Save our Broadwater

Maybe read it and understand it before you protest it. It won't affect KFC or any spots close by, it will however create thousands of jobs for unemployed Gold Coasters, so your choice, more jobs or one less place to sail past........

^^ and provide one more place to send your Australian dollars overseas.
You're the one who obviously needs to read it m8.

It's nowhere near KFC, and the employers being from overseas has nothing to do with job creation on the Gold Coast, that's a different topic all together, if someone in Australia wants to man up and fund it then great, if they don't then I would rather have the jobs than not.......

I say built it, if you choose to live on the Gold Coast,

you can expect to have huge developments like this,

there are highrises and skyscrapers everywhere

It is only a matter of time before development in some shape or form starts on the Broadwater

the Gold Coast is the 6th largest city in Oz

The Goldy is the Las Vagas of Australia

This development would create 100s or possibly 1000s of jobs

There is going to be heaps of big developments starting up over the next 12 months

If you dont like it, move, I did, I used to live on the Goldy, but not anymore

Goldy is a great place to spent some time

But I would not want to live there

And Im sure there would be 1000s of people

who would love the oppurtunity to work

God I may even move back to work for a bit during Winter when the wind is scarce

But then again........ probably not

this will kill the family friendly enviroment of this part of the gold coast. it will end up turning the whole place into an extended version of surfers. seriously keep the casinos and clubs and all that crap in surfers. keep the junkies and drunks up there too. and the ship thing. oh my god i cant even believe somebody even came up with that idea. but your right if you dont like it move on. thats what im doing. its sad tho because i really love where i live. so if i leave now ill always remember it as a good place.

Fact is, at KFC, we get kite enthusiasts from all over Australia and the world here who froth on our little spot at Loders Creek.

Lads from the Pond drool over this. Folks from Tarifa tell me how lucky we are. We see 40 kites and think its crowded.
But you can tack up or downwind and find a great spot of flatwater to cut out your latest trick with a m8 or no-one. Or you can just cruise and boost for literally miles.

This is, in my view a national treasure, and with us on the water, a national spectacle. Kiter's regularly bring families or just themselves, down from Brisbane, Logan and up from Byron, Coffs and even further. They are bringing $'s and sustaining employment to and in the area in an enviromentally, family and people friendly way.

Some of us say losing it in the name of progress is all part of progress and creating jobs. Sure a few short term construction jobs, that would happen somewhere else anyway. Do you think the Chinese will say, "oh forget Australia", because they got shut down on this cruise terminal?

Chinese are frothing any way they can to get in to Australia and to hand them over a tax payer built Island for their exclusive Corporate profit is simply bending over and copping one for the team. Team China. We will be funding the dredging and the road taxes for this. As Glendog stated, "let's keep this stuff in Surfer's". It has no place in the culture up here. Kirra have, for now, got rid of the immediate threat to their National Treasure from the same insane planner's.
If you go to Asia and try to buy up land for any reason, even domestic, see how far you get. In most of Asia you cannot purchase freehold land as an independent landowner. So Paul1 if you like Asians so much, go marry one, buy it up, then move yourself over there m8. Bon voyage buddy.

It make's good financial sense what these countries are doing as it keeps the land ownership tied to people who live in the country. This is one reason mining in Australia is such a sham and is denegrating the country as much as if not more than improving it as the vast majority of profits go to OS interests, and in much greater figures than those that stay in wages that support the miner's.

If you have a look at the Ilha de Madiera of Portugal off the coast of Africa and find a doco named Jewel in the Crown. You can see how development can scar and ruin a natural wonder's potential for country. KFC is a potential PKRA host. It has great potential for event capability and viewing, something kiting lacks in the corporate sense here in Australia. A potential huge event similar to the Quikie pro. In the same way that Pro Surfing an Surf tourism were just budding at the time Madiera was trashed, Kitesurfing in Australia is still yet to hit it's teen's, and KFC is a jewel in the crown of kitesurfing Australia.

This would be a much more positive way to market this area of the GC rather than the "straight off the menu" tourism promoted by foreign owned Cruise companies.

I say to lose this spot is short sighted, enviromentally reckless & that it will only increase the cost of living for local's and long time visitor's to the area. Anyone who want's to state against this should state their reason's with accompanied data that supports their statements. Wild statement's and slander presented with no backup data do not serve a progressive, integrative and educational forum like this any good in the least.

Here is another great thread related to the subject by Philnott
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/South-East-Queensland/Last-Chance-to-Save-ALL-Sailing-Spots-in-Southport/#1615806

Further evidence of councils unscrupulous desire to prepare the area for the terminal at the cost of people who don't want it and won't use it, but will be forced to pay for it the destruction of their own back yard. Thanks for the everyone’s input here & the jests and all guys. Let me ask though if you’re opposing the sentiment here please try and present some information that bolster's your case. The cowboy presentation style of any of the pro development side here only further serves to illustrate the type of emotion, fear mongering and lack of rational thinking & respect that is at the source of pro developments knee jerk reactions to our opposition to the development, here and in the council. Obviously all in the name of more of the mighty dollar for us all. Frankly, what a crock.

And thanks Main for the lend of his whole year's collection of Women’s Weekly's . Well done m8 keep it up.

Please sign up and support and contact Cr Dawn Crichlow, Gold Coast directly with your objection to these ill fated white elephants.
Thanks in advance for your support and the efforts in particular of Philnott and Lost in Space in galvanizing this opposition to stupidity and greed for good sense and preservation.

Personally I agree with the conservation and environment argument – these are the arguments that need to be structured well to have an effect – considering Wave Break Island is man-made and really the waterway south of Tipplers has already been destroyed from an environmental point - the entire area needs to be the focus. As mentioned elsewhere, the argument is not going to make any ground with claims about how you’re going to loose a kiting location and effectively stating that the community owes you a fantastic spot to park your car and kite – a lot of people don’t care.

The other thread on SB is even proposing a huge 6kn zone that for some reason kiters should be allowed to cruise through at 20-30+. So the authorities should stop everyone but us going fast – because everyone else is dangerous if they go fast and we’re not????

As someone who has compiled several successful government submissions, I can tell you that your argument needs to be very well structured, full of scientific and/or social data and completely free of emotion – which is not what I see here. You need to provide a counter argument to the pro camp that discredits their data and claims. “I want to kite here and that stupid Asian development is going to block my wind” is not going to solve it – that argument even has some kiters off side.

On another note - What does make me laugh is people who live on the Gold Coast (or any other heavily developed area) and are against tourist infrastructure development – the entire place only exists because of the tourist trade, most of you would not be able to live there if it wasn’t for the current tourist infrastructure – directly or indirectly everyone working on the coast is supported by tourists. It is the nature of the area, the only way to grow the coast is to build – if the coast doesn’t grow you’ll be bitching that there’s no growth and peoples wages and living standard isn’t growing. It would be like people in inner Brisbane protesting against city high rises...

If you want to live in an area that doesn’t develop try 1770 – but there’s not many jobs there…

I have lived on the Gold Coast for 12 years mate, so I believe I am entitled to my own opinion on what is good for where I live. I personally don't think it will have a huge impact on KFC if any development actually goes ahead, the downside of the development could be gusty wind conditions for those who chose to sail there, the upside is more jobs for Gold Coasters. I prefer the latter you prefer the former so no need for the name calling and derogatory terms. Which beach did I meet you at the other day? Maybe come say g'day next time you see me, I am a very fun approachable guy And to answer your second post, I have nothing to do with the development if thats what you are insinuating, I would prefer if an Australian firm was funding the development, but currently with the lack of employment and limited projects lined up for the coast, I don't think we can afford to be too fussy.

Maybe use your real name then mate, like I do and not hide behind a forum name. I am now a surf Nazi and despise kiters who use those areas? Not quite sure how you managed to take that from what I wrote....but hey good luck to you and your petition, maybe you could stand for Gold Coast mayor and make a real difference.....

You still will be able to kite there. Baldrick reckons it will also destroy jobs in the fishing, boating, diving, kayaking, kitesurfing and windsurfing not to mention many more industries that all use and care for the Broadwater! Not sure how possibly having 1 slightly worse kite spot will destroy all these industries, most of these industries he talks of are tourist driven, so with the extra holiday makers on the scene will probably see an increase in business.....