one of my fav combos at the momonent is the black sticks rear and a set of f4 glass sides hand shaped inner foil by stoney. i also have stoney staighten my side fins up by 1mm[less tow in] and run with a tighter fin configuration [froumt fins closer to the rear]compeared to a standard surfboard,it works for me,enough secrets dont want everyone ripping like radmanalso like the vector 2s combined with a larger center fin rode sunset tonight with a nother hand shaped center fin by stoney, radman designed, has a long rake with a lot of flex in the tip,equates to alot of drive/hold with squirt out of the turns, fins aint fins people,future boxes rule for kite surfin