Select to expand quoteBoatin said..
Take solace in the old saying "There are those that have AND there are those that are going to !" A bit like landing with your gear up........
I guess you would have heard of the bird with no legs, Boatin that flys at 90 kilometers an hour called the "oui me doodle" bird lives in New Zealand apparently
Some say as it tries to land @ 90 klms an hour and bounces across the water it calls out "Oui me doodle Oui me doodle "
Ill leave the rest to your imagination 
At the end of the day SouthAce do you put running aground down to your stupidity or your carelessness?
I put it down to miss-judgment Rant something you don't see in your perfect world.
Select to expand quotefrant said..
At the end of the day SouthAce do you put running aground down to your stupidity or your carelessness?
I classify it as being part of the game. I have run aground in varying degrees (ie bounced or got hung up) and learnt something each time. 
Exactly Cisco. It happened top me 3 times. first time in hawkesburry river on route to brooklyn. managed to push off with a paddle board paddle. lesson here was , use a map in areas you're unsure of.
2nd time i was at anchor at watsons bay. keeping an eye on the boat, but not the tide, it was the last 2 hours of outgoing tide. within half an hour the boat was nearly on the beach. luckily some good samaritan towed me off.
3rd time was up lane cove sailing. weird feeling with sails up and not moving. took a while to realise! used the paddle board paddle again to push off.
The main lesson learned was always check the tide. i have no instruments like depth sounder etc, and if I'm unsure after checking charts, ill use the paddle board paddle that extends to about 10foot. i only draw 4 foot.
i guess when i get the next boat, it may happen again.
Oh check the tides! Yes I agree! Funny when I'm in home waters I don't tend to check tides ,charts and weather but I think I might need a refresher! Haha
I only ran aground once in Great sandy straits up the East Coast and once on a Bommie out of Lizzard Island Even following all my charts tides and instincts! t
then to go for a Sunday arvo Motor in my local waters and run aground......that's classic! Well really I was sounding the green line I had anchored there before!
Select to expand quoteSectorsteve said..
Frant-------------
Sorry if I disagree with you, Frant sounds like he knows what he is talking about and no,I'm not saying that others don't know what they are talking about.
It is very difficult to judge how a post is meant to be interpreted as it is impossible to inject the nuances that make the spoken word so much more communicative.
Anything that is said in here is an opinon and should be treated as such, there is no gospel.
I find it very disappointing that some people on this forum are derogatory and very negative towards other less experienced members and yet on the other hand there have been times when the forum has come together as a team and worked like a team.
Nice processing Loosechange!
I enjoy the forum and take some tongue and check like naming HO2 and Rant we all have our experiences and our lesser and hopefully learn from each other to make a better sailor.
I do think occasionally we do get some new members that perhaps don't express them selfs as much as others and perhaps don't show there pics of there boats and get involved in general chat it just seems there remarks are on here to stir the pot?
I feel sorry for them, even Len I often think how he's going!
Select to expand quotesouthace said..
I only ran aground once in Great sandy straits up the East Coast .........................
Well that is mandatory!!!
If you haven't been aground in TGS Straits you weren't really there!!
He may sound like knows what hes talking about but reading his posts is exhausting. No one likes an arrogant know all. Then again these are merely a bunch of letters we're reading. In reality he might be a selfless person serving servants. Doesnt come across that way but stranger things have happened...
Select to expand quotesouthace said...
Oh check the tides! Yes I agree! Funny when I'm in home waters I don't tend to check tides ,charts and weather but I think I might need a refresher! Haha
True aye! Like really check em and know where the tide is at in its cycle...vital. after my groundings i always check. Even in the harbour.
Unforantly for me I ran aground on the start of the dodge tide...just a occasional tide you get in S.A waters .....the tide forgets to do its stuff and so does the sailior!
Yep, the Great Sandy (and narrow) Straits have taught me not to be a lazy navigator. On the plus side, not to many rocky bottoms there. The locals seem to have it all worked out but us visitors soon learn to be on our toes.
After coming up the Caniapa Passage and Moreton Bay I had really had enough of zig-zagging through narrow and shallow passages by the time I reached Harvey Bay.
I've run aground in the Trinity Inlet shipping channel. It's busy so I stick to the edges. I found the edge, 6m to 1m in a blink of an eye. Luckily I can lift my centreboard and rudder. 
.... The embarrassing bit is I've done it twice.
Select to expand quoteSectorsteve said..
He may sound like knows what hes talking about but reading his posts is exhausting. No one likes an arrogant know all. Then again these are merely a bunch of letters we're reading. In reality he might be a selfless person serving servants. Doesnt come across that way but stranger things have happened...
As I said, the nuances that we employ in speech to convey meaning and emphasis are not available to us in the written form. While it may seem that he comes across as arrogant, I for one will always read and digest what he has to say. Sadly there are some on this forum whose posts I just can't be bothered to read any more.
Does that now make me a F***wit as well?
Oh I admit so did I but I was in the main shipping channel and it wasn't aground it was mud and sluch Slammin!
Select to expand quotecisco said...southace said..
I only ran aground once in Great sandy straits up the East Coast .........................
Well that is mandatory!!!
If you haven't been aground in TGS Straits you weren't really there!!
Been through twice, once with you. Once in a Valiant 40 with 2 metre draft. Haven't touched yet.
Today coming back from the Royal Motor at low tide I came around the channel mark and headed for my mooring as per normal. Glanced at the depth and it went from 0.2 to 0.1. S..t, quick turn to port and deeper water. Sometimes I don't bother putting the sounder on when just pottering around locally.
Not long after taking delivery of the Columbia I was coming back into the Saint Kilda marina under motor as a storm was building when the motor stopped. I could not put sails up as I had no room to put around and there was an strengthing onshore wind. I dropped anchor and called Coast Guard.
They advised they had a distress call in the Bay and would get to me. To cut the story I was washed up almost onto the beach ,bythis time storm had hit. My family stepped off the boat and waded ashore. The Columbia yachties in the marina got about 20 guys together and turned the boat and with the help of a large motor cruiser was towed off as each large wave e went under her.
I had visions of being on TV for all the wrong reasons
Select to expand quoteLooseChange said..Sectorsteve said..
He may sound like knows what hes talking about but reading his posts is exhausting. No one likes an arrogant know all. Then again these are merely a bunch of letters we're reading. In reality he might be a selfless person serving servants. Doesnt come across that way but stranger things have happened...
As I said, the nuances that we employ in speech to convey meaning and emphasis are not available to us in the written form. While it may seem that he comes across as arrogant, I for one will always read and digest what he has to say. Sadly there are some on this forum whose posts I just can't be bothered to read any more.
Does that now make me a F***wit as well?
Does that now make me a F***wit as well? No your just loose change you cant be every thing loose
Aground at Great Sandy Straights. Love this guy's attitude. I believe he just floated off at high tide.
Select to expand quotesouthace said...
Oh I admit so did I but I was in the main shipping channel and it wasn't aground it was mud and sluch Slammin!
Yep that's what i mean. I WAS in the channel. Bet we hit the same spot. South edge maybe 250m give or take b4 the mangroves start?
I mention it because isn't someone due up here? Better to have previous knowledge.
I have touched the bottom twice sailing out of the river in my yacht, both times I managed to heel the boat enough to sail off. The problem sailing out of a tidal river is not allowing for the current which can catch you out and have you snag the edge of that sandbar.
With my fishing vessel I have been aground several times. Always in the most embarrassing positions. Mostly before the age of GPS and leaving harbour in the fog. Couple of times maneuvering near the wharf and the current catching me out. There are always pensioners watching too! Several times we have been sitting about having breakfast as the sun comes up with the deckhands talking to the people on the fishing boat that is parked on the bar next to us. One of the problems you can have following each other out in the dark!
DrRog,
Thats a good video.
The guy has several clips on youtube. Some are well worth watching.
From memory I think you can find him by searching on Nightingale.
Oh how I love having two keels. Warlock dries out upright and floats off with the tide. I simply pretend my grounding was on purpose
Select to expand quotesouthace said..
I once seen a woman sail into Mooloolaba and run aground in her new ferro fijien she hit the bank just before the duck pond around 2am. by sunrise she was asleep on the high side along side the cabin.
We tryed towing the 20 something tonne concrete with my mates 60 foot motor junk.....with no movement what so ever! I just watched! Then dads army arrived and tried again with there Shark cat and twin 140s with no avail Note by this time she was high and dry!
By 1300 the yacht was completely submerged. Following day she was pumped dry on the rising tide......
I managed to take a peak in side....full sized house hold fridge/freezer Etc......
A few cheap big battery's where exchanged to my mate that tried the tow....the rest was history!
Apparently she had no coverage for insurance and the marine yard took ownership of her new yacht!
although Im fully insured that story was in the back of my mind one I realised I was going to lay dry all night. Moral! Make sure you can sit on both sides without flooding on rising tides!
You can see my mark where I lost my Marsh anchor...she ran aground on the green island bank!
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Okay.... this sounds like a dumb question, but how can you make sure you can sit on both sides without flooding on rising tides?
I sailed through TGS last year in May, north to south at night without using my motor once. Never touched bottom.
I have to admit that I was very nervous as I'd bottomed out twice in Gladstone Harbour and three times at 1770 not long beforehand and had been given the rundown about it. Got to be thankful for good luck!
Select to expand quoteMcNaughtical said..
Okay.... this sounds like a dumb question, but how can you make sure you can sit on both sides without flooding on rising tides?
Sometimes if the seacocks are left open for the sink, as the water rises the sink can overflow into the cabin before the hull is buoyant enough to prevent it. If your lucky you just get some sand in your sink.
My last boat I fitted the bilge pump outlet in the transom !
My new yacht has the bilge outlet on the Port side just aft of midships it was submerged for a number of hours and was blowing bubbles when I was laying on port side while activating the pump!
