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What is the weight of those set up ?
my 1600 alu setup is 4.3kg
Hey go foil, why don't you work on getting these new wings available for the general public first. They aren't even on your website yet.
Its posts like that that makes me want to avoid your company.
I am really interested in the new Takuma Lol foils, especially the 1600. I am currently riding the Armstrong 1200 with the 60 fuselage and love it. I want to get a bigger wing for smaller waves, pumping and some DW. Has anyone tried the Armstrong 1600 vs the Lol 1600 and can give me some feed back as to how they differ in performance? Thanks
Sorry everyone, not trying to hijack the thread just adding my 2 cents worth & found those new videos of the high aspect wings working well in the surf...New wings on the way so once available will be on website...
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I am really interested in the new Takuma Lol foils, especially the 1600. I am currently riding the Armstrong 1200 with the 60 fuselage and love it. I want to get a bigger wing for smaller waves, pumping and some DW. Has anyone tried the Armstrong 1600 vs the Lol 1600 and can give me some feed back as to how they differ in performance? Thanks
I have the Armstrong 1600 which is an awesome bit of kit. The flatter higher aspect Lol theoretically will pump better. Armstrong bringing out new wings soon apparently. Would put money on them being higher aspect flatter wings. No way I could go back to aluminium now.
Thanks Hilly! I am betting Armstrong HA will be an awesome wing, construction and performance wise! I am not looking into anything other than foils built in carbon. The Takuma Lol will be available in carbon as well, which is what I would be interested in. I know the 1600 Armstrong is good but wondering which one is best overall?
Select to expand quotelv2fly said..
I am really interested in the new Takuma Lol foils, especially the 1600. I am currently riding the Armstrong 1200 with the 60 fuselage and love it. I want to get a bigger wing for smaller waves, pumping and some DW. Has anyone tried the Armstrong 1600 vs the Lol 1600 and can give me some feed back as to how they differ in performance? Thanks
You should probably read the whole review over at surfermag if you're thinking of anything other than deep water foiling on the Takuma..
From sozzle who's had it long enough to see the pros and cons..
"in hindsight i don't know if i'd buy it again as it has bummed me out a fair bit with the basic cheapness of certain parts of it plus the issue of its major rock allergy is a negative point for me personally with the breaks i foil in having rocks in the mix on many occasions."
I will definitely be looking into the surfer mag review. Did not come up when I did a search for review on the Lol. Thanks
Select to expand quotelv2fly said..
I will definitely be looking into the surfer mag review. Did not come up when I did a search for review on the Lol. Thanks
It's in the "best foil for you" thread.
Select to expand quotelv2fly said..
Thanks Hilly! I am betting Armstrong HA will be an awesome wing, construction and performance wise! I am not looking into anything other than foils built in carbon. The Takuma Lol will be available in carbon as well, which is what I would be interested in. I know the 1600 Armstrong is good but wondering which one is best overall?
At 105kg just ordered the 2400 wing for pumping. It is a bit flatter by the looks. They claim it turns too. Will see.
Select to expand quoteClamsmasha said..lv2fly said..
I will definitely be looking into the surfer mag review. Did not come up when I did a search for review on the Lol. Thanks
It's in the "best foil for you" thread.
Thanks ! Found it. Great review! Looks like the Lol carbon set up is gonna be around $2000 US. Which would be close to $ Armstrong. Definitely don't want to spend that much money and be disappointed in the building quality even if the performance is better. Looks like I am gonna wait till Armstrong comes up with new wings, then decide.
Select to expand quotehilly said..lv2fly said..
Thanks Hilly! I am betting Armstrong HA will be an awesome wing, construction and performance wise! I am not looking into anything other than foils built in carbon. The Takuma Lol will be available in carbon as well, which is what I would be interested in. I know the 1600 Armstrong is good but wondering which one is best overall?
At 105kg just ordered the 2400 wing for pumping. It is a bit flatter by the looks. They claim it turns too. Will see.
Way too big for me! But let us know how it goes!??
Select to expand quotelv2fly said..hilly said..lv2fly said..
Thanks Hilly! I am betting Armstrong HA will be an awesome wing, construction and performance wise! I am not looking into anything other than foils built in carbon. The Takuma Lol will be available in carbon as well, which is what I would be interested in. I know the 1600 Armstrong is good but wondering which one is best overall?
At 105kg just ordered the 2400 wing for pumping. It is a bit flatter by the looks. They claim it turns too. Will see.
Way too big for me! But let us know how it goes!??
Are you WA? happy for you to have a paddle.
Select to expand quoteClamsmasha said..
It's in the "best foil for you" thread.
I get thi when go to the forum:
Error 403 Forbidden
Guru Meditation:XID: 20974417
Varnish cache server
Select to expand quoteCamarillo said..Clamsmasha said..
It's in the "best foil for you" thread.
I get thi when go to the forum:
Error 403 Forbidden
Guru Meditation:XID: 20974417
Varnish cache server
if you are in europe you need to use a VPN due to the stupid internet regulations that have been put in place, proton vpn is free and easy, just set to usa.
Select to expand quoteCamarillo said..
Guru Meditation:XID: 20974417
Varnish cache server
This is a symptom of the site being (temporarily) down, no need to use a VPN (I dont').
Basically you access seabreeze via a front-end (varnish) which tells you it cannot contact the backend (forum).
www.section.io/blog/varnish-cache-503-error-guru-meditation/
Select to expand quotecolas said..Camarillo said..
Guru Meditation:XID: 20974417
Varnish cache server
This is a symptom of the site being (temporarily) down, no need to use a VPN (I dont').
Basically you access seabreeze via a front-end (varnish) which tells you it cannot contact the backend (forum).
www.section.io/blog/varnish-cache-503-error-guru-meditation/
Same thing, I used to go on the surfermag forum when I was in California, but now from France I can't.
Select to expand quotefrenchfoiler said..colas said..Camarillo said..
Guru Meditation:XID: 20974417
Varnish cache server
This is a symptom of the site being (temporarily) down, no need to use a VPN (I dont').
Basically you access seabreeze via a front-end (varnish) which tells you it cannot contact the backend (forum).
www.section.io/blog/varnish-cache-503-error-guru-meditation/
Same thing, I used to go on the surfermag forum when I was in California, but now from France I can't.
Due to new data regulations you cannot visit the surfermag forum from Europe, they have a post on the surfermagforum about this, use the free proton VPN to get around this Greg, works on mobiles also, just set to USA.
I never use the internet, it has bewbs on it.
They are doing it for your own protection.
Here's Sozzle's review:
"working mans review of the takuma-LOL 1600.
i've had probably 60-70 hours plus of sessions on the takuma-LOL 1600 alu/carbon foil now, from knee high burgers to a foot overhead and hectic.
this was all prone foiling on a 4'8"
the good,
it looks ****ing amazing for a start, the white paintwork has a band of gloss and then matt white along with the exposed carbon, real foil porn, the thin front edge and the curves all over the foil are insane to look at and fondle.
it rides REALLY well,
really stable gentle lift at low speeds, makes takeoffs easier on bigger waves, never wants to buck you off or lurch up like my gong could do, you go nose down and it stays nose down, no funny business.
top end speed is ****ing crazy for a wing of the size, i've had some scarily fast speed runs in some pretty average little waves, it can get a bit frisky on bigger waves but it comes with tail shims to reign it in on bigger stuff, personally the shims felt like dragging seaweed so i just move the mast back a hair in bigger waves and buckle up.
it turns really nicely, full rail carves feel epic, you can really lean into it and it just drives through the turn without loading up a ton of extra lift, so good, i've had the ends of the wings out through the turns regularly and it doesn't let go at all.
it can get to be a handful for turns over chest high for me at my lightweight (147lbs).
pumps really well in my limited experience, couldn't do 2 for 1's before but can do em every session now, doesn't need to be worked too heavily to pump back out, super stoked with that.
the rest,
Firstly, the bag it comes in is sh?t, single lined, compared to a gong bag which you'd be happy to throw on a plane for a trip, the takuma-lol one is a single layer of average feeling canvas, small point maybe but ****ing hell boys, pretty naff for the price point.
no covers for the wings once it's put together, with the shape of the front wing it'd really benefit from some protection on the way to the beach.
the mast is kind of flexy, basic aluminium box section, pretty standard stuff, although it is factory sealed at both ends with some metallic mesh type tape,
baseplate is the same generic aluminium as many other brands but has open ended slots on the screw holes for quick removal,
the baseplate and fuselage ends of the mast needed shimming with packing tape the same as all the other brands in this construction style,
it came with the wrong length bolts to mount to the board, needed 3-4 mm ground off the length to fit properly.
my mast also came with a few dinks in it on the edges which was pretty sloppy on takuma's part.
the backs of the wings are insanely sharp, kick the rear stab and you'll regret it, deffo a case for some light 1200 grit adjustment.
Durability,
if you're foiling reefs and snagging the bottom sitting in the lineups, or you're slinging it in the back of the van/truck with other gear unprotected you're going to chew this thing up pretty quickly, the hot coat chips quite easily on the leading edge of the front wing, not great.
the white paint is going to look like crap if you're reef rashing it, looks badass out of the box but maybe not super practical especially on the ends of the wing, i understand there may be a reason for the gloss paint etc but the lips where they pulled the masking tape on the gloss stripe were pretty high, very noticeable.
i have had a front wingtip split and delaminate and suck in a ton of water after hitting the reef paddling out on my second session so toughness is definitely not a strong point, still leaking after the repair as it's proving hard to get it totally dryed out first
i'm baking it in the back of the van to get it dry so will get it water tight over the weekend.
but, if you're a sand bottomed, deep water foiler and are super careful with it you should have no problems."
Part 2:
"in all reality it is too big a wing for my weight in a lot of stuff unless it's stomach high or under, i am having a blast riding it for sure though and it does ride smaller than say the gong large that i had before, that was a slow lumbering turner for me whereas this takuma lol is full jam on a nice open face,
our waves are a lot weaker than most places though so that maybe makes it more manageable for me in a broader range than somewhere with some juice.
it was kind of an impulse purchase after clammy sent me some clips of it being ridden on insta, looked like the kind of carving i could appreciate,
i was looking at unifoil or maybe neil pryde or axis but just by fluke ended up with this one really, the neil Pryde medium wing does look really good, although, after listening to the KDmaui podcast i'm wondering if i ****ed it by not going unifoil,
axis surely has the most solid setup of the ones i was looking at but are super hard to get hold of here.
in hindsight i don't know if i'd buy it again as it has bummed me out a fair bit with the basic cheapness of certain parts of it plus the issue of its major rock allergy is a negative point for me personally with the breaks i foil in having rocks in the mix on many occasions.
i'm interested to see how 'foil the world' likes the 1300 wing takuma lol just sent him, that does look like a real weapon of a wing for sure, they are doing a full carbon mast version too i believe so that should eliminate the average mast setup, whether it's worth the extra money? "
It would interesting to see the diff between allu and carbon mast.
I tried MFC and Lift and found those too flexy.
I like the Axis allu mast and I liked also the Gofoil (best carbon mast ever ??? ).
Select to expand quotefrenchfoiler said..
It would interesting to see the diff between allu and carbon mast.
I tried MFC and Lift and found those too flexy.
I like the Axis allu mast and I liked also the Gofoil (best carbon mast ever ??? ).
I started to find the 24" GF mast a bit flexible for the IWA and 200 but the 29.5" is rock solid
Select to expand quotefrenchfoiler said..
It would interesting to see the diff between allu and carbon mast.
I tried MFC and Lift and found those too flexy.
I like the Axis allu mast and I liked also the Gofoil (best carbon mast ever ??? ).
After reading the review : not for me...
For me a mast has to be as stiff as possible , 95 % of my tow is very choppy...
NP is very stiff but I hate allu, I have a stuck bolt, can't remove the plate from the mast anymore...
And NP doesn't have an XL foil ,might take half a year
A carbon plate/mast is coming, but still an allu fuselage....
The 29,5 Gofoil mast is ok for Iwa and M200 but starts to wobble with the M280
I would love to get the Axis S102 but it is allu, come on Axis please come with a carbon plate /mast/fuselage...
Select to expand quoteCamarillo said..frenchfoiler said..
It would interesting to see the diff between allu and carbon mast.
I tried MFC and Lift and found those too flexy.
I like the Axis allu mast and I liked also the Gofoil (best carbon mast ever ??? ).
After reading the review : not for me...
For me a mast has to be as stiff as possible , 95 % of my tow is very choppy...
NP is very stiff but I hate allu, I have a stuck bolt, can't remove the plate from the mast anymore...
And NP doesn't have an XL foil ,might take half a year
A carbon plate/mast is coming, but still an allu fuselage....
The 29,5 Gofoil mast is ok for Iwa and M200 but starts to wobble with the M280
I would love to get the Axis S102 but it is allu, come on Axis please come with a carbon plate /mast/fuselage...
Come on Axis please come with a carbon plate /mast/fuselage...??????
Select to expand quotetoppleover said..Camarillo said..frenchfoiler said..
It would interesting to see the diff between allu and carbon mast.
I tried MFC and Lift and found those too flexy.
I like the Axis allu mast and I liked also the Gofoil (best carbon mast ever ??? ).
After reading the review : not for me...
For me a mast has to be as stiff as possible , 95 % of my tow is very choppy...
NP is very stiff but I hate allu, I have a stuck bolt, can't remove the plate from the mast anymore...
And NP doesn't have an XL foil ,might take half a year
A carbon plate/mast is coming, but still an allu fuselage....
The 29,5 Gofoil mast is ok for Iwa and M200 but starts to wobble with the M280
I would love to get the Axis S102 but it is allu, come on Axis please come with a carbon plate /mast/fuselage...
Come on Axis please come with a carbon plate /mast/fuselage...??????
Yes it would be nice, but I found that if you have a super light weight wing the all set up is not heavy. For corosion tefgel works really good.
But yes carbone make things easier and it feels also safer.
The lol Takuma carbone is one piece like Gofoil so it should be pretty good (except for travelling).
Select to expand quoteCamarillo said..frenchfoiler said..
It would interesting to see the diff between allu and carbon mast.
I tried MFC and Lift and found those too flexy.
I like the Axis allu mast and I liked also the Gofoil (best carbon mast ever ??? ).
After reading the review : not for me...
For me a mast has to be as stiff as possible , 95 % of my tow is very choppy...
NP is very stiff but I hate allu, I have a stuck bolt, can't remove the plate from the mast anymore...
And NP doesn't have an XL foil ,might take half a year
A carbon plate/mast is coming, but still an allu fuselage....
The 29,5 Gofoil mast is ok for Iwa and M200 but starts to wobble with the M280
I would love to get the Axis S102 but it is allu, come on Axis please come with a carbon plate /mast/fuselage...
If you are looking for an all carbon set up wing that size, maybe the Ke Nalu 970 would work?
Foiltheworld puts it in his top 4
www.instagram.com/p/B0wnJtVHnQW/?igshid=d1ww45nednm5
Select to expand quotehilly said..lv2fly said..hilly said..lv2fly said..
Thanks Hilly! I am betting Armstrong HA will be an awesome wing, construction and performance wise! I am not looking into anything other than foils built in carbon. The Takuma Lol will be available in carbon as well, which is what I would be interested in. I know the 1600 Armstrong is good but wondering which one is best overall?
At 105kg just ordered the 2400 wing for pumping. It is a bit flatter by the looks. They claim it turns too. Will see.
Way too big for me! But let us know how it goes!??
Are you WA? happy for you to have a paddle.
Thanks for the offer!! I am in Hawaii!
