Thanx for the reply....Im not worried bout the sides and my head.. but thinking to pad up the mast base... my familly jewels more important than head !!!I can live without my head but my ..... is a different story..got to work out the back rest part soon and get this thing a rollin....
catch you guys on the flip side......
thanx for the reply... not to worried bout the head,, but will pad up the mast base..
dont want to hurt the familly jewels!!!!! and yes my litle trailer opens up in the back to a little galley with cook top and kitchen supplies,, tools go in the front compartment where the battery is... was a fun build... well every day the mini gets closer.. landyacht says I bettter weld up the hole on my fork, so I will put it on the list.. cant wait to try it..
ohh and to bugeye? where are you located?
If you dont value you head, install and wear a seatbelt, best nut protection around. Stops you sliding forward to the crunch zone 
Hi, if the square tube on the fork, still has an open end, can you sleeve a smaller bit of square in and use the hole to plug weld it??? Even two bits of angle trimmed to make a smaller cross section square tube.
I'm so glad I have a seat belt as tonight I turteled at only 40kmh and the 60 grit sandpaper of the salt lake surface, would have carved yards of skin off without it.
You won't find me without a helmet either as concussion is no fun at all. Don't ask me how I know!!!!!
True Test Pilot 1!!!!!!
The wife reckons, you'd never know the diffenence anyway.......
Just look after your youself, as Hiko has said.
i respect all ur suggestions...i will wear my helmet.. just like when i ride the hog, will get the seat belt going as I am a firefighter and have seen how important they are. As far as the hole in my fork... I really dont think it will lose all that strength but I will cut two pieces of steel and fill in the holes and grind them smooth,,\
Found a airstrip today that will work for some land sailing,, have a big parking area but only a few planes parked there... any way....better get back and get some work done...
Frank
Frank, I have a spare seat belt from an airplane you can have and a lot of polyfoam and foam rubber cushion materials you could pick through. I don't know your time line to finish your build but you are welcome to it if you want. I will be in trainning and exams through next Tuesday.If you can wait we can figure a way to get it to you. Regards Tim
If Harleyd does not want the seat belt, I would love to get it. I am just in the process of building my mini, and the selection of belts at the wreckers is poor. I live in Canada and could make arrangements for shipping. What part of the US are you in, I will be in California at the end of the month (palm springs).
Brian
bugeye thanx for the offer... seems a sabydent might need it , Im pretty sure can find one here locally.. there are a bunch of rv places here and they have them..
so if it works.. maybe pass it on to the cannuk..
thanx again. by the way where are you located? any where near Sacramento?
Frank,
I'm in Folsom. The city, not the prison. I think I am on the other side of Sacramento from you. Do you find it strange that we are communicating through an Aussie forum? I geuss anything to further the cause!!! Thanks Seabreeze!
Tim
For you guys in the states I got my seat belt for my Ice boat from JC Whitney they have a web site and a catalog and have a great selection and good prices I paid around $15 us. You definitely need one you will get thrown out it hard turn without it, and please wear a helmet
I just went to the car wreckers with a shifter and knife and unbolted what I needed at no charge.
The belts have no commercial value, on the stripped cars when they are ready to crush.
It took me about an hour to gather up a milk crate full of all sorts of belts buckles and clips.
Cut them to what you want, run the cigarette lighter over the cut end to prevent fraying and stitch them up.
I made up ankle straps that go through the mast brace to restrain the legs in an upset and used the belts for that as well. I stitched hook and loop velcro to the belts to make it a couple of second job to put the ankle straps on when getting in. I was worried that a leg over board during a "turtle" would result in injury.
They don't get in the way at all and have already proved they work.
Damn! Do I have Sucker written across my Forehead? Bloody mongrel over the road Charged me $25 for a double rear set out of some Japanese Tin (Dime a dozen stuff)
Bloody Rogue.
Hey! Yous YANKS are doing well to study this sight. We will have yu Talkin; 'strine really quickly. Like "Hey! Chook, Yer Blood's worth Bottling, Even if it is only for Cockroach Poison
",
Ron
Ilike this style of buckle because it is easier to operate than automotive style pushbutton buckles. They clip on and off the yacht hardpoints so you can remove or change position. ( 10 dollars U.S. on ebay)
I know that I have posted this before, but with many new people building yachts its a story that needs to be told....
While the thoughts are there on the subject of safety ...."Seatbelts".
Many years ago I saw a very nasty situation with a 2 seater yacht at Goolwa beach.
The yacht was a "Freeflight Manta" sailing along the beach with 2 people with a basic knowledge of landyachting .. and doing the right thing of wearing helmets and seatbelts.
The yacht flipped over just below the point the the water was coming up to,
Now the buckles of the seatbelts were between the 2 people so when the yacht was on the side the top person was suspended by the belt forcing their body weight down blocking the release of either of the buckles.
It was all a bit of a laugh for a while with others helping...it got VERY serious when a wave rolled in over the yacht trapping the bottom person under water for what must have seemed an eternity for them.
The lesson learnt VERY rapidly was make sure you can release the buckle by yourself while being suspended by that belt......If they hadn't been sailing with many other people around im sure it would have been fatal.
I have seen some idiots that use sailing snap hooks or a climbing carabina as the buckle.
If a yacht is on its side you will need 3 people to lift a 80-90kg person to release a jambed buckle...
PLEASE REMEMBER THIS..... IT COULD SAVE YOUR LIFE
Taken from.... www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Land-Yacht-Sailing/Construction/Seat-Belts/
Right O Gizmo,
This could be very important for all Land Yachters:Regarding Seat Belt Buckles. It would appear that Auto/Car Seat Belts are a bit of a Problem at times to release when a load is applied to the Buckle/Catch as well as them generally being set off to one side witch in a Turtle/Topsy Turvey situation can also pose a bit of a problem. It would strike me, I have only Flown a few times in Light Aircraft, that the Seat Belts used in Light Aircraft are more suitable to our purposes as;
1.
They are usually set with the buckle in front of the Seat Occupier. Only a morbidly Obese person would cause difficulty in release.
2.
The Seat Belt Buckle is of a positive release type Finger Tips lift the Lever, They are hard to cause to Jam.
3.
They have been designed with Simplicity and Functionality in mind, The KISS Principle. They might not look pretty but they are very efficient from a safety point of view. If in a Crash situation it is imperative that Aircraft Seat Belts function 100% under the worst situation that the Buckle releases smoothly. Aircraft Burn quickly and nothing could be worse than to survive the crash and be burnt to death because the buckle Jammed.
These points have only just dawned on me as Car seat Belts are Cheap and easy to come by. However at this point in time I am seriously thinking of changing over to Bugeye's type, They make perfect sense, and if Lagging in a race out on the Salt Flats you Turn turtle you can release yourself every time, with less possibility of having to Hang There until help arrives.
Ron
----Correct me if I'm wrong.
I had some of the flap type buckles on my yachts also. There were several times that I heard a rattling noise while I was sailing along, and when I investigated it, it was the buckles dragging along the ground. 
Rebuckled it and continued, but heard the same noise a little while later
The lesson was that the sheet rope, long sleeve from my jacket, and who knows what else would hook under the flap, and release me at very unhandy times. There is probably a fix for it, but I just bought new ones with the button release.
$12.00 and peace of mind (albeit a small mind)........ Cheers!
I've had the aircraft type come undone on an aircraftfrom the headphone wire and i didnot realise until i tried to undo it!
I guess anything can happen, in the firefighting business we have a small hook type knife that has a concealed blade. its very small and could be strapped with a small line to the belt. They also sell them at skydive centers if you ever need to cut your lines.. only about 2 bucks american.
I think this subject has been up before and if I remember correctly
the outcome was in favour of the car seat type but not the one with the button on the side but the one that has the oblong release button alongside the webbing
Ok! So we have just a little conjecture...
Has anyone had problems with Sand/Salt Corrosion or other Obstructions in the in there chosen Seat Belt Fasteners??
As yet I have not but in situations where Business have decided to use the Strip to Heap their Blue Metal/Road Sealing Gravel of the Fine Top Coat type I have on at least one occasion have finished up parked well up on the side of a heap
Fun Soft Landing However I finished up with a bunch of this Gravel in the Cockpit with me and the possibility was there that some of the finer stuff could well have gotten in to the Buckle. Further food for thought. I suppose one chats on this or similar forums and in the end Makes a Decision then lives with it.
Ron
I was following iceboat forums like j14s and iceflyers when I bought the belts. Ice sailers have a very real concern about breaking through or driving into a hole in the ice. They need to get out quick so a lot of them use this belt along with a knife/pick to help them get out of the 32 degree/F water and back on the ice. Sounds funny but your wifes old pantyhose over the buckle takes care of any snagging and release issues.
Bugeye I am not going to ruin a perfectly good pair of my stockings for that use!
Ron always wash your seat belt when you wash your yacht/sails, helmet, goggles etc and when dry, liberally spray with your choice of CRC/WD40 etc.
went to prime the yacht today and cant decide on a color, the natural metal looks cool when it is polished up a bit. Soooooooooooo im thinking i might just clear coat it.
Got the pulley loop welded tonight on the back of the seat post. clear coated it so i will see how it lasts// a friend came by tonight and offered me a couple of masts .. nice... I should quit screwing around and get it finished. been almost 2 months.
