Select to expand quoteLittleBoris said..
That is a beautiful looking boat Boty, I would be quite proud to have built that.
thanks boris not everyday the opportunity comes along
Select to expand quoterumblefish said..Andrew68 said..
Just saw this set up on Morning Star today on the Tamar. Looks very clean.
Sorry about the sideways photos
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Yeah I did all that splicing!!
Hi Rumblefish,
how are the rigging screws working out regards creep? looks like you have plenty of thread left for tightening.
just wondering because im rigging mine in dux and still havnt decided on the tensioning system. I like the idea of lashing only, but the ease of adjusting a screw is very tempting.
ive seen some with lashing and screw but it looks a bit messy to me.
Cheers.
IMHO once you get to a boat that needs good rig tension you need both.
It is possible to splice and pre-stretch to the right length to just engage your turnbuckles but it's difficult. Dux also gets shorter on hot days so if you splice and stretch it at home in winter, it won't fit on a warmer day.
Alternatively it's difficult to get enough rig tension on 11mm and up with lashing alone.
The new fittings we are making will make the 'messy' look neat by keeping the lashing in line. We can also anodize the fittings any color you want and get different colors of dyneema for lashing, eg white or black
Select to expand quoterumblefish said..
IMHO once you get to a boat that needs good rig tension you need both.
It is possible to splice and pre-stretch to the right length to just engage your turnbuckles but it's difficult. Dux also gets shorter on hot days so if you splice and stretch it at home in winter, it won't fit on a warmer day.
Alternatively it's difficult to get enough rig tension on 11mm and up with lashing alone.
The new fittings we are making will make the 'messy' look neat by keeping the lashing in line. We can also anodize the fittings any color you want and get different colors of dyneema for lashing, eg white or black
Im guessing you're making thimbles with the lashing holes? What's the rough cost for a pair to suit 11mm?
Select to expand quoterumblefish said..
First one off the router of the thimble part of the lashing set
That's cool Rumblefish.
Nice work!
Are you going to anodize them.?
I've got a DIY anodizing plant at home and It does a pretty good job on most small aluminum things I manufacture.
Select to expand quoteJolene said..
Nice work!
Are you going to anodize them.?
I've got a DIY anodizing plant at home and It does a pretty good job on most small aluminum things I manufacture.
Yup, first batch black for a traditional boat but stock will prob be silver
Select to expand quoteSteelSapphire said..
I'm sorry to say that I couldn't recommend Joe Walsh. We changed our standing rigging on our 50 foot cutter rigged ketch with him last year. We chose Joe as he has a great reputation, and came recommended.
Sadly, it was a total nightmare. He was highly disorganised, took more than 5 months with countless broken promises, and in the end we moved on with a large number of (admittedly minor) issues still unresolved, rather than having to deal with him any longer.
Throughout this process, he was gruff, unpleasant and unwilling to engage in any proper discussion on specific elements of the job whatsoever, resulting in sub-optimal outcomes in many many ways. He also cut many corners, which left us feeling concerned about the quality of workmanship, to the extent that we engaged another rigger to check his work.
I think he's "jumped the shark" - may have been great in his day, but sadly no longer up to the job, in my opinion. He's also the last person I'd ask abut new techniques or material - he's 100% stuck in the past.
The good news is that there were no major issues when we had his work checked, just a long list of minor issues to be resolved (some of which he no doubt would have sorted if we had harassed him for long enough, rather than giving up on him and moving on, but some of which he had been denying were an issue in the first place).
We've since moved on to Jason from Diverse Rigging - he is young, but very customer service orientated, and has been efficient and cost effective so far. I'd start there for sure.
Yep. He was recommended to me. Came up to Pittwater and gave me a quote - which blew out later by $1800 because he forgot to include the self-furler. I steamed my classic timber yacht up to Woolwich for him to do the job. Promised me 3 times he could do it in a week. Pulled the mast after a few days and after getting the **** knocked out of the topsides alongside his ****ty pontoon he said he couldn't start the job so I had to take the vessel across to Rushcutters Bay and pay $300 for a mooring. 3 weeks later he picked the boat up. Frigged around with it for 3 MONTHS. Wouldn't answer phone calls. Doesn't use the net. Ignored a registered letter. Finally got the boat back with all sorts of things either not finished or not done as quoted. WORST EXPERIENCE EVER. Just a liar and a conman. Loaded extras on top of the final bill - which I've refused to pay. I kinda hope he sues me. My lawyer will have him on toast. Stay well away. I've spoken to shipwrights in Pittwater after this and one of them laughed and said I was about the sixth person he'd heard a similar tale from. One classic vessel like mine had even had broken ribs from his work boat bashing up against it - apparently. I'm not surprised. They took no care with my vessel whatsoever. I was absolutely furious. Gave him several grand up front in cash too. Made no difference. Just treated me like a mug. He should get out of the game. He's past his used-by date.
Select to expand quoteSteelSapphire said..David88 said..
I've had 3 boats done with Joe and getting work done on a 4th now. I strayed to another rigger and it was a complete disaster and now I haeve engaged Joe to fix up the work or lack of work from my mistake of trying someone else. He has always been extremely helpful and knowledgeable when I have dealt with him. I guess it comes back to Quality, Speed, Price you can only pick two and he does good work at a reasonable price compared to other quotes from my experience. If you want a job done with him give at least a couple of months and leave him to his devices.
Yup, i'm a big exponent of "Good/Fast/Cheap - pick two". And I chose Joe based on quality and price, knowing that it would take time. But we booked the job 6 months before it started, and gave him a fixed deadline of 5 months after the job started. That's heaps of time. We were based at the marina, and walked past him every day, making a point not to hassle him until we got into the final month and our masts still weren't in (fully 4 months after they came out). We were the biggest job he had during that entire year, and he was fitting our job in around the myriad of small jobs, rather than the other way around. and still refusing to engage with any of the important ancillary elements (eg HF arial, Mast Boot, Replacement wiring etc etc etc) - he just stuck the mast back in without tackling any of those things (that can only be handled while the mast is out of the boat. That's taking the piss.
I think when you're spending $40k with someone you're entitled to a lot more than we got.
Your results may vary, but can only comment on our experience.
I think it's entirely fair what you say. These types of guys were good in the day, consequently had work thrown at them over the years, so much so that they have become complacent and forget about the customer to an extent.
