That's a seriously huge development if that goes ahead, I haven't seen the plans for that, please post the link to the actual plans or is this just hearsay from those protesting? Being constructive like this, rather than insulting people may swing more people to sign your petition, nice work.
Well here are some Scientific Researched Facts about Cruise Ship Impacts on Environments if the disbelievers have the guts to click on the link below and read the report.
In brief all Cruise Ships leach contaminated Bilge Water, Grey Water and Sewerage, this creates toxic blooms and introduced noxious marine species into environments within several kilometres of a Cruise Ship Passage and Dock Areas. They generally have a rule where they can dump their Bilge and Sewerage no less than 3klm out to sea, I'm sure the Surfers and Swimmers all along our Beaches from South Straddie through to Burliegh are going to enjoy their water quality once this happens. In addition to this Docked Ships do not shut down there carbon emission producing smoke stacks as they have to continue to run all their onboard facilities while docked so in the North Easters that will be spreading to all the residences along the Southport/Labrador Beachfront and beyond areas and on the South Easters spreading to the residences along Biggera Waters/Runaway Bay areas.
Many Ships have breached their rules and had mishaps (mass leaks) inshore and at Docks and have failed to be prosecuted for it as their Ship Registration are in Haven Countries where Courts are unable to obtain details on them in order to take action and seek compensation for damage. The ships create mass turbidity from their propellers and thrusts while entering and exiting ports. All the above have severe impacts on the environment and end up destroying most marine species within a large distance of an Passageway and Dock area. Also there are many documented cases of Shipping accidents and anchor dragging that destroy whole reefs to just add to the many benefits of Cruise Ships.
If you would like our beautiful pristine Gold Coast Broadwater turned into a putrid brown turd devoid of Marine Life then I guess you need not support our campaign and be more concerned for jobs going to imported 457 Visa Mandarin and Cantonese Speaking Workers and a once former Queensland and Australian Public Owned OPEN and FREE access public space being sold off to foreign investors for a SONG and having a mini Hong Kong/Macau Island in the middle of OUR Broadwater.
I myself am not anti development or jobs creation as there are places zoned on the Mainland allocated for commercial developments and if its a Casino, Shopping Malls, Highrise and Luxury Development they want then there is a unique and large development site with a major transport hub right on its doorstep going begging only a stones throw away from where they are proposing this development and its called the Former Gold Coast Hospital Site at Southport!!!http://montereybay.noaa.gov/resourcepro/resmanissues/pdf/cruiseControl.pdf
Good point, do you know how many cruise ships per month they are planning to have enter the Broadwater? Are all of the 36,000 jobs going to 457 visas?
If you would like our beautiful pristine Gold Coast Broadwater turned into a putrid brown turd devoid of Marine Life
you're about 40 years too late. the gc ecosystem is screwed already. let them build it - keep the development there and away from the rest of the coast to the north and south
hi lostinspace
i appreciate your passion, but see post from harlie earlier about emotive language and losing potential supporters due to the way you put your case forward - not to mention not being able to sway the decision makers that will just see these things as another "rant" that takes facts and science out of context.
case in point: "an infinite large-scale dredging operation. If this goes ahead and there are mega ships and ongoing dredging, it will very likely permanently convert our turquoise and blue broadwater into a baron and brown dredge-soup"
infinite? really?
also, turbidity is a part of natural ecosystem response (storms, seas, rainfall run off etc etc), it is the duration that is important. in my experience most dredging operations cause short term turbidity that is not too disimilar to a storm effect and recovery afterwards. there are exceptions of course. you'd do better to understand the scale of the dredge plumes analytically and then apply that to how the local ecosystem might be affected. if the plan is to use the dredge material for reclamation, this can be done to minimise return water turbidity very effectively with the right controls, and then the plumes form the cutter are quite minor compared to an uncontrolled disposal for example. can you honestly say that the broadwater has the kind of clear water year round, usually found on the GBR on a clear day?? i've only been there a few times, but it sure waasn't then.
an eye opener for me at work was watching dolphins swim in and around a backhoe dredge bucket (large excavator) feeding on the stirred up crabs and fish from the process. management plans all called for standdown in the presence of marine animals but you could not get them away - they loved it! and they are smart/ good enough to work their way around the machine. so after the first few days of trying to stop works every time they came in we just adapted and let them have their feed when it suited them. win win.
tbh, i'm a bit of a fence sitter on the whole thing as:
- i haven't seen enough environmental data to really gauge the full impact,
- the scale of development seems excessive but i can't tell if this is being exaggerated by the anti campaign (given the emotive language and one sided view point in all info)
- the area is fundamentally altered by the sea entrance already, regardless of what is claimed otherwise
- my background is in work of this nature so i am pro the work / jobs, as long as it is done right (which i am not convinced yet in this case, and there is always risk for stuff ups)
but i did sign the petition as i think it needs far more consideration and refinement before any political sign off would sit well with me.
all the best with your efforts.
maz
Reading the possible effects that are on the petition have certainly swayed me a bit, but until I see the actual factual evidence from both sides I am now currently 50/50 on the project. but like Mazdon and Harlie have posted, you start reading the downside from the petition and start to believe their side of the story, then the sweeping statements that are hard to believe start and also the ranting, which does not do the petition any favours whatsoever. Bottom line is, what is best for the rate payers who actually live on the coast?
Practically every industry today is fueled by financial gain. People are willing to step on whoever they need to in the name of money.
Most unfortunate of all, we see financial interests literally wiping out the planet, destroying ecosystems and wildlife at an unsustainable pace.
How did a made-up value system come to be the eventual downfall of the entire planet?
Will mankind wake-up to its own insanity before it’s too late?
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No,, no they wont, unless someone offers them big money not to.
Kinda like big hole mining destroying the landscape in WA,,,,,,,money is more important,,,apparently
With the way the system is currently set up, it’s almost as if people are intentionally pit against one another like a giant game of survival of the fittest. Like the famous line states, ‘the rich are getting richer, and the poor are getting poorer.’
Practically every industry today is fueled by financial gain. People are willing to step on whoever they need to in the name of money.
Most unfortunate of all, we see financial interests literally wiping out the planet, destroying ecosystems and wildlife at an unsustainable pace.
How did a made-up value system come to be the eventual downfall of the entire planet?
Will mankind wake-up to its own insanity before it’s too late?
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A wise old man once told me that there are two things in this world that are infinite.....
1. Is the universe
2. Is human stupidity
The first one, they are not to sure about
...........Being constructive like this, rather than insulting people may swing more people to sign your petition, nice work.
so.................... only pro development people are allowed to insult people as follow's?
Wow, you actually don't have a brain do you?
and actually causing a wind shadow is about a billion to one, genius.
You really do seem to have a problem with Asians don't you?
Fck me, what a drama queen,.....
Nice. You're all class Paul1
I suggest some memory improving classes
Good point, do you know how many cruise ships per month they are planning to have enter the Broadwater? Are all of the 36,000 jobs going to 457 visas?
.....................................................................unless you actually get a kick out of looking like such a loudmouth tool?
Casino's are not the type of tourism the gold coast should be focused on expanding.
For the few jobs they supply the local's the ruin loads more many time's over.
In a place where natural wonders abound this proposal is a piss poor charade that only serves to benefit those implementing it and burden the cost onto those with nothing to do with it.
A total sham and purely grand theft of a beautiful resource
Casino's are not the type of tourism the gold coast should be focused on expanding.
For the few jobs they supply the local's the ruin loads more many time's over.
Is this your professional opinion?
Exactly what research is it based on….?
^Maybe use the $350 million redevelopment of Jupiters in Broadbeach and $billion Queens Wharf in Brisbane as an examples to support your point so we can all see it as a real world example.
I think these Kiters need somewhere new to gamble....
Maybe the new development might encourage them to spread out because this looks like a really smart bunch of people.
Learn to kite in the ocean not that mud flat u call the Broadwater. Bring on the jobs and the skyrail at beechmont.all it is at low tide is a mudhole full of nimbys