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tasman 22

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Created by vandermoeler > 9 months ago, 9 Mar 2021
vandermoeler
6 posts
9 Mar 2021 7:16PM
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fairly new to this group and have started to save a Tasman 22 and would like others to share with me their tasman 22 stories

Ramona
NSW, 7646 posts
10 Mar 2021 8:31AM
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Probably not that many people on this forum old enough to remember the Tasman 22. They were certainly popular in NSW for JOG racing in the 1960's. The reverse sheer and bubble cabin probably did not appeal to many. I never owned or sailed one but I liked the concept. There was a rare trailer sailer version for sale on the South Coast awhile back and there was an extremely deep keel version for sale in Sydney recently. What do you own?

vandermoeler
6 posts
26 Mar 2021 2:45PM
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Ramona said..
Probably not that many people on this forum old enough to remember the Tasman 22. They were certainly popular in NSW for JOG racing in the 1960's. The reverse sheer and bubble cabin probably did not appeal to many. I never owned or sailed one but I liked the concept. There was a rare trailer sailer version for sale on the South Coast awhile back and there was an extremely deep keel version for sale in Sydney recently. What do you own?


I actually own a tasman 22 currently and am that old i actually build some of these back when , including the one Kay cottee owned . it was a deep fin keel version .the trailer sailer version you saw may have been the one that Ron Miller from Peter Green shipchanderly in San Soicy built and fitted out himself , it had small carvings on some of the cupboard doors

DrogueOne
VIC, 204 posts
1 Apr 2021 4:48PM
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Hi Vandermoeler, never heard of a Tasman 22, went looking for some info and Nothing!
Ramona's comment about the reverse sheer has me fascinated, there are so few designs that use it. Do you have any pictures you can share? how is your progress with your re-build?

r13
NSW, 1587 posts
1 Apr 2021 6:07PM
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Yes finding info is near impossible. Probably Seacraft magazine or Modern Boating did a review or test sail of it when it first launched but a search doesn't bring up any links. See here a post of 2017 re outboards;

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/Outboard-for-22foot-yacht?page=1

There was one for sale around midyear last year down at Cronulla for $1500 needing refurbishing. Can't find it listed now.

Ramona
NSW, 7646 posts
1 Apr 2021 6:15PM
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DrogueOne said..
Hi Vandermoeler, never hears of a Tasman 22, went looking for some info and Nothing!
Ramona's comment about the reverse sheer has me fascinated, there are so few designs that use it. Do you have any pictures you can share? how is your progress with your re-build?


www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/Outboard-for-22foot-yacht?page=1

There used to be heaps of pictures online. Strange how they are hard to come by. Have to wait till the next one comes on the market.

vandermoeler
6 posts
7 Apr 2021 3:08PM
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Ramona said..

DrogueOne said..
Hi Vandermoeler, never hears of a Tasman 22, went looking for some info and Nothing!
Ramona's comment about the reverse sheer has me fascinated, there are so few designs that use it. Do you have any pictures you can share? how is your progress with your re-build?



www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/Outboard-for-22foot-yacht?page=1

There used to be heaps of pictures online. Strange how they are hard to come by. Have to wait till the next one comes on the market.






Ramona
NSW, 7646 posts
7 Apr 2021 7:01PM
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They definitely need a two-tone cabin paint treatment to reduce the hump-like appearance, something like a dark blue strip around the window height.

cisco
QLD, 12348 posts
8 Apr 2021 8:24AM
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It looks very similar to the English Trekka design.

www.yachtandboat.com/listing/laurent-giles-trekka-22-foot-yacht/


48north.com/cruising/cruising-stories/trekka-sails-again/

Ramona
NSW, 7646 posts
8 Apr 2021 8:49AM
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Interesting that in 1996 someone would choose that design. The colour scheme definitely helps with the appearance of the reverse sheer. The reverse sheer gives a much larger interior space but some people don't like the look.

garymalmgren
1222 posts
8 Apr 2021 7:59AM
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Interesting that in 1996 someone would choose that design.

Even more so in 2021.

gary

Gravy7
NSW, 242 posts
9 Apr 2021 12:01PM
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A more modern design with reverse sheer is the 33' Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 349 of which 49 have been sold in Australia.




Ramona
NSW, 7646 posts
9 Apr 2021 5:59PM
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Clever design of the cabin window certainly helps soften the reverse sheer.

Gravy7
NSW, 242 posts
9 Apr 2021 10:45PM
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And gives a great view from inside!

Ramona
NSW, 7646 posts
10 Apr 2021 8:16AM
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Not much privacy on that boat!

Looks like they got the cabin sole from Bunnings.

Azure305
NSW, 402 posts
30 Apr 2021 11:08AM
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Is this a Tasman?
Moored just down from me - looks about 22'
Reverse sheer is more noticeable with a better angle than this shot.

shaggybaxter
QLD, 2586 posts
30 Apr 2021 12:46PM
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Gravy7 said..
A more modern design with reverse sheer is the 33' Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 349 of which 49 have been sold in Australia.





Never noticed these before. No backstay, chine well forward, reverse sheer, dual rudders, am assuming its beamy. That's a lot of design innovation in a 35' cruiser, good on 'em. Would be interesting to see how it sailed.

r13
NSW, 1587 posts
30 Apr 2021 6:19PM
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Azure305 said..
Is this a Tasman?
Moored just down from me - looks about 22'
Reverse sheer is more noticeable with a better angle than this shot.


Believe this is an Admiral 21 which has even less info on the web than the Tasman 22.

Ramona
NSW, 7646 posts
30 Apr 2021 6:29PM
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Azure305 said..
Is this a Tasman?
Moored just down from me - looks about 22'
Reverse sheer is more noticeable with a better angle than this shot.


I think it's a Midnight 21. NZ trailer sailer, either lifting keel or fixed. There was one moored here years ago.

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/Boat-review-midnight-marine-sailing-boat?page=1

www.maritimenz.govt.nz/commercial/safety/accidents-reporting/accident-reports/documents/Unnamed-Yacht-051162-mnz-accident-report2005.pdf

r13
NSW, 1587 posts
30 Apr 2021 7:06PM
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Certainly looks like it. In my head I have Admiral 21 so will dig further to see if that computes as regards yachts built and sold over here - else you are correct as usual.

www.nztya.nz/blog/623058

www.nztya.nz/blog/623059

Admiral 21 is mentioned here;

www.nyc.org.au/sailing/classes-sailed/

Azure305
NSW, 402 posts
30 Apr 2021 11:01PM
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Ramona said..


Azure305 said..
Is this a Tasman?
Moored just down from me - looks about 22'
Reverse sheer is more noticeable with a better angle than this shot.




I think it's a Midnight 21. NZ trailer sailer, either lifting keel or fixed. There was one moored here years ago.

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/Boat-review-midnight-marine-sailing-boat?page=1

www.maritimenz.govt.nz/commercial/safety/accidents-reporting/accident-reports/documents/Unnamed-Yacht-051162-mnz-accident-report2005.pdf



I think you're right. It's called Midnight Blue and has a fixed keel, so that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification, i was never sure what it was.

Ramona
NSW, 7646 posts
1 May 2021 8:23AM
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r13 said..
Certainly looks like it. In my head I have Admiral 21 so will dig further to see if that computes as regards yachts built and sold over here - else you are correct as usual.

www.nztya.nz/blog/623058

www.nztya.nz/blog/623059

Admiral 21 is mentioned here;

www.nyc.org.au/sailing/classes-sailed/


The Admiral 21 does not have a reverse sheer. Strange how they are hard to find in an image search now. They were fairly common years ago and still see the occasional one come up for sale.

Here is one just up the road.

www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/albion-park-rail/sail-boats/admiral-21-foot-sail-boat/1270257876

vandermoeler
6 posts
4 May 2021 9:48AM
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one I built in the 70's

tassygunny
2 posts
10 Mar 2022 11:15AM
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Hi all. I have a Tasman 22, it's the best boat I have sailed and owned and have had a few. Handles very well in swell larger then it's rated for due to its design. Hull was designed by joe Adam's, will send some photos of mine, unfortunately am going to have to either sell her or at least a share in the near






















tassygunny
2 posts
10 Mar 2022 11:18AM
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Can't recommend these boats enough



r13
NSW, 1587 posts
10 Mar 2022 5:23PM
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If I recall right the Tasman 22 was not designed by Joe Adams rather Bob Holmes and Gunter Heuchmer, the latter the builder who went on to do the Spider range. As has been said a good boat but a tad polarising with the reverse sheer. Shame they didn't put a fractional rig on it but such rigs didn't come into vogue till the mid 70s.

Chris 249
NSW, 3419 posts
10 Mar 2022 7:25PM
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Yep, my memory certainly says it wasn't Joe. Was Doug Chalmers perhaps involved?

The pics on the slips bring back memories; that was where my family slipped when I was a kid, and where a very correct and affluent German neighbour sank his Mercedes.

r13
NSW, 1587 posts
10 Mar 2022 8:45PM
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vandermoeler said..

Ramona said..
Probably not that many people on this forum old enough to remember the Tasman 22. They were certainly popular in NSW for JOG racing in the 1960's. The reverse sheer and bubble cabin probably did not appeal to many. I never owned or sailed one but I liked the concept. There was a rare trailer sailer version for sale on the South Coast awhile back and there was an extremely deep keel version for sale in Sydney recently. What do you own?



I actually own a tasman 22 currently and am that old i actually build some of these back when , including the one Kay cottee owned . it was a deep fin keel version .the trailer sailer version you saw may have been the one that Ron Miller from Peter Green shipchanderly in San Soicy built and fitted out himself , it had small carvings on some of the cupboard doors


Here is the trailer sailer version - it could have morphed into the Spider 22 round bilge trailer sailer Gunter did.


www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/1998-tasman-22/SSE-AD-7492784/?Cr=0

Chris 249
NSW, 3419 posts
10 Mar 2022 9:29PM
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That's very different from the Tasman 22 trailer sailer that was around Jervis or the ACT a while ago.

r13
NSW, 1587 posts
10 Mar 2022 9:35PM
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That one could have been a NZ Tasman 20?

www.nztya.nz/blog/623124

Ramona
NSW, 7646 posts
11 Mar 2022 8:44AM
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The Tasman 22 trailer sailer that was for sale in Callala Bay was the same hull that is in Tassygunny's photos but with a drop keel. Tassygunny's keel is much deeper than the stock keel too.
Not sure who designed the Tasman 22 but I can remember it was not a recognised designer. I think it was a couple of blokes that sailed out of Botany Bay. Chris may have to search through his Seacraft magazines for the answer.



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