last 2 days had a look at 2 sites I haven't seen for a while -
Lake Bumbunga, Lochiel (yesterday)
& Pt Germain, where I had a nice sail this morning
Hi Bill
Lake Bumbunga looks great, How is the surface for sailing and can it be used.
I think Pt Germain is a great spot I spent a couple of days there last year. Did not get to have a sail as wind was not there. Pefect spot tho as the caravan park is right on the waters edge and the town was real friendly. Miles of sailing area when the tide was out. Looks like a good place to fish and catch crabs.
Cheers
Vic
Hi guys,
Salt at lake is spot on, but have to check permission first.
When I sailed there many years ago, it was very fast. Similar to Kambalda.
Looks as good now.
looks like ice upset the Marfia agen........my dog could work that out in half a
dead dogs day, he's a mongrel and wont take no as an answer, good around the
BBQ, he becomes a sausage dog, colk....only jesting
in 2010 there was going to be a combined kite festival and land sailing event at Pt Gremaine called blovember but it never can to pass (couldn't get any "club" members to travel that far) so it all went by the board but I think that the local tourist assoc, could be talked into putting some thing on again,, I had a number of conversations with them while trying to get land yachts up there, the beach isnt't bad as a sailing beach can be a bit "pot holey" but you get that, maybe a week sailing up there would be the go I'm sure we could do a deal with the caravan park for a cheaper rate for land sailors and at the right time of year if the wind isn't up there's alway good cradding from the jetty so there's plenty to do,,mmmm maybe i'll contact the assoc again and put it to them ,,, just a thought
The beach at Pt Germeine is as good as anything you'll find internationally, I'd call it world class.
the important thing if you wanted to organize an event there is to make sure you go at a time when the tide is perfect,and it co-incides with the best wind conditions of the year.
dont put effort into organizing an event when the winds will be iffy or the tides too early or too late, but fits in well with the tourist season or a public holiday.
thats been done time after time.
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. count the Lake Lefroy Boys IN , if you can come up with something do-able at Pt Germeine
the crabs have more meat late to mid summer , rather than early in the season too
when is the best wind and tides?, a dodge tide would be great .
can I suggest one of the crow eaters ring up the man at the hardware,bait shop/post office and have a good long talk . he is an absolute expert on that beach
FACT
Paul.... re; Lake Bumbunga, sending people to the local pub to get the name of the landholder...how rude and disrespectful to assume for the price of a beer people will get the name of the property owner from some bar fly!! Hope that same bar fly doesn't know your private home address.
The lake is PRIVATE property and the owner is known to the land sailing people that need to know.
Private property is EXACTLY that PRIVATE PROPERTY !!!!
As you are VERY well aware the lake has a VERY soft edge that is easily damaged at times even getting a Class5 onto the lake can be difficult let alone anything larger, trying to get a trailer on the lake will cause MASSIVE damage to the lake surface.
And as you are aware it takes many many years for lakes to recover from such damage like that, and farmers don't like damage occurring on their property.
The owner is very protective of the lake and wont appreciate any damage or constant requests for access.
The last thing the sport needs in South Australia is a whole lot of people contacting the owner wanting access to the lake, going there unprepared for the soft edges of the lake and doing damage.
Access has always previously been arranged as a group of land sailors going to the lake, and this is often needed to get the yachts to the sailing area.
So Paul please have some respect for the land owner and other land sailors in SA.... As you would appreciate on your local sailing area interstate interference is NOT warranted or welcome.
You think I'm upset and cranky?...... absolutely.. and not apologising for it either as the lack of respect and assumptions by some give me the irrrits!!!!
What don't you understand Paul.... The owner is known an agreement had been worked out for landyacht usage. But as a group... Not random drop in people.
Your stupidity and pub stuff is putting that agreement on shaky ground.
Just how much soggy ground do you need to cross to reach useable lake surface?
Do you need to put down conveyor belting or similar for access?
If the land owner is agreeable- materials could be stored on the property instead of having to cart it all around.
With lack of suitable sailing areas being the biggest obstacle holding landyachting back- Paul is right- good venues need to be constantly found and developed, Gizmo is also right- the property owners need to be kept happy too.
No need to tear each others head off about it- we all want the same thing after all.
If we keep acting as individuals jealously protecting our personal playgrounds, we will eventually have no one but well organised groups like the blokarts clubs being able to sail anywhere.
Be a bit realistic, look at what the Australian Blokart clubs have achieved so far- impressive growth, private club venues, club premises,
Only a few minutes from my home, the Perth Blokart Club now have the keys to Lake Gnangara- along with seasonal access to the same patch that Sandgropers use- something I could never hope get as an individual!
Work together fellas- find suitable venues for sailing by any means you can, then get the rubber stamp from the owners and go out there and impress them!
stephen.
for those with limited interest in this spat............
A Mrs Duck contacted me, she seems to have her Feathers ruffled, and has
charged to the defence of The Gizmo by tearing strips off me. I have replied and
have kept a sample,,,,"landyachting general" is where everone who wants to talk
about anything as i see it, does. I asked a quesrtion of interest to me......thats
all . I have nothing to applogise about my question!!
I do not see this so mach as a Spat but as a total misreading of an initial question about this Lake Double Bunga. I understood it as a Question as to how to locate the owner to gain permission to use his Lake.. To me that is totally innocuous and innocent enough. It was not meant to Cause this Storm- in-a-Teacup. The question required a simple, honest answer
i.e. "Guys we in SA would prefer you didn't call or contact the owner as our use is quite tenuous and the owner would prefer us to keep it as a limited site"
A simple polite answer that offends no one I hope. There is no need for a tirade or inappropriate behavior to fellow Land Yachters.
Now am I right or am I right??
We all want the same thing--------To enjoy Sailing and like minded companionship??
Now there is a very Wide 11Km Long Beach near Smithton that anyone is welcome to use, the Sand is as hard as your Forehead (Excluding TP1-Of course)[}:)]. I don't mind putting someone up for a few nights, pay your way is all.
Ron