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Radar, keep it or not ?

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Created by Newmo > 9 months ago, 26 Feb 2018
Ramona
NSW, 7584 posts
4 Apr 2018 5:51PM
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As long as you realize the radar only shows what is on it's horizon. It may be displaying the coastline 50 feet up cliffs and hills and quite a lot of rocks at sea level not showing. It would be rare that the coastline on the radar matches the chart. Radar is only as good as the radar operator!

Datawiz
VIC, 605 posts
4 Apr 2018 6:31PM
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Ramona said..
As long as you realize the radar only shows what is on it's horizon. It may be displaying the coastline 50 feet up cliffs and hills and quite a lot of rocks at sea level not showing. It would be rare that the coastline on the radar matches the chart. Radar is only as good as the radar operator!


Thanks for mentioning those finer points Ramona - yep, it's only as good as the operator...
regards,
allan

Jolene
WA, 1576 posts
4 Apr 2018 5:09PM
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Ramona said..
As long as you realize the radar only shows what is on it's horizon. It may be displaying the coastline 50 feet up cliffs and hills and quite a lot of rocks at sea level not showing. It would be rare that the coastline on the radar matches the chart. Radar is only as good as the radar operator!



Correct,,, and when the shore line is within sight of the radar, the radar return will or should correspond with the chart usually showing a discrepancy due to breakers or swell.
Its not uncommon to see markers that have moved from their original charted position and in some of the lesser surveyed areas, land masses, islands, breakwaters etc that are incorrectly maped on electronic charts. Radar is just a great tool to give you a realtime image of where you are and whats around you.

lydia
1796 posts
5 Apr 2018 6:49AM
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Was out on a grey misty Macquarie Harbour yesterday.
Electronic charting (Updated) was not even close on even major turning marks.
Locals use there own waypoints.
Limited vis so radar was best option by far even to find turning marks.
So like everything else, horses for courses.
What was interesting was that Navionics did not even have the land mass anywhere near accurate, like a good 1/2 n mile at one point.

Ramona
NSW, 7584 posts
5 Apr 2018 9:29AM
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lydia said..
Was out on a grey misty Macquarie Harbour yesterday.
Electronic charting (Updated) was not even close on even major turning marks.
Locals use there own waypoints.
Limited vis so radar was best option by far even to find turning marks.
So like everything else, horses for courses.
What was interesting was that Navionics did not even have the land mass anywhere near accurate, like a good 1/2 n mile at one point.


Download the chart from this site. Calibrate and load into your chart plotter. These are real electronic charts and very accurate. Heed the warning on Navionics charts.

www.rms.nsw.gov.au/maritime/using-waterways/maps/boating-maps.html

These are the charts the Msb uses to plot your mooring. The picture is a segment of my home port. I find the accuracy is about a metre. Lat and Long are on this chart so anyone visiting this port can calibrate and use this chart to enter port. Just follow the dotted line.
I have entered and left this port many times in heavy fog using radar or a plotter and there are advantages to both. Big screen plotter is probably the less confusing.





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