Does anybody know what size Fanatic Pro Wave would suit me? I'm 95 kg and currently surf a 9'6" All wave sort of still learning but thinking about the future. I was thinking a 9'3" Pro wave cos it has a smaller volume and more advanced shape or I could just get a smaller All wave maybe a 8' 6"?.
Where abouts are you riding ? How good are the waves ? How good a surfer are you?.. We have quite a few big guys ripping around on 9'2 & 8"10 allwaves & having a great time.. I am 85kg & use the 8'10 prowave on the clean wave days, use the 8'6 & 8'10 when choppy & sloppy ..
Surf in Dunedin. Intermediate level and was thinking of a smaller board and thought I might grow into the Pro Wave. It would mean I have the all wave and pro wave and choose depending on wave conditions. I suppose I should demo but that will be impossible in Dunedin. I must admit I like the look of the JP surf wide body 8"8 by 136 lts but I has always trusted the construction on my Fanatic boards as they are built to last I think.
Didn't know you could get the JP wide body 8'8" in NZ. Where? Reviews great, I'm 82kegs, been standing up since January, on a 10'3", looking to move down also. Cheers
I dont know where you can get the JP's either but they look nice. The fanatics will be built to last, my Allwave is very strong.
Ah well thanks, yep lotsa Fanatics around, people happy with them. Checl out the Exocet 8'11" Fishes also, well priced.
The Exocet fishes are made with the best materials and labour at the Cobra factory in Thailand which make the other premium SUP brands, like Fanatic, Starboard, Naish etc.
I guess they are priced same as other such board in NZ. I am still thinking the Fanatic Pro Wave is a safe bet.
Hey Brusier
I was also surfing a 9'6 Allwave and was ready to down size... wanted to try something new.
I paddled flat-water and surfed the Exocet fish...
Surf was ust a 15 min. demo in choppy 3' waves...I caught a number of waves but it was not a fair test of the board.
A few guys around me are surfing them daily and doing well.
I was hesitant about the rocker on the board and the price of the Carbon
I was very excited about the 8'8 JP Wide Body Pro... but had heard of limits be cause of it being Quad only... plus the price
I borrowed a friends 8'10 Allwave and was thrilled with it in all kinds of waves.
I bought my 3rd Allwave... the NEW 8'10 with the LEDGE handle... waaaa frickin' hooo.
It is NOT the same board as the 9'6.... much snappier... but has the same drive, easy off the top (my 9'6 was too slow off the top)
down the line rail to rail pumping is a breeze and you can totally bury the rail on a lay down bottom turn.
I gotta say... I am relieved to know my new board is as tough as an Allwave... cuz it is
I LOVE the new handle... best in the busness... you can fit a 7mil mitt in there with room to spare
I gotta add.... the Allwave will do something most "shorter" boards will NOT do...
I swear, with God as my witness... I got to "Hang 10" on my 8'10 the other day... not once... but twice.
For more than a moment... it felt controlled and... "Right"
The 1st time I was so psyched I rode it into the water at the end.
The 2nd time I was able to walk it back before close out.
I think being much shorter and thinner than my 9'6 allowed the fins to stay engaged.
I was able to stay perched, first "5" then "10"... for 30 yards while maneuvering the board from the tip.
I had just applied Re-Rek to the nose... Allwaves are good noseriders.... in my book... a great feature
Cheers for this SupTheCreek. When i got my Allwave 9'6" I was about 105+kg and now down to 95kg , I must admit I hadn't really considered a smaller Allwave but after reading your post and seeing picture I'm think that looks like it would work for me. It looks like you are a heaps better surfer than me ( I come from a Windsurfing background and have only been sup surfing for a couple of years) and I had to google hang 10 cos I didn't know what it was :-).
I wonder if I could handle a 8"6' AllWave? 130 litres and 30 wide? Problem is demo in Dunedin is impossible.
I gotta add.... the Allwave will do something most "shorter" boards will NOT do...
I swear, with God as my witness... I got to "Hang 10" on my 8'10 the other day... not once... but twice.
For more than a moment... it felt controlled and... "Right"
The 1st time I was so psyched I rode it into the water at the end.
The 2nd time I was able to walk it back before close out.
I think being much shorter and thinner than my 9'6 allowed the fins to stay engaged.
I was able to stay perched, first "5" then "10"... for 30 yards while maneuvering the board from the tip.
I had just applied Re-Rek to the nose... Allwaves are good noseriders.... in my book... a great feature
Hey Rick, be careful, I could be getting a man crush!!!. You and your board are looking terrific!!!
Interesting to read in other thread "Allwave progression" about the JP surf and the Surf Wide Body 8'8"x32" . I think a JP would be just what I am after , I just need to find a dealer in NZ. The whole demo thing is very frustrating as its just impossible where I live. Oh well I have a few months to get organised over winter anyway so rush.
I think the smaller volume and size would be so mush easier to handle , not just when surfing but in the wash and just paddling out thru the white water. I have broken a leash and lost my board twice and I think its is due to the size of the board on the end of the leash and my 95KG body in the water on the other side of the wave crest!
I have an Allwave 9ft 6 - great board for surfing. I do have a bigger SUP which actually has much more thinnned out rails....it just feels closer to a surfboard to me so my next one will be a SUP with less volume in the tail (and overall.)
I found out the cost of JP boards in NZ! Wow, they cost a lot cf to similar boards by other premium brands. So it's not an option for me when I could get a carbon pro wave for the same price.
I recently put hole my board and had it repaired but I reckon the resale if virtually gone if you hole your board. So buying an expensive board just seems like a waste of money.
So back to the drawing board!
Yep, all good
I'm looking at the all wave 9,2 I was going for the 9,6 but too much float 90kg even the 9,2 is a floaty beast
Best board I ever used was a psh wide ripper
Feel free to call over to Brighton always a cold one in the fridge
IMHO the pro wave at our weight is a lot of hard work, awesome board to surf but a bag of sore legs between sets
130 liters not a lot of guts there , for myself I'm not going under 150 liters and 30 wide
Can I get a idea of comparison from my old psh wide ripper and maybe my next purchase the fanatic all wave 9,2
I was out at Aramoana Spit this morning and had a great surf. Clean and 3-4 foot. The Allwave handled the conditions well and I also jumped on my mates SB 9'8" x 29 and caught a wave at the end. Just trying to get some idea re next board. The SB was floated me ok at 130 litres but a lot tippier. I think my next board will be one of these
Exocet Fish 8'11" X 32"
Volume 145 litres
Length 276 cm / 8'11"
Width 81.2 cm / 32"
AST Weight 9.2 kg (+/-6%)
Center Fin 12.5 cm US box
Side Fin?2 x FCS 9 cm
oh my god, what a amazing price, hmmm i think i might just have to jump on the 8,11 x 32 seems stable but rails are quite turned down
seems good and stable i guess, but sharp turned down rails dont realy yell out stability, yes good and floaty board stable hmmm
seems good and stable i guess, but sharp turned down rails dont realy yell out stability, yes good and floaty board stable hmmm
at 32 wide its gotta be stable? I don't understand why the turned down rails decrease the stability?
Cheers Bruce
The Exocet Fish 8'11 x 32 145 ltrs is a pretty interesting board
I flat-water paddled one for a hour.
Then I had a short session in choppy small waves
I weighed 99 kg + Full 4/3 wetsuit.
It floated me fine and was comfortable on flat-water
In the crap waves I tried it, it was a challenge. It has a narrow nose and a drawn in tail, so it is tippier than the 32" width would suggest.
Several guys surf them in my area and do well on them. They are all 15 kg lighter than me.
One guy has the AST model Exocet... nice looking board and about $700 cheaper. Heavier than the super light carbon model.... but ok.
My 8'10 Allwave is much more stable in all conditions even though it is only 31" wide. Same liters on both boards.
Here are some pictures of the Exocet, to show float with me on it and rocker (it has a lot of rocker)
what i was meaning was if the rails are turned down which they are, and the tail being narrow this will explain why its more tippy vs the allwave
if the board was 9,1 i think it would be magic , im still looking at getting on but then im 88kg dry
turned down rails and a roll in the deck, equals a little unstable , if you look at the allwave it has a fairly flat deck and fat rails not tapered off if you like.
also add to that, the allwaves have a full nose equals more stability, those who remember the old 9x30 that starboard done it was a great short board bit turned like a dog, stable and all the good bits
nowdays we have boards like it but pulled in nose and tails, this takes out the stability part but add a great surfing dimention to it
bruiser, i think at out weight it will be fine, a little tippy at first but once you find the sweet spot you will not look back. again price wise hey lets give it a crack
AND FARK ME ITS A SEXY BEAST
BRUISER if you are undecided, my opinion is this either the exocet or the 8,11 all wave
allwave = same type of board, more stable in chop not as good a surfer
exocet, better surfer by a long shot, a bit more unstable in chop
Both have the same float for big guys
If at your weight the stability on the exocet was fine no problems then i would say its the best choice
im sure allwave are going at a better price
Here you can compare the stability of them both just buy looking at the nose and tail
you can also see the HUGE difference in surfability when looking at the same thing, i.e pulled in nose