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Fitting a gravity drain holding tank

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Created by southace > 9 months ago, 1 May 2015
southace
SA, 4761 posts
1 May 2015 1:02PM
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$320 for tank and fittings , $340 for electric toilet and 5 hours labour x $30 per hour =$150

total cost = $810

A job I have been avoiding for many weeks now!





McNaughtical
NSW, 908 posts
1 May 2015 2:15PM
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Nice

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
2 May 2015 9:24PM
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$320 for tank and fittings , $340 for electric toilet and 5 hours labour x $30 per hour =$150
is the above a flat rate south ace
Any more photos coming Im interested it the out come mainly the fitting not the use

southace
SA, 4761 posts
2 May 2015 9:25PM
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It's not a flat out rate it's the time it could be completed!

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
2 May 2015 11:28PM
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southace said..
It's not a flat out rate it's the time it could be completed!


just wondered how many spirit nips in the over time allowance

southace
SA, 4761 posts
7 May 2015 6:00PM
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Drilled some holes and ran the suction hose......god that stuff is hard to use and its hard to match the elbows with the hose diameter!




cisco
QLD, 12320 posts
7 May 2015 11:40PM
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I just would not be able to sleep with a tank full of my dung hanging over my bunk.

southace
SA, 4761 posts
7 May 2015 11:19PM
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It's over my feet CiSCO and it's only full in national parks and during the day in the marina!

nswsailor
NSW, 1429 posts
7 May 2015 11:50PM
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Especially with only that plastic clip holding it in place!!!

southace
SA, 4761 posts
7 May 2015 11:26PM
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nswsailor said..
Especially with only that plastic clip holding it in place!!!


The same plastic clip on my last tank lasted 5000 nm , 2 cyclones , 65knot weather fronts!

nswsailor
NSW, 1429 posts
8 May 2015 12:04AM
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What are the tank dimensions Southace?

southace
SA, 4761 posts
12 May 2015 8:01PM
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Electric toilet and holding tank all stable so far!






cisco
QLD, 12320 posts
13 May 2015 11:59AM
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With a head and shower space like that one southace, you will be able to save water by showering with a friend.

andy59
QLD, 1153 posts
13 May 2015 12:21PM
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is the safe for the toilet paper?

southace
SA, 4761 posts
13 May 2015 5:32PM
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Job complete!

add 1 hour labour and $50 worth of hose clamps and another hour for head F*cks!

it was good to get a core sample !







HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
13 May 2015 6:26PM
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Question South ace
Where abouts is the outlet tap situated the Dump Tap when your not in a national park above the water line or just below?

southace
SA, 4761 posts
13 May 2015 6:04PM
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The sea cock is below the water line under the sink it's just the original 1/12 outlet from the old jabsco hand pump loo.

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
14 May 2015 12:30AM
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southace said..
The sea cock is below the water line under the sink it's just the original 1/12 outlet from the old jabsco hand pump loo.


is that 1/2 inch or 1 1/2 inches?

southace
SA, 4761 posts
14 May 2015 12:02AM
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1 1/2 !

frant
VIC, 1230 posts
14 May 2015 9:29AM
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Read topic title in poor light conditions. Thought it said FILLING a gravity holding tank. That's easy. S(h)it above the tank and let gravity do the work or s(h)it below the tank and pump the product uphill. Do not try and use a pointy stick for this purpose.

frant
VIC, 1230 posts
14 May 2015 9:39AM
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In my Noelex I simply used a 25 litre heavy duty (black) jerry can strapped next to the bowl. Had two of them so that when one was full could simply swap tanks over and carry the full one to a shore side toilet block and empty.
As Cisco said. Sleeping with a full bucket of **** hanging overhead is not sexy and it should not take long for Eau de latrine to permeate your cabin.

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
16 May 2015 3:57PM
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frant said..
In my Noelex I simply used a 25 litre heavy duty (black) jerry can strapped next to the bowl. Had two of them so that when one was full could simply swap tanks over and carry the full one to a shore side toilet block and empty.
As Cisco said. Sleeping with a full bucket of **** hanging overhead is not sexy and it should not take long for Eau de latrine to permeate your cabin.


Rumor has it that South Ace's ** dont stink Frant

southace
SA, 4761 posts
17 May 2015 10:16AM
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Well for your information Frant it's not a bucket it's actually a chemical resistant completely sealed holding tank far more Advanced than your jerry can procedure how sexy would it be pumping your poo into a jerry can and having to carry them ashore to a toilet block!

Since you all seem experts on where to fit holding tanks please tell where I should have fitted it , and where you have yours located?

frant
VIC, 1230 posts
17 May 2015 11:13AM
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southace said..
Well for your information Frant it's not a bucket it's actually a chemical resistant completely sealed holding tank far more Advanced than your jerry can procedure how sexy would it be pumping your poo into a jerry can and having to carry them ashore to a toilet block!

Since you all seem experts on where to fit holding tanks please tell where I should have fitted it , and where you have yours located?


Please don't worry about me south ace. If you are happy with that bucket of **** hanging overhead then be happy

frant
VIC, 1230 posts
17 May 2015 12:23PM
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South ace. Going to leave pulling your leg and barbs about buckets of **** overhead aside.
Please tell me that you have used correctly barbed elbow fittings and not PVC plumbing fittings for the elbows to your tank. You should have double hose clamps on all hose connections, particularly below waterline ie to your through hulls.
Please don't take offence, comments are serious.

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
17 May 2015 5:24PM
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look like bolt clamps to me

Crusoe
QLD, 1192 posts
17 May 2015 8:51PM
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One of the things I wished I had done when fitting the hoses to elbows etc, when I installed my toilet, was to heat the hose with a hot air gun to ensure the hose clamps were able to deform the hose into a nice seal. Not much heat, just enough to soften them up a bit. This was recommended to me by a shipwright and he said to do it with every hose even if it is easy to get on. I do this all the time now.

southace
SA, 4761 posts
17 May 2015 8:55PM
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All the suction hose had to be heated with boiling hot water...... It is nearly impossible to get the dam hose off the fittings now unless I use a heat gun which I currently don't own. Why would I need double hose clamps ? Actually I don't really even need hose clamps!

I have had my survey and not due for another one until the insurance asks for one....actually they didn't even ask for one when I brought the boat!

i have had surveyors in the past suggest that I should have double hose clamps yet they don't condem your boat for that.

The only time i nearly lost a boat due to flooding was when the Sea cock snapped off well before the hose clamp failed!

If some how the new hose clamp below the waterline fails and the hose somehow heats to 80 degrees and slides of the hose barbs and water comes in through the closed seacock it will just go into my shower sump bilge where then it's pumped back out over the side and if that fails it will over flow into my next bilge which also gets pumped out over the side and if that fails it then goes into my next bilge which also gets pumped out over the side.

i don't take offence and I don't judge your comments seriously I just laugh and wonder if your name is really Frant = Rant


frant
VIC, 1230 posts
17 May 2015 9:51PM
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You did use PVC plumbing fittings didn't you south ace. If your boat is ever misfortunate enough to be flooded then you might have trouble with your insurance payout as the loss assessor will jump on the lack of double clamps and non regulation fittings even if that is not the cause of flooding..
however I am going to chuckle when the PVC fitting fails and your cabin is inundated with ****.

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
17 May 2015 11:32PM
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yup.....rant !

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
17 May 2015 11:52PM
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SandS said..

yup.....rant !




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