What a load of crap...
30 posts and so little detail about the new kite. Eppo and Tony good points.
So does anyone actually know about the new kite yet?
Paul1 your missing the point, all educated opinions are valid
If you didnt like it thats fine, explain why, use comparisons to other brands, so we can understand otherwise your comment is pointless
Gibbo is right all opinions are warranted. But Paul1, why didn't you like it? Give some technical descriptions to warrant your opinion so an informed discussion can be had. Or don't, but it can reduce such bickering.
Maybe this will help a little. I am an very competent intermediate kiter with 9 years constant kiting. I like nearly all types of kiting, strong wind, light wind, surf, jumping and even just cruising. I changed to BWS over 6 months ago after demoing a few new kites. FYI I was coming from Octanes 2010 and have had Takoon Furia's 2008, Helix, Bow kite 06, Fuels 05, Airush 03 and Ozone before. I should say I nearly bought REOs but they didn't have the new bar then.
Thanks to this post (Ryland) I now know that my BWS kites (6M and 10M) are version 2! What I wanted was a totally reliable and predictable kite that never falls from the sky (even if you charge towards it) and also stays where it should in the window. Further, it has to turn in a nice arc with power for good carving. That's what I like about these kites. They are very stable and give me great confidence and feel/feedback. They are slower than my Octanes and especially the Takoon Furias but I don't mind that at all because they are well fast enough with a good bit of bar movement. They are sized wrong but again it's not an issue as you just buy 1 size smaller than you need. The de-power cleat is tougher to adjust than it should be and the excellent bar should have line holders but I don't care because the most important thing is how it flies and how it feels. I love it. You may not, but they are still good kites either way.
I can't understand how they can be honestly described as terrible.
So does version 3 turn faster, have a better cleat or fly better somehow? Oh and seriously - Relaunch is not an issue. Is it on any modern kite?
I've spent a bit of time on Noise kites this summer and the only time I ever really have trouble relaunching is when the kites are under inflated. Also let the bar out when your relaunching (grab a leader line) and they come up plenty quick.
Thanks AdfreeTV, that is good sound info and great to hear the kites you have used in the past. I would like an answer to this years model as well.
Hey I usedto fly the Airush lift in 03 - which one did you have? Big boost but pulled like a mac truck!
A mate just picked up a new 2011 BWS 10m, and he loves it to death!
I havent ridden it yet but only when I do take it for a spin will I be commenting on it!
wow, 2 pages and no ones ridden the new version kite yet! i love rumour for a kite release, makes for a few giggles reading
I have to laugh sometimes about the ridiculous comments that get bandied about. It should be simple...ride a kite, like it or dont, what did you like or dislike...end of story. But on here it goes like this " I saw a picture of the new one, it looks way slower with too much bar pressure" I swear some people comment for the sake of commenting. I have been reading posts on here for only 2-3 years, rarely comment. But I think its getting out of hand with the junk that gets posted. Including this one, it has nothing to do with the original post....See my point.
Opinions one way or the other are valid to those who make them...why not just demo the kite yourselves, you are the ones to be satisfied by the kite performance rather than opinion!
(quote Eppo
Posted 21/03/2012, 9:34 am
Is there such a thing as unbiased. Read the reviews - lots of them, compare notes find similarities. Then PM the actual riders and get more detail. Compare these repsonses as well. An open question like this will only generate Bias. end quote)
Perhaps Eppo you can heed your own advice
You dont think all other major brands add an extra $50 to the price of kites when they package it with a pump...
Bws has tried to keep the cost down with basic colour (black), no graphics, no pump, simple line setup.
By keeping the cost down it means they can transfer the savings onto you guys.
Its like shopping at aldi. No frills, great quality(most things)
55 posts ,$16 bucks a head, (i will cover the freight and have my own bar pump)deposited into my account for a new 8 (or is that a 10)and we can settle this debate with a unbiased review !
everyone needs to sit down and chill the feck out. except anyone who has a review about the kite.
ryland - what is this above the bar depower? so theres a new bar as well as a new kite? couldnt find it on the site.
@ Waveslave.
How is any business "dumb" when they discount a kite, then attempt to claw back a bit of cash on the extras? It gives the customer some options yet enables BWS to make extra $$ when the customer demands it. When the business is a price leader they have to make profits from somewhere.
Demanding $1800 a kite and throwing in every extra would be one option, whereas this way would be another.
That's fair play, capitalism and if you compare to most other kite brands good value.