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Created by SandS > 9 months ago, 22 Sep 2018
SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
22 Sep 2018 8:02PM
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question ........ has anyone had experience in finding / using a paint on version of a gel coat restorer ?

i have a lot of "nonslip " areas that are not suitable to apply and polish with a lambs wool buffer .

so without painting with a polyurethane , is there a paint on product that will restore /protect the rough non slip areas ?

Ramona
NSW, 7653 posts
23 Sep 2018 7:36AM
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I would suggest something like Kiwigrip.
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/Best-Deck-Paint-Colour?page=1

DAMA
QLD, 239 posts
23 Sep 2018 8:28AM
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A cleaner like this ?
www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--pure-oceans-non-skid-deck-cleaner-quart--9397472

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
23 Sep 2018 9:30AM
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yes may be something like the westmarine brushed into the non slip may help protect the existing .

i don,t want to get involved in a major painting project with kiwi paint ...... not sure how that would go onto the existing rough nonslip surface ? that stuff is to create non slip , i thought ?

nswsailor
NSW, 1441 posts
23 Sep 2018 9:07PM
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maybe this, www.whitworths.com.au/starbrite-non-skid-deck-cleaner-946ml

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
24 Sep 2018 9:53PM
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looks ok as well ......good ol whitworths !!

2bish
TAS, 822 posts
25 Sep 2018 2:16PM
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SandS said..
question ........ has anyone had experience in finding / using a paint on version of a gel coat restorer ?

i have a lot of "nonslip " areas that are not suitable to apply and polish with a lambs wool buffer .

so without painting with a polyurethane , is there a paint on product that will restore /protect the rough non slip areas ?



SandS, is your non slip area a textured surface molded into the gelcoat? I think I'll give the Starbright product a try too.

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
25 Sep 2018 6:48PM
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2bish said..

SandS said..
question ........ has anyone had experience in finding / using a paint on version of a gel coat restorer ?

i have a lot of "nonslip " areas that are not suitable to apply and polish with a lambs wool buffer .

so without painting with a polyurethane , is there a paint on product that will restore /protect the rough non slip areas ?




SandS, is your non slip area a textured surface molded into the gelcoat? I think I'll give the Starbright product a try too.


yes 2bish . likewise .

southace
SA, 4783 posts
25 Sep 2018 6:50PM
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We use these on white boats non skid decks can be brought from supermarkets (don't tell anyone) use with water and can also be used on leather or many other surfaces. Also acetone is a great cleaner for gelcoated surfaces.

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
25 Sep 2018 7:32PM
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southace said..

We use these on white boats non skid decks can be brought from supermarkets (don't tell anyone) use with water and can also be used on leather or many other surfaces. Also acetone is a great cleaner for gelcoated surfaces.


what about an actual gel coat restorer/protection for the non slip ? this is just a cleaner ?

southace
SA, 4783 posts
25 Sep 2018 7:16PM
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SandS said..

southace said..

We use these on white boats non skid decks can be brought from supermarkets (don't tell anyone) use with water and can also be used on leather or many other surfaces. Also acetone is a great cleaner for gelcoated surfaces.



what about an actual gel coat restorer/protection for the non slip ? this is just a cleaner ?


Marine clean which is acid based is fine use a small brush and wipe with damp rag. K&h made a great gelcoat restorer gel years back but they went into receivership a few years back. Try the block I have suggested with water and also try acetone both works well.

southace
SA, 4783 posts
25 Sep 2018 7:21PM
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SandS said..

southace said..

We use these on white boats non skid decks can be brought from supermarkets (don't tell anyone) use with water and can also be used on leather or many other surfaces. Also acetone is a great cleaner for gelcoated surfaces.



what about an actual gel coat restorer/protection for the non slip ? this is just a cleaner ?


To actualy restore the gelcoat you will need to polish and add luxurue back into the pores of the gelcoat which makes it slippery hence why I tape of the non skid areas when i cut and polish. Hope this helps.

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
25 Sep 2018 8:06PM
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southace said..

SandS said..


southace said..

We use these on white boats non skid decks can be brought from supermarkets (don't tell anyone) use with water and can also be used on leather or many other surfaces. Also acetone is a great cleaner for gelcoated surfaces.




what about an actual gel coat restorer/protection for the non slip ? this is just a cleaner ?



To actualy restore the gelcoat you will need to polish and add luxurue back into the pores of the gelcoat which makes it slippery hence why I tape of the non skid areas when i cut and polish. Hope this helps.


But why not try to restore the nonslip ? it will still be nonslip due to the texture ? i just want to protect the surface of the nonslip . its clean .
I am looking for the best product to achieve that . .............the texture will destroy to many lambs wool covers if i buff same as smooth gelcoat .

southace
SA, 4783 posts
25 Sep 2018 7:44PM
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If it's a original non slip gelcoat deck the only way to restore it is polish it and fill the tiny pores with wax which will hold wax and make it slippery. If you want to clean it use acetone or the White block that I suggested . I wish I had modern non slip decks on my yacht!

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
25 Sep 2018 8:18PM
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If it's a original non slip gelcoat deck the only way to restore it is polish it and fill the tiny pores with wax which will hold wax and make it slippery. If you want to clean it use acetone or the White block that I suggested . I wish I had modern non slip decks on my yacht!


yeah its the orig molded nonslip gelcoat deck with some smooth areas

southace
SA, 4783 posts
25 Sep 2018 8:09PM
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Or cut it and polish and then wipe clean with acetone.

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
25 Sep 2018 8:50PM
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Or cut it and polish and then wipe clean with acetone.


what would you polish it with , some kind of semi soft brush ? ..............then will the acetone only take the excess polish off ?

southace
SA, 4783 posts
25 Sep 2018 8:26PM
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A nappy willl do the job fine. Personally I would not wax or try to rejuvenate a non skid surface with wax. Juat try acetone and white blocks as I suggested.

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
25 Sep 2018 9:24PM
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A nappy willl do the job fine. Personally I would not wax or try to rejuvenate a non skid surface with wax. Juat try acetone and white blocks as I suggested.


the magic white block sounds like some kind of mumbo jumbo black magic !!!! made in china , wtf is it ? how is that going to protect the gel coat ? now i,m just more confused !!! hahahaahahahah magic ****en white blocks !!!!....

southace
SA, 4783 posts
25 Sep 2018 9:11PM
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SandS said..

southace said..
A nappy willl do the job fine. Personally I would not wax or try to rejuvenate a non skid surface with wax. Juat try acetone and white blocks as I suggested.



the magic white block sounds like some kind of mumbo jumbo black magic !!!! made in china , wtf is it ? how is that going to protect the gel coat ? now i,m just more confused !!! hahahaahahahah magic ****en white blocks !!!!....


It's just a cleaner kind of like wet rub. Works a treat!

nswsailor
NSW, 1441 posts
29 Sep 2018 8:37PM
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Well I tried the white magic and there an't no magic

But I used this below about $3 from "The Reject shop"




And this is the results.







You can see the difference. I did it again today and it came up even better.

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
30 Sep 2018 8:26AM
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nswsailor said..
Well I tried the white magic and there an't no magic

But I used this below about $3 from "The Reject shop"




And this is the results.







You can see the difference. I did it again today and it came up even better.


good job ! from here that looks like a reasonably modern non slip, built in to the deck ,with part of it and the smooth gelcoat painted with a non slip paint of some sort . mine is a must heaver, deeper /rougher non slip older , maybe .

good move with the mold killler though !

cisco
QLD, 12350 posts
30 Sep 2018 10:48AM
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nswsailor said..
Well I tried the white magic and there an't no magic

But I used this below about $3 from "The Reject shop"




And this is the results.







You can see the difference. I did it again today and it came up even better.


That stuff looks to be doing a really good job cleaning the gelcoat.

Do you follow it up with some sort of polish or coating to protect it??

nswsailor
NSW, 1441 posts
30 Sep 2018 12:01PM
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cisco said..

nswsailor said..
Well I tried the white magic and there an't no magic

But I used this below about $3 from "The Reject shop"




And this is the results.







You can see the difference. I did it again today and it came up even better.



That stuff looks to be doing a really good job cleaning the gelcoat.

Do you follow it up with some sort of polish or coating to protect it??


Yes, that's the next job with a Non Wax polish this week. Just hoping for a shower of rain to wash the salt off

cisco
QLD, 12350 posts
30 Sep 2018 6:48PM
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So what is the Non Wax polish you use??

Jode5
QLD, 853 posts
30 Sep 2018 8:23PM
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cisco said..
So what is the Non Wax polish you use??


Why do you uses a no wax polish? I look for the best wax possible so as to seal the gel coat.

southace
SA, 4783 posts
30 Sep 2018 8:09PM
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Jode5 said..

cisco said..
So what is the Non Wax polish you use??



Why do you uses a no wax polish? I look for the best wax possible so as to seal the gel coat.


do you wax and polish your non skid areas jode5 ? I'm not sure there's such a thing of a no wax polish if as it repels water it's going to be slippery.

southace
SA, 4783 posts
30 Sep 2018 8:16PM
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nswsailor said..
Well I tried the white magic and there an't no magic

But I used this below about $3 from "The Reject shop"




And this is the results.







You can see the difference. I did it again today and it came up even better.


If you have mould growing on your deck yes mould cleaner will remove it. The white magjic blocks work a treat on Dimond style non skid gelcoat to remove black marks it won't work on sandpaper style non skid two pack.

Jode5
QLD, 853 posts
30 Sep 2018 9:34PM
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southace said..

Jode5 said..


cisco said..
So what is the Non Wax polish you use??




Why do you uses a no wax polish? I look for the best wax possible so as to seal the gel coat.



do you wax and polish your non skid areas jode5 ? I'm not sure there's such a thing of a no wax polish if as it repels water it's going to be slippery.


No. Only polish the shiny Gel coat. I high pressure clean the non skid after every use. If i get any bad marks on the non skid, I scrub it with a bit of Jiff cream cleaner.

nswsailor
NSW, 1441 posts
30 Sep 2018 11:10PM
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If you use a wax based polish you have to go to great lengths removing it if you want to do repairs to the glass/gel as wax will produce an edge to the repair. I think that's right. When using a mould for fibreglassing you do coat it with wax so it will release from the mould.

Using non wax polish is a short term thing, it has to be repeated from time to time. I've used the 3m ones as well as ordinary car polish and the usual collection of high priced marine ones [which only have a different label on]

Oh yes, don't polish the non skid areas

Jode5
QLD, 853 posts
1 Oct 2018 10:49PM
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nswsailor said..
If you use a wax based polish you have to go to great lengths removing it if you want to do repairs to the glass/gel as wax will produce an edge to the repair. I think that's right. When using a mould for fibreglassing you do coat it with wax so it will release from the mould.

Using non wax polish is a short term thing, it has to be repeated from time to time. I've used the 3m ones as well as ordinary car polish and the usual collection of high priced marine ones [which only have a different label on]

Oh yes, don't polish the non skid areas


The wax I use is 'Collinite' which is an aeronautical and marine wax and as we all know anything with the words aeronautical or marine on will mean twice the price. As this product has both words on it, it make it about 4 times the cost It is actually a very good wax and is easy to apply to a good surface.
marinetradesupplies.com.au/product/collinite-no-925-fiberglass-boat-wax-last-step-gel-protectant-16-oz/



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