Oh well, finaly relented and knocked up the frame for a mini today. will post pics of progress .
Plan to make 20" rear wheels same process as aus230
16"BMX front wheel
Adjustable mast rake
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AUS230
Wow Vic its addictive isnt it
Looking good Will it have a nappy seat like pauls ?
Your planned rear wheels will make great front wheels for a class 5 I think also
Not sure how I am going to do the seat yet. maybe in fiberglass or wood. Started to make the plug for the wheels today plus turned up the centre hubs.
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AUS230
Hi Vic, looking good. What is the size of the steel tube you have used?
You could use that spoked 20" wheel on the front. That would really fly!
Hi Clem
The tube for the frame is drill tube 2" outside Dia. 1/16" wall.
Mast stem 2"inside Dia. 1/8"wall
The aliminum is from an old hang glider that I won,t use again 1-3/4" outside Dia with another interference aly tube inside. I have made the frame to take 20" wheels on rear and a 16" on front.
I will post the plans of what I have done in a a few days
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AUS230
(old hang gliders can be picked up at low cost an contain a hell of a lot of high tensile aly)
now its going to get interesting. 
Looks like I wont be able to be lazy when it comes to building a yacht for January
. How is barrys yacht cming
Barry should have his there in September , I am hopping to have mine done to, sail may be the holdup
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AUS230
Thanks Paul,
I have cut down a 6m sail from my old windflyer(it got cremated a couple of weeks ago) I will hand stich it with my awl . I have the carbon mast and will sort the boom. If the sail is a flop I would be thankfull if I can borrow one untill i can get mine sorted. Crazey Trav has a sail that Barry can borrow if he can not get his old club88 sail cut down. Fran is of to europe for two months so i can burn the midnight oil up the shed 
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AUS230
Finished and painted the frame . The wheels are next, have to lay up disc for wheels, and fabricate steering assembly. Trying to cut down windsurfer sail not sure how that will end up.
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AUS230
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Finished rear wheels next is the front end. The mini weighs in at 13kg(with front end) so far.
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AUS230
Just about finished mini AUS230 today only some painting and the seat to go.As it stands in the pic it weighs 17kg.
Diamentions are the same as LLM just changed the frame design to suit what I wanted (y frame and larger wheels) watching landyachts mini perform I think he has it near to perfect.
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AUS230
Nice one Vic!
Would look cool with a bullet shaped nose cone to cover and support the feet. A bit like those old motocycle fairings?
Dang Vic , I was hoping I wouldnt have to build a new one for January. well thats out of the window now!.Sewing machine dropped out of timing tonight with just the pocket left to sew on the new 4m.
Even worse, today the lake and wind were pure Vindicator weather. Of course I was out working !
I AM NOT CRITICIZING!
I love what you are doing and yes it has taken it to a new level to quote Hiko.
BUT if you have been following Cameron's build you will see that he is having difficulty following very basic stuff, and I suspect there are many others who would look at this yacht and say "Too hard".
IF the future of the sport is in the youth (give your own answer here) are we stretching the mini too far?
Paul, think back to Bill's Hot Stuff and how far it's come.
Progress is always inevitable, but is it always positive?
If the "Baby Beast" is to be the new benchmark, then so be it. It certainly looks the part. Great stuff Vic.
Thanks Guys
Realy the construction of the yacht is not hard.
I may have tried to make somthing different and as cheaply as possiable. the only cost so far has been 2 Lts resin and a couple meters of glass probly around $80. the rest is from stuff salvaged from various sources.
I have no great building skills but love to learn and try new things. I do not think that this yacht is any harder to build than other designes.(probley took about 2 days in overall time), and like I said previosley it is realy a LLM with a few changes.
The wheels are real easy to build with a little care.
The area that I think I am going to have a real problem with is the sail,I think I may not have the unstanding to do this . But again I am going to give it a go and I am sure it will take a few goes to get it right
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AUS230 (mini beast)
I guess that, in a way, I had a bit of a misconception that the Mini was a "fun" yacht with the "serious" racer being catered for elsewhere.
Now that my peabrain sees through the fog created by too much sand and sh1* thrown in them the way is much clearer!
To quote Monty Python "Oh what a silly bunt I am"
Onwards and upwards (or down to the local tip!)
Perhaps this is where people need to draw a line in the sand so to speak of what is a LLMini?
I would have thought that a LLMini is a yacht built as per Seabreeze plans or with "slight" variations of it.
Other type Mini yachts are in fact that... different .... And yes they are still Mini yachts and fit into the Mini class for racing. eg. a blokart (in some configurations) will be a Mini class yacht but a "group" within a class. The same as a Pacific Magic, Club88 and the Fed5, ALL are class 5, but they are the same (in their own group) yet different compared to another group.
So with that idea "Nappyrush", "Mini AUS230", and "Pirrad's" yacht ARE Minis but NOT a "Lake Lefroy Mini".....
You blokes just love to make your lives complicated dont you
I suppose the reason I didnt put nappy rushplans on the site was that I want other , more experienced builders to start thinking for themselves.
Which they have obviously done
However, when I tested and tuned NR on lefroy, I was suprised to find that it was no faster or slower than a standard, basic mini or even ankel bijter. The results were very similar on the beach at Yepoon.
the only place where it really got up and mangled the opposition is on the slippery , gravelly and rutted surface of Safety bay.
On a similar vien , I trialled skiny 20 and 16 " wheels on the gypsum surface of Lake Gillies and they were decidedly slower there.
On a good sailing surface the faster yacht will be the one with a well cut sail matched to a good mast, sailed by somebody with their brain in thinking mode.
For our upcoming GPS speed trials we have begun to recognise material and construction differences, along similar lines to the blokarts , in the "classes" of yachts we will be considering.
I suspect time will sort out a final formula.
We still havent seen any 'V'frames or decent full body with wooden axle yachts yet to get a really good comparisons
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Now off you go to the tip Kiwi307
The next one was actually going to be a "mini DN"!
And I reckon you will be dead right about rigs Paul. My ramblings about wheels have been well aired previously!
the big thing Ive enjoyed about these minis is trying to get all those Great ideas from the big yachts down into such a tiny package, Thats probably the biggest challenge. My first mini actually had stays and was a real pain.
Axle was also way too stiff( hint)
now im seeing great yachts from trampoline frames, and exercise machines
I am thinking about doing that Clem, If I make a mast I have a lot hang glider wing cloth to turn into the sail part. (only for fun as it will put it outside of the mini rules.
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