Baa haa haa youve finally learnt to put a tear example, doms and recovery together - Legendary 
Select to expand quoteSaveTheWhales said..
Baa haa haa youve finally learnt to put a tear example, doms and recovery together - Legendary
Another fantastic response.
Select to expand quotekitebt said...SaveTheWhales said..
Baa haa haa youve finally learnt to put a tear example, doms and recovery together - Legendary
Another fantastic response.
Yes kitebt - I gave up on helping scientific quoting people pull their heads out.
Do your own Research - think outside the Square.
So you dont have to wait for it to appear online like other Sheeple 
Select to expand quoteSaveTheWhales said..kitebt said...SaveTheWhales said..
Baa haa haa youve finally learnt to put a tear example, doms and recovery together - Legendary
Another fantastic response.
Yes kitebt - I gave up on helping scientific quoting people pull their heads out.
Do your own Research - think outside the Square.
So you dont have to wait for it to appear online like other Sheeple
Another fantastic response....the most interesting thing to me is you have offered nothing in the last 5 posts. All you can say is "open your mind" and stop copying. I would not copy you in a pink fit. I don't think you know your arse from your elbow.
Hmmm and mr textbook copied what I originally wrote - yes keep opening that mind of yours - the Earths not flat anymore
www.theaustralian.com.au/nocookies?a=A.flavipes
Core, planking, rigidity. Not ideal for most people.
Save the whales.. Doms is a very different pathology to a tear. Your comparison is nonsensical.
Kite bt. Some great info. Thanks.
Kezzak - OMFG of course it is !
Now please use your, oh so great knowledge to tell us who is going to recover faster from Doms.
The trained person
Or
Joe public ?
Select to expand quoteSaveTheWhales said..
Kezzak - OMFG of course it is !
Now please use your, oh so great knowledge to tell us who is going to recover faster from Doms.
The trained person
Or
Joe public ?
You really need to go and see a therapist to sort out your narcissism.
From my experience of working with athletes which I did for the first 10 years of my career they are less likely to get DOMS. However, if they do get DOMS from training in a new way or mixing their training up and hitting muscles in a way they had never hit them before the recovery from DOMS is about the same as joe public.
Once again you have added nothing to this thread other than a narcissistic dummy spat. Nice one Kermit!
Doms, fatigue related muscle disorders, and tears although distinctly different pathologies, all settle in time. Normal pathophysiology dictates a minimum healing time. Healing cannot be sped up.
It can however be slowed down by doing the wrong thing. Public versus athlete may vary in healing times not because of the person themselves, but the timely advice and acute management.
So back to the thread topic. For muscle injuries in kiting and other sports, get assessed by a health practitioner who has extensive training in assessment and management of injuries.
Pheew, nothing like a bit of Muppet rage while theres no wind 
While Mr Qualified Kitebt and Kezza are blowin smoke up each other.. I had a funny feeling somethings professionally amiss ?
Kitebt said 'Quote'
Stretching does not shorten the cycle of recovery from DOMS which is another myth perpetuated from uninformed Personal Trainers..
Kezza said 'Quote'
From my experience of working with athletes which I did for the first 10 years of my career they are less likely to get DOMS.
and thats where the Professional curtain falls..
I'll stay with the simple advice that has worked not only for my Re-hab clients... but for the athletes that Ive also trained to win state,national and World championships
For the average kiter -Just remember to do either of these two stretches, if Nothing else. It'll Potentially save you from what Jeena and many others have had..
Select to expand quoteSaveTheWhales said..
Pheew, nothing like a bit of Muppet rage while theres no wind
While Mr Qualified Kitebt and Kezza are blowin smoke up each other.. I had a funny feeling somethings professionally amiss ?
Kitebt said 'Quote'
Stretching does not shorten the cycle of recovery from DOMS which is another myth perpetuated from uninformed Personal Trainers..
Kezza said 'Quote'
From my experience of working with athletes which I did for the first 10 years of my career they are less likely to get DOMS.
and thats where the Professional curtain falls..
I'll stay with the simple advice that has worked not only for my Re-hab clients... but for the athletes that Ive also trained to win state,national and World championships
For the average kiter -Just remember to do either of these two stretches, if Nothing else. It'll Potentially save you from what Jeena and many others have had..
You are a walking contradiction Kermit. It is clear you have zero knowledge of the topic area you are claiming to be advising others on. Nor can you read. I posted both of those quotes and you have taken them both out of context.
I just hope you do not charge Joe Public for your services or someone might come to see you with something as benign as DOMS and walk away thinking they have a muscle tear based on your expert diagnoses to which you will give them a couple of stretches. They will come back next time they see you and say the pain has gone away and you will claim a miracle to your training techniques.
You have posted two stretches here that effectively stretch exactly the same muscle groups in exactly the same way. One is just a little more vigorous than the other. You very clearly should not have thrown those text books away and opened your mind because there is not much between your ears.
Pretty sure the original poster left the building some time ago... why don't you guys just troll each other via PM?
Kitebt - ooh sorry bit of wifi lag on the mb with that one but none the less... I'll repaste it for you..
Kitebt said 'Quote'
Stretching does not shorten the cycle of recovery from DOMS which is another myth perpetuated from uninformed Personal Trainers..
Kitebt said 'Quote'
From my experience of working with athletes which I did for the first 10 years of my career they are less likely to get DOMS. End quote.
Which idiot are You?
The perpetuated one below or the one who says stretching doesnt help recovery !
People take the easy road remember !
And I indeed posted 2 pics the same stretch, clever of you to notice that not everyone has a fitball handy :)
And yes in reality - 1 person might do what we said combined on here and follow it year round..
Thats why theres a simple posted stretch thats sports specific for kiteboarding Joe Public - if they do nothing else
Select to expand quoteSaveTheWhales said..
Kitebt - ooh sorry bit of wifi lag on the mb with that one but none the less... I'll repaste it for you..
Kitebt said 'Quote'
Stretching does not shorten the cycle of recovery from DOMS which is another myth perpetuated from uninformed Personal Trainers..
Kitebt said 'Quote'
From my experience of working with athletes which I did for the first 10 years of my career they are less likely to get DOMS. End quote.
Which idiot are You?
The perpetuated one below or the one who says stretching doesnt help recovery !
People take the easy road remember !
And I indeed posted 2 pics the same stretch, clever of you to notice that not everyone has a fitball handy :)
And yes in reality - 1 person might do what we said combined on here and follow it year round..
Thats why theres a simple posted stretch thats sports specific for kiteboarding Joe Public - if they do nothing else
This will be my last post on this thread. For anyone who wishes to follow the advice of this narcissist who makes outlandish claims without any sound sceintific basis, thinks that a majority of the world are "muppets" and treats "Joe Public" like idiots because how dare anyone know more than he does and challenge his thinking. Please maintain an open mind because you will need one if you follow his advice.
If anyone would like to understand more about DOMS the mechanics of kiting or would like a good overall conditioning program for kiting please feel free to PM me. I won't post exercises and such on forums such as these because I understand the human body and how that everyone is different and that one size does not fit all when it comes to stretching and conditioning.
Yes kitebt
Your the Professional idot who said post exercise stretching doesnt work for general public...
I'll arc up Every time someone says this - because it serves No useful purpose except undermine and injure people.
Outlandish claims - I'm not the only one who recomends an alternative to the Book - nerve triggering program...
its called Research, try it - it might help you when someone presents themselves with a limb that doesnt move..
I hope you dont show them the text book quote that says nothing can be done
Select to expand quotejennavzla said..
Hi guys,
Recently I've had quite a full on boosting session during which I felt like I ripped my lower ab muscle (haven't checked with a doctor yet). It is really quite painful.
Anyone else had a similar issue? My theory is that I was practising some jumps without using a proper pop and thus relying too much on pulling my legs up and throwing the kite to 12 in order to jump.
Appreciate any feedback from this.
Hello jennavzla. I know what you mean. Usually I get these ab muscles pain when I have not kited for at least a week, and I can feel my sourness the next day for few days. But it rarely happens because I kite almost every day. This also happens when you have not surfed for a while and get soar pain on your shoulders the next day.
So my suggestion will be to do some ab exercises 3 to 4 times a week. The best one for these types of muscles will be to use the LEG RAISE STATIONARY machine (see picture). The one where you have your back against the wall using a machine and bring your legs towards your chest.
Do this exercise and you won't have a problem next time you go kiting.
