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Mullaloo Beach Mgmt Plan results!!!!

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Created by WAKSA > 9 months ago, 11 Sep 2010
pharro
WA, 89 posts
14 Sep 2010 9:05AM
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I've also sent my emails to council and will be there to support.
There were such good numbers the other week at Rylands movie premiere, it was great to see such support for one of our own. (Great work too.)
I hope the same numbers of support are shown for this.

Bigwavedave
QLD, 2057 posts
14 Sep 2010 11:15AM
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Bigwavedave said...

Stop publishing the poor CEO's email on this forum!!

He'll get spammed so bad now.

Legitimate emails are ok but don't set the poor bugger up for trolling programs.


My point was that nefarious websites troll forums for email addresses and then spam them with sh1t.

If you gonna post someones email publicly here, use the word 'at' instead of @

Last thing you need is to get CEO offside because he/she now receives porn/viagra emails!!!

seafever17
WA, 360 posts
14 Sep 2010 9:19AM
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Hi ***

Thanks for your email and taking the time to express your opinion in relation to the Beach Management Plan. There are a wide variety of issues that has raised considerable interest including kite surfing. At this stage no decision has been made and it is ultimately a determination for Council to make as to what it believes is in the best interests of the community, taking into consideration the feedback received from the public consultation and comments made during that process.

Yours
Troy


The above is the response I received from the Mayor of Joondalup to an email voicing my "ahem" displeasure at the councils intention to pursue the extended option 2 scenario. I hope,as Mayor Pickard states that "At this stage no decision has been made " is true and the combined efforts of all metropolitan area kiters will lead them to the realisation that the nigh on total ban will not work and is not in the best interests of anyone including the ellected officials.

Let them Know that you are upset about the proposal. Squeeky wheel gets the grease as we know and have had demonstrated to us by the fact this proposal is even on the cards.

P.S I emailed the Mayor yesterday and had a reply at 7 o.clock this morning. Good on him.

puppetonastring
WA, 3619 posts
14 Sep 2010 12:18PM
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wishy said...

Whoever it was that posted those photos should bring them along. It is important that the council understands that when it's blowing 20 knots sand is stinging your legs and if you're lying down your eyes will be filling with sand.
A lot of people don't even know what windsurfing and kitesurfing are because they are playing computer games and eating nachos because 'it's horrible outside'


Rob Gannon (Kiteboarding Perth), in his official submission, provided a whole series of shots taken in a day-to-day sequence at (I think) 4:00 pm everyday for a whole season. These pics showed deserted, or all-but deserted, beaches every single seabreeze day.
This and other information which is now apparently being totally ignored in the submission process is incomprehendable.
I am sure an appeals court will not be as selectively biased.

tightlines
WA, 3477 posts
14 Sep 2010 1:59PM
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wishy said...

Whoever it was that posted those photos should bring them along. It is important that the council understands that when it's blowing 20 knots sand is stinging your legs and if you're lying down your eyes will be filling with sand.

A lot of people don't even know what windsurfing and kitesurfing are because they are playing computer games and eating nachos because 'it's horrible outside'

One thing also worth stressing is that kiters are not the same crowd as for example dirtbike riders. I have met people aged 12-65 engineers, doctors, lawyers, it guys, chefs, teachers, builders, electricians, investment bankers, sailors, - men women children etc


I did sent those photo's off in an email to the CEO, Mayor and Councillors and as PuppetOAS has stated Rob Gannon submitted a heap of photo's.

One of the most sensleless things (if a ban goes ahead) is that for most of the time people are kiting the beach is deserted.

I am a shift worker so I generally have weekdays off and kite all year round (weather permitting), I can tell you that often in the middle of winter I can be out for hours and not see another soul on the beach.

It would be totally ludicrous to apply a 24/7 year round ban.

puppetonastring
WA, 3619 posts
14 Sep 2010 2:14PM
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Yep to all of that TL
And the concept of seasonal or weather related usage guidelines has never even been mentioned anywhere in any of the decision making process.
A 24/7 ban of the whole beach is just not on.

puppetonastring
WA, 3619 posts
14 Sep 2010 2:33PM
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What staggers me here is that they go to all the trouble of running a public comment/survey campaign.
They get a clear indication that (no mattter who counts) more than 2/3rds of residents are in favour of kiting being allowed at Nth Mullaloo
Then they come back with a recommendation to council for an "option 2" which recommends a total ban of kiting even though that most extreme of extreme options was not even among the options offered for comment in the survey.

Given that the survey was technically flawed to begin with anyhow* just how is an outcome like that possible?

* those who have any background in statistics will have noticed that the main question relating to your choice of options for kiting was a classic case of "have you stopped beating your wife yet". A much touted joke in stats lectures.
This is why WAKSA had trouble recommending an appro option. Whatever option you chose could be taken as being anti-kiting.

You just have to wonder who is pulling the strings at Joondalup.
It makes being prepared to be reasonable very difficult.

tightlines
WA, 3477 posts
14 Sep 2010 3:05PM
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Yep it certainly does make you wonder who is behind it all, I mentioned the fact that the survey was a little 'confusing' in my email, it seemed to be slanted towards getting the answers they wanted, guess we will find out if some of the Councillors are deserving of your alias or not POAS.



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