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Few sessions in on the 850, v2 80, 10.5 ftl. 220 lbs, prone and ding, I'm a super mean foil reviewer. Kind of an a-hole to the designers but whatever.
super happy with the setup. Nice glide, I can dig all I want on the pump (unlike other HAs I've ridden), good enough stiffness(little wobbly coming from my cedrus aluminum custom setup but that's probably the stiffest foil on the planet), durability meets expectations(got knocked off foil hitting a bunch of crap in the water today and it seems fine)
Similar to the new progression 140- better durability, less refined shape for turns etc. Both have similar good Low end for small HAs but the progression has some voodoo that makes it turn special but I'm huge and can't afford to break foils so durability wins and I'm on the GF
i expected issues with the V2 mast but the extra stability from being more mast back isn't tragic. Riding it fairly true - 1.5 in back. I think having the stab sized down a size helps - I'm riding that whisper the 10.5.
the stiffness and strength of the fixed stab is a huge asset over a bolt on stab. It's better feeling without movement and having broken a few bolt on it's nice not to have to worry. Id love to tune it a hair but I feel like a lot of that can be accomplished by sizing up or down the stab.
I will say I much prefer the 850 to the 1075. The anhedral of the 1075 just didnt fly with me and the flatter 850 is nice. Also pumps and glides better and better low end. In fun pumping surf the 1000 is probably a better wing but I can pump the 850 much better than the 1000 so it's a better daily and being well practiced on a foil is important for waves of consequence so I put this as a winner there. Might go back to back with the 1000 some and see how I feel.
the factory fit is loose - borderline unrideable. I hate that foil tape fit and the wax is idiotic. It seems better for someone who has never had an actual tight fit maybe? I sand the flange to get the wing to seat deeper, 1mm at a time for minimal gap. No movement now perfect fit.
overall happy which is high praise from me
OMG 
I wish there was an RS750/RS700 in the exact same aspect and design for us lighter guys.
Yeah, that's my gripe about the RS range. It's all over the place, it's like 8 totally different wings instead of one wing scaled appropriately down and up!
The 1075 to 850ha comparison is like comparing red to blue. They are vastly different. At 190lbs, I can pump an 1150 and 850 equally well (which means they are easy) with the primary difference the energy required to get on foil. Both have very good glide. The 1075 is for winging or a heavy guy staying in the pocket. It requires much better technique than I have to pump it. I find the 850ha a bit flexy for winging, but don't notice sup or prone. Biggest tuning advice is trying different stabs. I wish they or (someone here!?) would share their perfect matchups. I've got a 14.5L tail for pumping and small fast (long period) waves, and a 12.5S for slower walled up waves. Switching between the two, the 12.5s is faster (less drag?) and makes both wings less lifty such that I run the mast slightly more forward and feel more neutral. The 14.5L is very front foot lifty such that I have to be careful of over lifting, but makes the glide very long with easy pumping.
I like the 10.5l best with the 850 for proning and winging. No going back to 12.5s
The 825 is a great ding foil for lighter riders. I use the 1075 cut down @105kg. Works very well in solid waves. I got rid of the 850 as it could not handle even waist high waves without huge lift. I found it slow compared to 1075.
Who is still reading this thread? It would be great if we could compile a list of the GF foils in order of low end lift. Which can be tweaked by wind wing size, board length / width, tail size / length, mast position and mast shim, but as a base line. Someone like RichJam could add their experience. I would put something like this
GT2200
M280
M200
GL240
GT1770
PNL185?
RS1300
RS1150
GL210
GT1400
NL220
RS1075
NL190
and so on
For me, I think the M280 is the one with more lift.
Also not sure about the GT1400, probably a little more lift than the RS1300.
I found the GL240 an absolute gem to dock start or beach start at low speeds. Also, unlike a lot of other dock wings I've seen, it actually turns pretty well. Good lift and glide at low speeds. I've also found that all of those wings have more lift and better glide on the V2 Mast. The extra lift I manage by just sliding it back an inch or two.
