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Kiters carnt do full round house cut backs

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Created by king of the point > 9 months ago, 19 Oct 2011
king of the point
WA, 1836 posts
19 Oct 2011 9:16AM
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No round house no good no figure 8 round house even ****tier




kite bags to the rescue

richierich
NSW, 226 posts
19 Oct 2011 12:22PM
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glad you can with a windsurfer or a SUP

default
WA, 1255 posts
19 Oct 2011 9:45AM
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a bit like windsurfers and barrels.

theDoctor
NSW, 5778 posts
19 Oct 2011 12:51PM
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80% of surfers can't do round house cutbacks

waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
19 Oct 2011 9:51AM
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king of the point said...

kite bags to the rescue


Kiters can do full roundhouse cutbacks.
I've seen it many times at Margs.
But not on the mainbreak, only at large Southsides.
While riding upwind going right on a twisted frontside stance,
(like a natural-foot riding right),
the rider eases the kite high and carves a big left turn back towards the curl,
and then arcs back and finishes off the ride.
It's a cool move.

driftin
WA, 60 posts
19 Oct 2011 9:56AM
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yes they can, onshore wind or really good timing.

waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
19 Oct 2011 9:58AM
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Just like this. ^^^

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
19 Oct 2011 10:00AM
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windsurfers can't carry all their equipment on their back

driftin
WA, 60 posts
19 Oct 2011 10:03AM
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rofl

waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
19 Oct 2011 10:09AM
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dusta said...

windsurfers can't carry all their equipment on their back


They usually carry it on their head. ^^^

eppo
WA, 9478 posts
19 Oct 2011 11:17AM
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Not so sure why this is posted as they are different sports and require different set of skills, with some overlap of course. But overall I tend to agree, the advanced kitesurfer is yet to match the fluidity and control of an advanced surfer.

But as far as roundhouse cutbacks, I have seen some come pretty damn close.

I do both and can honestly say they are more different than what we try and make out. But a surfer will never do what a kiter can, but I reckon the kiter will continue to bridge the gap.

I love both, as they are so different, different feels, different experience. Nothing like being still, right in the water, taking a wave and using all its power, connected to it. Yet with kiting, nothing like toeing yourself into a huge set, speed, power - exhilarating.

An advanced windsurfer still rides waves better than an advanced kiter in my opinion, especially in big surf. SUPS, well ....they have their place I suppose.

high as a kite
SA, 1312 posts
19 Oct 2011 2:36PM
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Your a bad boy KOP

Are you going to Port Linc 2012 to defend your SUP title?
Oh, by the way, your last minute training for the SUP race was GAY. Need to see more effort next time

Grumpy

king of the point
WA, 1836 posts
19 Oct 2011 2:45PM
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waveslave said...

dusta said...

windsurfers can't carry all their equipment on their back


They usually carry it on their head. ^^^




Kiters birth right






loverboy
WA, 614 posts
19 Oct 2011 3:01PM
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Hey kotp...you have some serious issues- possibly caused by too much acid and pot...you really should get some help fella

king of the point
WA, 1836 posts
19 Oct 2011 3:16PM
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You should have a look at your issues ...... tuna bait

1xouter harbour
2xdead cow cove
1xGlenelg
1xseacliff
1xwapinga
2xfar FAR west caost
1XmID WEST COAST
1XBottom west coast
1xyorks stansbary
1x midwest coast

anyones ive missed ..........happy trawling SA GREAT ....what?....... WHAT THEY COULDNT FINISH THE NUMBER PLATE
WHITE SHARK ..........not white tiger thats for shore
PUMP UP THE JAM

king of the point
WA, 1836 posts
19 Oct 2011 3:34PM
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The Roudhouse Cutback: a history
The roundhouse cutback has always been one of my favorite maneuvers in surfing. That may be because I came of age during the 80's, the heyday of the true roundhouse. This display of acrobatics and power began its rise under the direction of pro surfing heroes like Rabbit Bartholemew, Mark Richards, and Shawn Thompson, but to the tune of the Talking Heads and Hoodoo Gurus and in the age of mullets and Reagan, it became the move of choice among the world's top pros.
If you were a surfer after 1979, you marveled at freaks like Richard Cram and Martin Potter who sculpted perfect figure-eights with force and precision. Underground shredder Dave Parmenter dragged his hand and stood firm-footed as he richocheted back into the power section. For me though, it was Tom Curren who set the bar. His slithering slice of rail-burying perfection gave no hint of wasted movement. His roundhouse gave me a tingle inside…Sorry, I hope I'm not freaking you out, but I do love a good cutback.

While the roundhouse seemed to fall out of cool during the 90's and surfers opted to lay back and spin out in one spasmodic motion and thus squandering forward momentum, Kelly Slater, Taylor Knox, and others have, however, carried the torch into today's surfing era of function and flare. Now, the roundhouse cutback is once again planted firmly in surfing's repertoire.

neilw
WA, 134 posts
19 Oct 2011 3:40PM
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Obviously cut and paste kop. Made way to much sense to be coming from you. Been on the turps again??

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
19 Oct 2011 6:47PM
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Im tying to work out why he is so worried if kiters can or can not??

Maybe he has suddenly realised how restricted he is on the sail boat and is finally confident enough in the water to progress to kitesurfing?

king of the point
WA, 1836 posts
19 Oct 2011 3:54PM
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Lofty any thing to improve the pain of watching your riding

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
19 Oct 2011 5:56PM
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Mr float
NSW, 3452 posts
19 Oct 2011 7:22PM
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^^^^^

Classic

king of the point
WA, 1836 posts
19 Oct 2011 4:27PM
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Show us a ****n figure round house cut back TROLL with spray and ice of your rails and rainbows for me to see.
or what ???

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
19 Oct 2011 7:34PM
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The shrooms have kicked in. He's seeing rainbows.
Say NO to drugs kids or you may end up like this in your senior years
I feel sorry for his poor fried brain.

king of the point
WA, 1836 posts
19 Oct 2011 4:58PM
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your possessed



dusta
WA, 2940 posts
19 Oct 2011 5:11PM
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king of the point said...

your possessed






you're



Skwinty
WA, 164 posts
19 Oct 2011 5:31PM
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King of his own lunchbox Havent seen you in the kiters forum for a while....

Here's a little pic for ya.... That's you - second bloke from the right hand side
No doubt -It'll take you a minute or 2 to work it out.... but keep looking and you'll get the idea




kyteryder
NSW, 692 posts
19 Oct 2011 9:35PM
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K.O.T.P, even in 2005, their was talk of the roundhouse. Give it a bit of time it will happen.

kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2340235&p=455294


Kt

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
19 Oct 2011 9:40PM
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In the mean time,KFTP
lets talk about he world speed record
Thoughts??

tgladman
WA, 500 posts
19 Oct 2011 9:25PM
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K.o.t.p. lay off the crack. And wipe your mouth, your dribbling a little.

SaveTheWhales
WA, 1874 posts
19 Oct 2011 9:41PM
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geez - tough mob... did someone accidently do a MegaLoop off a surfers wave with his buttcrack or cutback showing ??

Joe Cron
NSW, 450 posts
20 Oct 2011 9:54AM
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As someone said above, kiting isn't surfing and no, in all but a few, rare wind/swell direction combinations, anything resembling a full surfing roundhouse cutback can't be done on a kite.

Yes, a true roundhouse cutback is awesome, not one where any straight lines destory the figure eight, but one that is done as an initiating turn, and then another bouncing off the foam or right in the slot. Done on a single fin the feeling and drive is incredible. Backside, the second turn is a filthy re entry going back on itself.

Do we need to begin on all the things that can be done on a kite that can't be done on a surfboard?

Skate through the impact zone in 0.3 seconds without paddling once.

Fly over the top of waves instead of losing ground in a duck dive.

Fly.

Line the shore with awestruck spectators. (These days are long gone for 'billabongised' surfing.)

Use a wave as a ramp to boost 30 ft in the sky. (Theoretically, if you could paddle fast enough, however the landing would be hard.)

Make sections that wouldn't be comtemplated on anything else but a jet ski.

Etc, etc, etc, etc.

Is it true you ride a SUP kotp? Each to their own but personally, as I tell my mates that sweep the ocean, what is the difference between a stand up goat boat and a sit down goat boat.

I would love to see you, or anyone do a full figure 8 roundhouse cutback on your SUP and bounce it off the foam, that would be a f#@king awesome sight.

Let me know when you have it wired and I'll come and watch.



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