Looking to make 2 new seats for my landyacht and my brothers landyacht ,we also have another one nearly built .has any one in SE QLD namley in the Brisbane ? Sunshine Coast or Gold Coast area have a mould to buy or borrow to make some decent seats.Looking for the ly down reclined tub type ones ....any ideas???
thanks Jay
Best bet in thatpart of the world would be to contact Dave Webster at Pheonix Landsailing. I'm told he has a fibreglassing business ,and the seats on his Little Pheonix was quite a neat and tidy unit. Let us all know how you get on .
just added a heap of photos to land yacht gallery under jays landyacht....
specs and history... 
1st yacht built is one pictured, mine ,designed by myself and built around 1996 ,width is 2.5m lenght is 3.5m construction is full aluminium ,main frame is 50x100 about 3mm thick diagional braces are 50x50 and 2mm thick ,forks are 6mm plate, the only thing steel on the whole unit is the front wheel ,,off a step thru motorcycle wheel with a slick tyre on it ,and the rear stub axels.rear wheels are aluminium 8'" boat trailer wheels.weight fully rigged is around 40 kg
this is the 3rd rig on this yacht
1st was a araffura cadet mast and sail (this one folded up when I broke a lower side stay at about 70kph.
2nd was a paper tiger mast and sail ( this one is a spare incase one of us has a mishap)
3rd current rig is a cut down A class cat mast and sail ,mast is 23ft wing mast and sail is a square top carbon fiber main.
2nd yacht is identical to first ,same specs ,built by a good mate of mine around 12-18 monthe after I built my one ,same A class rig .My brother has accuired this land yacht 9 months or so ago so we have 2 identical yachts to race.
3rd yacht is again identical to the first 2 ,built about 2000 by my x crew whilst we were racing nacra 5.8's ,he was in year 12 and had to do a shop project so he brought the aluminium and cut it out and welded it up (the teacher probley welded it up) with the mig welder in the school metal shop room.this yacht is a rolling chasis and is complete apart from the rig and sail ,and has never seen the beach,as I stated I do have a spare rig so our plan is to get this one on the beach as well.
as you can see from the photos the seats are fairly average ,I have been given a fiberglass seat mould for a bucket racing seat out of a drag car ,I may be able to cut and widen and cut and lay it back abit before I try and pull some seats of it.
There are quite a few land yachts is the area ,blowcarts ,kite buggies all different designs and sizes ,every now and then a new one will surface or some one will dig one out from under a house .
jay
From experience of trying to adapt car and Gocart seats to landyachts, it never really works. I would suggest you have a look at the drawings for the Lake Lefroy mini seats. the dimensions in the drawings would fit nicely with the yachts. I would suggest building a rough one in 20mm concreters form ply to get an idea of the comfort and fit. the good thing about this stuff ( apart from being cheap) is that you can then smooth the joins with car bog and Voila! you have a plug for a mold.
I always look in the skips of construction sites for my ply, and have yet to need to buy any.
I am well impressed with your rigging. nice mast rotation controls. thos elittle A class wings are brilliant things. I have one on a yacht called PIG.
where do you get to sail the yachts?
Due to a close friend passing away last week, I have been unable to keep to my schedule for building my CL5. However, If you can wait for a couple of months(?) I will be building a mould for a fiberglass lay back seat for my own yacht. I have designed the formers for producing the required shape but the seat will be somewhat wider to suit my own particular size and shape. What is the width you require at the ends and at the shoulder position? The section of the seat will be rounded at the bottom corners to give a compound curve for maximum strength and stiffness. I am going to build a scale model of the seat that will be about 1/5th full size or maybe a 1/4 scale in size. I will post full details and photos when time permits, hopefully in two weeks. The basic shape is the form of the seat that is shown in Pauls Pacific Magic. If I can find the required amount of $'s, I would love to build the seat with Kevlar and Type 3 glass cloth. It would then be extremely lightweight and immensely strong.
Kody
I like the look of that tri there Rattlehead. Doesn't look like a Farrier. What exactly is it? If you feel like posting a few photos in the sailing section I'll certainly have a gander. I have a Van De Stadt 34 which unfortunately (or fortunately) has not been in the water for the last 3 1/2 years. Got to fix the house before I fix the boat before I build the land yacht. In the meantime I get some sailing jollies from my blokart.
Cheers Cisco.
Yeah Rattle, had a look at those. Very impressive. They keep saying how it is a boat for the budget conscious. The budgets on the other side of the world must be a lot bigger than here.
The footage showing it sailing on a heel of about 30 degrees with the crew on the windward pontoon about 4m above the water is pushing the envelope a bit.
Tris are supposed to sail flat and fast aren't they?
Yeah, I can go with that, but they had the centre board clear or almost clear of the water. A good gust would have them giving the mast top tri light lens a bit of a wash.
I'm not being critical here, just observant. Pushing the envelope is what I believe life is all about, pertinant to the individual.
I saw a wall poster not so long ago with a picture of a person in a kayak, in a rapid, going for it. The caption for the scene was:- "There is only one Success in Life and that is in Living Life in Your own way." I believe this is an ultimate truth.
Been looking on You Tube at various things of which some are nearly beyond belief. Type "Base Jumping" into the search bar and have a look.
So this thread is for "land yacht seat designs", have you come across anything yet Rattle?? I am looking for a design that will fit all classes and fit into the boot of the Falcon. Maximum length needs to be around 1200mm.
If the "Ultimate Innovator" Paul Day reads this, I am sure he will have a solution.
Sunday Roast requires carving, so until next time, Adios Amigos.
`1200 mm is trying to test even my brain. You can see where the thinking for the blokart came from. If you want to lay back you might want to consider a 2 piece seat. I did like the way the sirroco had a seat with 2 angles.kind of slow or go positions. The seat on the Pheonix comes to mind as it has a rear in the style of the seagull yachts in that it makes you sit comfortably up and thus not need the long backrest that I prefer. That would probably be a better proposition on a rougher surface anyway.
I had in mind something like your wooden seat on the gal pipe mini with the seat back either removeable or folding a la blokart but solid not sling.
Removeable looks like being the simplest but it is still a challenge to get the base down to 1200mm. I am thinking a separate front piece might do the job.
I have been looking at the photos jeqs posted of the hire yachts in France. They appear to have fibreglass go kart seats and just a flat piece of plywood under the legs.
That's nice and simple but because of the shape of the go kart seat I think it would need to be removed from the frame for transport in the boot of a car.
Necessity being the mother of invention, I am sure the solution is going to drop out of the ether anytime now. Cheers
re. the seat , will all be posted on my web site very soon , untill then , wait and see !
I had a look at the wooden mini seat tonight. you coud easily take 100mm off the front of the seat to get it under 1200mm. the chassis would need to be modified to have a slot in front end ahead of the mast pipe. none of this would be a difficult engineering problem, nor woud it affect the perfomance or handling
Just had a measure of the boot of the Falcon and 1250mm is the absolute max length that is practical and that is only if the front end is 450mm or less wide so as to fit between the back of the wheel arch and the tail lights.
Blokart chassis is 1180mm long and is a real neat fit in an XE or XF boot. XD boot should be easier as the spare wheel sits in the recess in the fuel tank.
So the question here is if a Lefroy Mini Explorer with a shortened wooden seat also had a removeable steering head and removeable rear axle extensions, would it still be a Lefroy Mini or would it be something else??
only if it went slower!
yes that would be fine. As long as the removable front was ahead of the mast base it will all work fine . the main thing to pay attention to is that the torsional effect of the main spine of the chassis isnt reduced
That's pretty much what I had in mind Paul. Now it's a matter of getting all the other projects out of the road so I can start on this one.
Cheers.
Here's another idea for a cheap seat. This cost me $42.90 and its really comfortable. Unfortunately this one is destined to be a rain water pump cover, but I might get another and try it on my mini. Just cut out the front panel and add some brasing.
again with the power of photoshop, I was thinking of something like this (sorry for the lack of effort put into this, but you get the idea)
See!! I told you a solution was going to drop out of the ether real soon. Brilliant Hillsy. Thinking out of the box at it's best. I always loved getting a ride in the wheel barrow when I was a kid (maybe I still are one) because it was so comfortable.
Maybe we should have the "Bunnings Barrow Land Yacht Challenge". Two Bunnings barrows give two seats and the rear wheels and some frame work. Add the front of a bicycle for steering and mast and sail and voila, land yacht. Cheers, Cisco
(opps sorry thats been done)
