my view


Of course using a legrope introduces another level of danger, so does require a rethink.
Col

COL
NSW, 551 posts
9 Mar 2012 7:20PM
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Lonestar said...


I don't think helmets should be compulsory but s%$t happens and it can have a large impact on your life...no matter how good you are.


I really don't mean any disrespect but falling off a ute is no justification for kiting with a helmut. If we had the sence to don the PPE before we go and do something stupid we probably wouldn't do it anyway.
Col

eppo
WA, 9582 posts
9 Mar 2012 6:00PM
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TurtleHunter said...

eppo said...



I', with puppet and others I hate wearing anything, and If I could kite naked and not get charged with indecent exposure I would.



I can just see you all coming up here next year kiting naked. It might be a bit much of a temptation for the turtles though





have kites exmouth naked before, when my boardies got ripped off, but that was 9 years ago, wouldn't get away with it now. Especially with all the kooks mowing the lawn. or is that lancelin...lol

toppleover
QLD, 2056 posts
9 Mar 2012 10:11PM
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Hi all, dont mean to dis anyone but most probably will - IMO this thread should be moved to the newbie section.

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
9 Mar 2012 11:27PM
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COL said...

Saffer said...

I agree with helmets but I don't believe it should be mandatory. I've always worn a helmet (agreement with my wife) but it still should be personal choice.



Luv it Saffer
It's been your choice to do what the missus told you to, so that's OK.
Only havin' a laugh, I think you've made good points.
Col


Thats fine. I'm happy to admit she wears the pants. All women do in the end, its just what we admit to our mates. She doesn't mind if I kite but t have to wear a helmet and have life insurance :) She also lets me have a motorbike (helmet rule applies with that too)

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
9 Mar 2012 11:35PM
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^^^^^^^^^^Sorry man,,but.Maybe time to ask for your balls back dude.

With ya misus keeping your balls in a jar,,might be why your so scared and safety conscious, not having your testies would have to make any man be worried and scared all the time.

waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
9 Mar 2012 9:11PM
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"Dude, I'm totally suited up in the full rubber."

"Cool Man."

"Dude, I'm clipping on the white plastic helmet."

"That's nice Man."

"Dude, I'm buckling on the impact vest real snug."

"Simply wow Man."

"Dude, I'm slipping on the gloves now."

"Want me to launch you Man?"

"Yeah Dude, next to that big gnarly rock wall."

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
10 Mar 2012 12:17AM
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^^^^Has your missus got ya by the balls as well, and your not aloud to say straight out what you think
What has happend to the Aussie blokes? No one is game to say it how it is or are too frightened of the wife.
Man up Australia.

If you want to wear a helmet,,,,wear one. Who cares what someone you dont know thinks.
If you arent allowed outside, by you missus, unless you wear a helmet,,,,you have more of a problem than bumping ya noggen on something.

waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
9 Mar 2012 9:23PM
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lol.
No pussy-whipping in my camp, fella. ^^^

waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
9 Mar 2012 9:30PM
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You don't get the whole Dude and Man thing do you loto?

lol.

TurtleHunter
WA, 1675 posts
9 Mar 2012 9:39PM
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waveslave said...



"Yeah Dude, next to that big gnarly rock wall."

and here is the problem, thank you slave.

Leroy B
WA, 139 posts
9 Mar 2012 9:52PM
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Clearly with all the comments helmets is a personal perspective thing however when bike helmets were made compulsory a few years ago there was a good argument that car drivers should be made to wear a helmet before any cyclists did because of the extensive head injuries car accidents caused their drivers and passengers.

I wonder how the probability of a head injury from kiting compares with getting a head injury from driving a car without airbags?

Jared888
WA, 389 posts
9 Mar 2012 9:53PM
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sebol said...

Another major side effect of wearing a helmet is that it appears to increase greatly your seebreeze usage.

Since 95% of people don't wear one on the water, I am impressed by the large majority of users in this thread.

Worth investigating, maybe more time on the internet = less fitness = less time on water = less skills = more prone to accidents = rightfully wear a helmet




True true i only look at fourms at work (offshore prcess facility)

WHATS UR EXCUSSE!!!! get out there and stop bitchin

terminal
1421 posts
9 Mar 2012 10:36PM
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Like the trail of blood in the sand.

kyteryder
NSW, 692 posts
10 Mar 2012 8:25AM
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I tend to use my helmet now, only for twin tipping! When boosting, and looping. when im in the waves on the surfboard, no helmet.

Otherwise if i want some gopro footage, ill strap the helmet on.

The helmet has saved me on some big wipeouts, and when i was trying kiteloops, i would certainly make sure the helmet is on.

KR

dafish
NSW, 1651 posts
10 Mar 2012 10:22AM
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Head wounds bleed the most. Even the smallest cut looks grizzly as the blood flows everywhere.
I never wear a helmet with a tt, but always when I ride a surfboard. Not long ago another rider friend who always wears a helmet came in and said, "Wow, two years of wearing this helmet and nothing has ever happened. Today the board slammed me on the head, and now I know why I wear it." This guy is a great kiter with loads of experience.
Not long after that we went out to a reef for a kite surf and it was pretty small, 2 3 foot. I got myself ready and was going to leave the helmet in the car. For some reason, at the last minute I changed my mind and put it on. Second wave of the day and I came off my board and dragged downwind with the white wash. When I came up the board slammed me on the back of the head, almost to the point of seeing stars, a real bell ringer. No helmet would have meant end of session and a few stitches, or perhaps concussion. I shook my head in gratitude and kited for another three hours. I don't use a leg rope by the way, when I come off I am happy to body drag where ever I need to go to retrieve it. Might be different if I was in Fiji or something.
Each to his own, forget about what you look like. Your riding and confidence will always set you apart. We all assess our own risks, some have more to lose than others. It is always a shame to see people get hurt, but in any sport that offers thrill and spills, it is eventually inevitable that something will go wrong. Hopefully not too wrong...

eppo
WA, 9582 posts
10 Mar 2012 1:50PM
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waveslave said...

"Dude, I'm totally suited up in the full rubber."

"Cool Man."

"Dude, I'm clipping on the white plastic helmet."

"That's nice Man."

"Dude, I'm buckling on the impact vest real snug."

"Simply wow Man."

"Dude, I'm slipping on the gloves now."

"Want me to launch you Man?"

"Yeah Dude, next to that big gnarly rock wall."






Classic! Dude and man

eppo
WA, 9582 posts
10 Mar 2012 1:51PM
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TurtleHunter said...

waveslave said...



"Yeah Dude, next to that big gnarly rock wall."

and here is the problem, thank you slave.








+1 slave

eppo
WA, 9582 posts
10 Mar 2012 1:53PM
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kyteryder said...

I tend to use my helmet now, only for twin tipping! When boosting, and looping. when im in the waves on the surfboard, no helmet.

Otherwise if i want some gopro footage, ill strap the helmet on.

The helmet has saved me on some big wipeouts, and when i was trying kiteloops, i would certainly make sure the helmet is on.

KR







can ya get a helmet for your ass - when I was learning to kiteloop all I found was water went so far up where no light shines I was as clean as a baby.

eppo
WA, 9582 posts
10 Mar 2012 1:55PM
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dafish said...

Head wounds bleed the most. Even the smallest cut looks grizzly as the blood flows everywhere.
I never wear a helmet with a tt, but always when I ride a surfboard. Not long ago another rider friend who always wears a helmet came in and said, "Wow, two years of wearing this helmet and nothing has ever happened. Today the board slammed me on the head, and now I know why I wear it." This guy is a great kiter with loads of experience.
Not long after that we went out to a reef for a kite surf and it was pretty small, 2 3 foot. I got myself ready and was going to leave the helmet in the car. For some reason, at the last minute I changed my mind and put it on. Second wave of the day and I came off my board and dragged downwind with the white wash. When I came up the board slammed me on the back of the head, almost to the point of seeing stars, a real bell ringer. No helmet would have meant end of session and a few stitches, or perhaps concussion. I shook my head in gratitude and kited for another three hours. I don't use a leg rope by the way, when I come off I am happy to body drag where ever I need to go to retrieve it. Might be different if I was in Fiji or something.
Each to his own, forget about what you look like. Your riding and confidence will always set you apart. We all assess our own risks, some have more to lose than others. It is always a shame to see people get hurt, but in any sport that offers thrill and spills, it is eventually inevitable that something will go wrong. Hopefully not too wrong...






If I was young enough to be really pushing the limits I reckon a helmet wouldn't go astray. Now I am forced to kite within myself anyhow.

richswing
WA, 724 posts
10 Mar 2012 3:29PM
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I've mentioned this before on similar threads about helmets, I was on Kite forum a couple of years ago and they had posted pictures of a guy in Brazil (I think) who got lifted into a building.

They showed him lying on the ground with a large puddle of blood around his head, I don't know if he was dead then or if he died later, but I recall that he died at the scene. The removed the pics shortly from the thread out of respect of his family and the pics where far too gruesome for public view. I think the majority would wear them if they had seen those pics.

My understanding was that he was lofted quite a distance into a building behind the promenade from the beach.

That night I ordered a helmet on the net, I am anti the new HS&E movement and believe that safety is common sense ( unless you are thick as two short planks ) unless the job is hazardous and requires procedure but pics of that scene affected me strongly ( compounded by the facts I had a new baby boy).

There's my reason.
Rich

richswing
WA, 724 posts
10 Mar 2012 3:53PM
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Don't be a pussy, wear a helmet




Or is it, Only pussies wear helmets.

Mmmm.
Rich

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
10 Mar 2012 9:23PM
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lotofwind said...

^^^^^^^^^^Sorry man,,but.Maybe time to ask for your balls back dude.

With ya misus keeping your balls in a jar,,might be why your so scared and safety conscious, not having your testies would have to make any man be worried and scared all the time.


Ever heard the saying "happy wife, happy life"? I'll wear a helmet if it keeps my wife happy and lets me kite when i want. Then there is the family consideration. I.e. I have an 18 month daughter to think about. If I was single and didn't have anyone else to worry about, my approach would be completely different which is one of the reasons why I said it should be optional.

P.S. I got 3 x new 2012 kites this year and a 2012 board, and a brand new XJ6N. Not bad for someone whose wife has their testies in a jar...

wldistel
QLD, 91 posts
10 Mar 2012 8:46PM
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Is there some room in that jar for my balls?

eppo
WA, 9582 posts
10 Mar 2012 7:08PM
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Saffer said...

lotofwind said...

^^^^^^^^^^Sorry man,,but.Maybe time to ask for your balls back dude.

With ya misus keeping your balls in a jar,,might be why your so scared and safety conscious, not having your testies would have to make any man be worried and scared all the time.


Ever heard the saying "happy wife, happy life"? I'll wear a helmet if it keeps my wife happy and lets me kite when i want. Then there is the family consideration. I.e. I have an 18 month daughter to think about. If I was single and didn't have anyone else to worry about, my approach would be completely different which is one of the reasons why I said it should be optional.






Mate I will vouch for ya. Wife two kids 4 and 5 now. My bro and I used to always charge surf in isolated spots south west coast to get away from the crowds and basic farqed up scene surfing is now. Went last long weekend and found a new spot way down a barely used 4wd track but it was bowley a little crazy but doable. But I didn't go, bro was kind of looking at me like wtf, but he has no family, no commitments, he is responsible for no one but himself. Yes I felt like a pussy but none of you blokes will get it until you are there.

Not wearing a helmet though, I always exercise common sense when kiting never had a bad accident in 12 years, but watched many others, when I knew the conditions were not right. Don't farq with the wind, respect it or it will farq with you and win.



prea
QLD, 184 posts
10 Mar 2012 9:24PM
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lotofwind said...

If I had a brain, I would wear one.


Thats funny

prea
QLD, 184 posts
10 Mar 2012 9:33PM
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Saffer said...

lotofwind said...

^^^^^^^^^^Sorry man,,but.Maybe time to ask for your balls back dude.

With ya misus keeping your balls in a jar,,might be why your so scared and safety conscious, not having your testies would have to make any man be worried and scared all the time.


Ever heard the saying "happy wife, happy life"? I'll wear a helmet if it keeps my wife happy and lets me kite when i want. Then there is the family consideration. I.e. I have an 18 month daughter to think about. If I was single and didn't have anyone else to worry about, my approach would be completely different which is one of the reasons why I said it should be optional.

P.S. I got 3 x new 2012 kites this year and a 2012 board, and a brand new XJ6N. Not bad for someone whose wife has their testies in a jar...

wldistel said...

Is there some room in that jar for my balls?


I wear a brite green wetsuit so my body can be identified
So my wife can have closure



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