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Losing the passion

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Created by graceful > 9 months ago, 9 Feb 2012
gesper
NSW, 517 posts
10 Feb 2012 9:20PM
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^^^ +1 Its great to do both kitesurfing and windsurfing

Mr float
NSW, 3452 posts
10 Feb 2012 9:27PM
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perhaps you can find your mojo in the wind that is forcast to grace you for the next week .take some time off and go to a decent spot without crowds and some good waves .Borrow or demo a mutant and see how you go .
Alternately take a closer look at those that are disabled in some way and can never do what we do .it gives a new perspective .

puppetonastring
WA, 3619 posts
10 Feb 2012 6:28PM
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GreenPat said...

graceful said...


Coming from the guy that's been riding the same gear for how many years now pat? Haha


Touché. Point conceded.

It's the 8 year anniversary of my first lessons this month (and my mid size kite is almost 5 years old now).


Wot about that honking new, crispy clean, ocean ripping RPM your personal Santa bought you

Intheozone
WA, 247 posts
10 Feb 2012 7:59PM
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Buy one of these. I just got one. It is awesome.


This was my first time racing on Australia day



There are a couple for sale in WA from as little as $6000

s313
6 posts
10 Feb 2012 8:04PM
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I also had/have this issue - been kiting for 15 years now (!).

I reached a plateau of sorts with kiting, where if I wanted to progress (i.e. keep things interesting), I would have had to take more risks. Frankly, I've already had my share of injuries and related visits to the hospital, so progressing to that "next level" was not an option to keep things alive.

And so, after 10 years of only kiting and no windsurfing (my background), decided to get back into pole-boarding. Oh no not windsurfing!!

Now, I mix both sports up, depending on conditions. But to be honest, I salivate more at the prospect of wave-sailing clean waves, with a 25+ knot side-off wind, than looping around with a 9 metre kite in flat water. The truly epic windsurf days are far few and in between, which is one reason why things are more exciting with the pole when conditions are at the table. Whereas with kiting, we get heaps (relatively speaking) of kite-able days on flat or chop; the end result being monotony due to a routine of same tricks/jumps/etc.

On the flip side, would much rather charge around with the kite in any flat water conditions, than pole it. Windsurfing in flat water is about as exciting as watching paint dry, whereas with the kite, it can be awesome.

By alternating sports, depending on the conditions, the resulting variety is the key which has worked (for me) to keep kiting alive.

Craig66
NSW, 2455 posts
10 Feb 2012 11:25PM
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Oris said...

Firstly we need to change your name Graceful.

Secondly you need to attempt things you haven't done.

Like jump a pier, remove your safety gear, kite in thunderstorms etc.

Good luck Graceful.


Agree, thunderstorm smashed Newcastle this afternoon, most of the other guys saw the lightning before i did and went in.
Oh well, there loss

PS, not all about the time on the water for me, catching up with the local crew, helping, watching, laughing at (or being laughed at) swaping kites and boards, beers after etc.

Freddofrog
WA, 522 posts
11 Feb 2012 8:11AM
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Intheozone said...

Buy one of these. I just got one. It is awesome.


This was my first time racing on Australia day


There are a couple for sale in WA from as little as $6000



dumb question but what are they called, looks huge fun!

djdojo
VIC, 1607 posts
11 Feb 2012 12:02PM
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^^^ Looks like another annoying petrol-head ego machine.

Losing the stoke on kiting is unlikely to be resolved by an "armaments race" of more, and more involved, toys. Make the pleasures simpler, rather than more complicated.

For me kiting is as much about an elegant engagement with the forces of nature (working with them, and getting spanked if I go against them) as it is about putting notches in some conformist macho progression belt. Sure I like to learn new stuff, but not to compare myself to some generic standard, and the satisfaction of nailing a new trick is a very different stoke to simply being out on the water in great conditions at sunset, especially in a beautiful spot, free from the whine of internal combustion engines.

P.S. I love that I can get red thumbed for quoting Victor Frankl; I mean what would he know about happiness? He only survived a few years in Nazi concentration camps while his family were killed and then went on to become one of the more profound psychologists and psychotherapists of the 20th century...

... still, for those who are curious I recommend his books Man's Search for Meaning, and The Will to Meaning.

kitelooper1
112 posts
11 Feb 2012 9:31AM
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djdojo said...

^^^ Looks like another annoying petrol-head ego machine.

/i]


How very intolerant of you Sensei.

I will throw my hat in with the majority of the wisest men - there is a Suprameaning.

KiteSUP
QLD, 51 posts
12 Feb 2012 12:22AM
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go get the 05 fuel out of the attic, you know the one with only 1" movement on the bar, so no depower when you let go and get out there when it's blowing hard.
You will get the rush that people who have only flown the new style kites will never understand and you will learn to edge all over again.
You may even get some new scars

eppo
WA, 9478 posts
12 Feb 2012 2:55PM
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Freddofrog said...

Intheozone said...

Buy one of these. I just got one. It is awesome.


This was my first time racing on Australia day


There are a couple for sale in WA from as little as $6000



dumb question but what are they called, looks huge fun!





This is a thunder cat right, popular on the eastern states. They are really fun and really intense.

blueseas
QLD, 55 posts
12 Feb 2012 8:04PM
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Variety is the spice of life, maybe try something different for a while - like one of those skateboard things that you have to wobble back and forth to go, or maybe some extreme gardening, like cultivating plants with spikes and poisonous sap... Before kiting I skydived, and after a couple years and tens of thousands of dollars started to really get over it, started kiting and got that rush back - sometimes you need a change duuuude.... Good luck finding your mojo

brady
TAS, 450 posts
13 Feb 2012 3:26PM
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Agree with most of the posts so far - variety is where it's at. But variety in kiting does it for me, not variety in sports

Much as I love visiting places with regular seabreezes, I find I get in a rut, not progressing, not enjoying it.

While you'd never move to Tassie specifically for the kiting, I've never enjoyed it as much anywhere else. It is always a geuss where and when the wind will be on, nt two days are the same. I get more stoke now than any time in the past 8 years.

And the social aspect of kiting is important too. Great crew here, and never crowded. So much better than my time in Adelaide or Perth - where I'm sure the crew was great, but so big it was hard to get the same social vibe

niall barrett
WA, 248 posts
13 Feb 2012 1:28PM
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Interesting topic.

The consensus seems to be that with kiting, as with life. the key to enduring satifaction is a sense of a continuing journey.

For many it has been surfing or windsurfing that has led them to kiting. The initial vigour of steep learning curve has plateaued. The consistency of summer conditions in Perth reinforces the sense of ennui. What to do?

Explore new possibilities:

Try racing.

If you have been seduced by the ease of use of a bow style kite, I suggest you get on a hyper-responsive wave kite on short lines. You will realise that you have been kiting with a truck all these years when you actually wanted a ferrari.

If your'e a wave rider, consider putting the straps back on and putting some oomph back in your riding. Once you master aerials off the lip you open the door to potential dozens of aerial manoeuvres as part of your wave ride. Nice too think you could do them strapless but were not all Mitu Moneiro.

Try travelling. If you are in Perth remember South coast WA has awesome set ups all over the place many never kited before. Get your mates together for a long weekend with a tent and a 4WD. Look out for each other. You could be the first you will never know but you will have the joy of discovery.

Put your kite on the plane and travel further afield. An Aussie dollar goes a long way elsewhere. Tassie, Peru, vietnam, Greece. Anywhere with wind after and waves in fact.

Remember that You have only just opened the door. A whole world of kiting possibilities lies ahead.

Oris
WA, 127 posts
13 Feb 2012 2:22PM
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Pugwash said...

Try this... Should keep you interested:

Reflex Films said...


Everyone smashes it or gets smashed in this one

If you are sensitive to "the cruelty of nature" - might be best to avoid this one










This is a Wind Surfing Vid- Jesus pugwash, Graceful is already depressed with life, you dont want to give him a reason to end it.

GreenPat
QLD, 4083 posts
13 Feb 2012 4:24PM
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puppetonastring said...


Wot about that honking new, crispy clean, ocean ripping RPM your personal Santa bought you


That's my small kite, and it's very nice.

Oris
WA, 127 posts
13 Feb 2012 7:47PM
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teabaggin said...

^^^ +1 Its great to do both kitesurfing and windsurfing


Since when.

Peterc150
VIC, 710 posts
14 Feb 2012 12:26AM
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I am loving my recreational raceboard (Sector 60). You can go touring upwind in flash then come hooting back downwind. Gybing is a challenge to learn too. Its opened up another dimension in this fantastic sport.

If you haven't tried a Sector 60, borrow one and see if it lights your fire.

Variety is the spice of life - and kitesurfing.

onemorehuey
NSW, 158 posts
14 Feb 2012 10:05PM
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I disagree with every post above.
It is your right to call it quits and if you want to you should feel free to.
I would also urge about 1000 other people who regularly visit botany bay to do the same. Ask yourself - is it really that good anymore?
Ps if youve got some nice gear pm me and I can take it off ur hands:)

sweetriffs
QLD, 28 posts
14 Feb 2012 10:41PM
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Mate everyone gets the blues. Hobbies, relationships, whatever - only the lucky are eternally content.
My advice?
Push it a bit but don't force anything for too long. I have played guitar for 20 years. Every now and then I get a 'plateau' where I can't seem to improve and my enthusiasm plummets. But lucky for me I get it back. Not so with scuba diving. I was a PADI instructor for 10 years. Hell I dived some wicked places and then day by day it just seemed to leech away from me. The enthusiasm. I haven't dived for 3 years. But I got into kite surfing. Ain't life strange?
Same with my bro who was a hang glider. One day he just walked away ... but he got into Harleys.

Moral?

Doesn't matter what you do ... just keep into life!

Andrash
WA, 637 posts
14 Feb 2012 10:54PM
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....some (long) years ago I found this problem with some mates: what's next....? higher, longer, more spin..etc..........eventually there is a plateau dictated and limited by your physical body... a limit which not always extends by the "latest model" of kites..... yes, I was stuck for some time too... then something happened:
I gave up trying to do new tricks every year... instead I tried to enjoy the same old tricks more and more every year....
The results were:
1) I had more fun every year
2) I have been fitter every year (with only very minor injuries)
3) I have been reminded in increasing frequency every year that my smiles are getting ridiculously wide, and my constant giggling is getting annoying for those who take life seriously....
for me the fun started at the end of my ego games....

Oris
WA, 127 posts
15 Feb 2012 9:23AM
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Andrash said...

....some (long) years ago I found this problem with some mates: what's next....? higher, longer, more spin..etc..........eventually there is a plateau dictated and limited by your physical body... a limit which not always extends by the "latest model" of kites..... yes, I was stuck for some time too... then something happened:
I gave up trying to do new tricks every year... instead I tried to enjoy the same old tricks more and more every year....
The results were:
1) I had more fun every year
2) I have been fitter every year (with only very minor injuries)
3) I have been reminded in increasing frequency every year that my smiles are getting ridiculously wide, and my constant giggling is getting annoying for those who take life seriously....
for me the fun started at the end of my ego games....


Are drugs involved here.

wal269
WA, 718 posts
15 Feb 2012 2:29PM
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Never thought I would say it but +1 on losing the stoke.

Add an 8 week injury in the middle of a season that never really started.

It's that biatch La Nina. If we had a year of epic waves between Esperence and Indo, then everyone would be loved up again.

Key is to keep the skills up to the wind and swells start pumping again (hopefully by next year - or I might have to become a lifesaver).

Andrash
WA, 637 posts
15 Feb 2012 5:32PM
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Oris said...

Andrash said...

....some (long) years ago I found this problem with some mates: what's next....? higher, longer, more spin..etc..........eventually there is a plateau dictated and limited by your physical body... a limit which not always extends by the "latest model" of kites..... yes, I was stuck for some time too... then something happened:
I gave up trying to do new tricks every year... instead I tried to enjoy the same old tricks more and more every year....
The results were:
1) I had more fun every year
2) I have been fitter every year (with only very minor injuries)
3) I have been reminded in increasing frequency every year that my smiles are getting ridiculously wide, and my constant giggling is getting annoying for those who take life seriously....
for me the fun started at the end of my ego games....


Are drugs involved here.




Yes, they are called ENDORPHINS. Few hundred times more potent than heroin...

Oris
WA, 127 posts
15 Feb 2012 5:48PM
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Andrash said...

Oris said...

Andrash said...

....some (long) years ago I found this problem with some mates: what's next....? higher, longer, more spin..etc..........eventually there is a plateau dictated and limited by your physical body... a limit which not always extends by the "latest model" of kites..... yes, I was stuck for some time too... then something happened:
I gave up trying to do new tricks every year... instead I tried to enjoy the same old tricks more and more every year....
The results were:
1) I had more fun every year
2) I have been fitter every year (with only very minor injuries)
3) I have been reminded in increasing frequency every year that my smiles are getting ridiculously wide, and my constant giggling is getting annoying for those who take life seriously....
for me the fun started at the end of my ego games....


Are drugs involved here.




Yes, they are called ENDORPHINS. Few hundred times more potent than heroin...



It was just the constant giggling that sounded suss.

terminal
1421 posts
15 Feb 2012 6:44PM
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Just remind yourself that the purpose is to have fun.

Oris
WA, 127 posts
15 Feb 2012 10:08PM
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terminal said...

Just remind yourself that the purpose is to have fun.




I want to have fun but I don't think its possible in a dress.

I like this guy but I am afraid this video is going to
play with his mind for years to come.

Intheozone
WA, 247 posts
16 Feb 2012 12:08PM
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Freddofrog said...

Intheozone said...

Buy one of these. I just got one. It is awesome.


This was my first time racing on Australia day


There are a couple for sale in WA from as little as $6000



dumb question but what are they called, looks huge fun!


Called Thundercats. in Perth check out. www.westcoastthundercats.com.au

Actually compliments kite surfing as we use it as a safety boat on long down winders. also to get out to Rottnest island for kitesurfing away from the masses. Have also used it as dive tender to go Scuba diving off. not to mention the fun of jumping through waves.

zzzzz
WA, 57 posts
16 Feb 2012 10:02PM
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sweetriffs

Yngwie Malmsteen is for you when you plateau guitar

Oris
WA, 127 posts
16 Feb 2012 10:22PM
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zzzzz said...

sweetriffs

Yngwie Malmsteen is for you when you plateau guitar

True story, taken out twice this year by the same kiter.



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