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First look at the new 2016 JAV!

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Created by JB > 9 months ago, 19 May 2015
SJKJ
NSW, 83 posts
26 Jul 2015 10:33AM
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Here are a few more shots. Casper Steinfath won the distance race at the Italia Surf Expo on the new Jav, while Leoanard Niko came third on the new SB. To complete the podium, Zane Schweitzer came second on the current year's SB. The fifth shot has Zane's current SB but in the background you can see Leonard's latest SB.





Area10
1508 posts
26 Jul 2015 11:50AM
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Thanks very much for the pics. There are some bold designs for 2016. Is the tail on the Jav as wide as it looks in the pic, or is it just the angle? Naish are certainly going with a planing nose design here: are they also producing a flat water-specific board?

SJKJ
NSW, 83 posts
26 Jul 2015 2:10PM
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Area10 said..
Thanks very much for the pics. There are some bold designs for 2016. Is the tail on the Jav as wide as it looks in the pic, or is it just the angle? Naish are certainly going with a planing nose design here: are they also producing a flat water-specific board?



Good questions Area10. Certainly a radical change to the nose. Rumour has it that there will be a downwind specific board, but unsure about flatwater specific. Full model release first week in August I believe, so we'll get all the low down then, unless someone close to the action wants to provide more colour beforehand.

DavidJohn
VIC, 17434 posts
26 Jul 2015 4:18PM
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Area10 said..
Thanks very much for the pics. There are some bold designs for 2016. Is the tail on the Jav as wide as it looks in the pic, or is it just the angle? Naish are certainly going with a planing nose design here: are they also producing a flat water-specific board?


Yes..

SurfNiels
182 posts
26 Jul 2015 3:00PM
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Here is a little more in this video

Area10
1508 posts
26 Jul 2015 3:03PM
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Flat rocker and wide tail on a DW board? Will be fascinating to see how you avoid pearling. This maybe a new solution for DW design I think: usually as the rocker gets flatter the volume in the tail is reduced so it's easier to step back and lift the nose. But maybe there is more rocker than it looks, or maybe the nose does something funky to avoid pearling, hence the hard rails up front. I have no idea, but these pictures have certainly piqued my interest.

Great idea for Naish to produce (fairly) clearly demarked flatwater and ocean boards, like they did before the Jav/Glide distinction became more about cost than use. The key Naish distance boards (i.e. midweight, mid-price 14s) tend to sell out fast in Europe - or never make it here at all - so I'd better start hassling the distributors/retailers for an early demo.

Bnesupgirl
QLD, 24 posts
26 Jul 2015 7:25PM
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Love it, Naish always like to keep you guessing right up until they release the range.
Have they completely redesigned the Jav again for 2016 or is that the brand new design for the "downwind" Jav?
Was it a distance ocean race? Maybe the new "downwind" Jav might have been a better choice for the conditions???

Area10
1508 posts
26 Jul 2015 6:32PM
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Bnesupgirl said...
Love it, Naish always like to keep you guessing right up until they release the range.
Have they completely redesigned the Jav again for 2016 or is that the brand new design for the "downwind" Jav?
Was it a distance ocean race? Maybe the new "downwind" Jav might have been a better choice for the conditions???

If Caspar's board is indeed the production shape for 2016 then that will be the downwind board, I should think. It certainly isn't a flat water board. It looks like it builds on the basic concept of the 2015 Jav, but they have substantially altered the nose, probably mainly to increase early planing. I presume the wide tail is to increase stability and tracking and allow you to go narrower than you otherwise would, so getting the right board for your weight might be important (ie. so you can sink the tail). But I'm no expert so this is just wild speculation - all part of the annual pre-release fun. I love this time of year, when we start to get to see the designers' various visions of where the sport is going, and how they see our needs and abilities (and wallets) changing.

Area10
1508 posts
26 Jul 2015 6:38PM
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Bnesupgirl said...
Check out Michi Schweiger's latest instagram post

www.instagram.com/p/5lSg49s6nO/

#Naishjavelinmaliko might give it away. Can't think of a better name for a downwind board than a Maliko :-) Different paint job to the one Casper is riding but same board.


The only problem is that the Maliko name has been used twice before. It was first used by Bill Foote for his 14ft DW boards. Then Jimmy Lewis used it for the early versions of what is now called the M14. The M in M14 stands for Maliko. When Jimmy first produced the M14 it had "Maliko" written on it. I owned one of them. But Bill Foote, who is a friend of Jimmy's, complained that he had stolen the name of his existing boards, so Jimmy changed it to M14 out of respect. So maybe it's not that creative of Naish to use that name...

Bnesupgirl
QLD, 24 posts
26 Jul 2015 8:47PM
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Interesting! Thanks for the info Area10. Maybe why it's tagged a Javelin Maliko instead of a Naish Maliko?? Name is confirmed on the Naish website after the Maui to Molokai race

www.naishsurfing.com/team-naish-finishes-top-three-14-foot-javelins-2015-maui-molokai-race/

Also a shot of Kody on one from FB





Trust me, it is one quick board

Area10
1508 posts
26 Jul 2015 9:23PM
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Trust me, it is one quick board


Great - you have actually paddled one, then?

Jeroensurf
873 posts
26 Jul 2015 11:29PM
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A bit weird to claim the name of one of world best DW runs and breeding ground and expect that no one else uses that name...
But the Naish looks stunning.

AUS4
NSW, 1251 posts
27 Jul 2015 6:50PM
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DavidJohn said..

Area10 said..
Thanks very much for the pics. There are some bold designs for 2016. Is the tail on the Jav as wide as it looks in the pic, or is it just the angle? Naish are certainly going with a planing nose design here: are they also producing a flat water-specific board?



Yes..


NO...

Area10
1508 posts
27 Jul 2015 11:15PM
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AUS4 said...
DavidJohn said..

Area10 said..
Thanks very much for the pics. There are some bold designs for 2016. Is the tail on the Jav as wide as it looks in the pic, or is it just the angle? Naish are certainly going with a planing nose design here: are they also producing a flat water-specific board?



Yes..


NO...


Ok, well now I'm confused. Are Naish producing different lines of flat water and ocean/DW boards for 2016 or not?

AUS4
NSW, 1251 posts
28 Jul 2015 8:01AM
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No flatwater board. 2 ocean boards Javelin Glide and Javelin Maliko.

TJR
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28 Jul 2015 6:06AM
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No flatwater board.




Thats not what I hear. I have had good information there is a flatwater specific board which would make sense as a lot of Europes races are on flat water

Helmy
VIC, 796 posts
28 Jul 2015 9:58AM
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I reckon if you went back over the posts from 12 months ago you'd find the exact same postings regarding the Naish 2015 range.

Area10
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28 Jul 2015 8:31AM
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No flatwater board. 2 ocean boards Javelin Glide and Javelin Maliko.

Well, it would be a bit odd to mix the Glide and Javelin names as in "Javelin Glide". The Javelin name was introduced principally to indicate the more expensive and specialised distance boards in the range, and both Glide and Javelin names have very good market recognition, so I'd be surprised if they conflated them for 2016. But I guess we will find out soon enough... I certainly hope that they have simplified the range a bit in terms of intended purpose and names because the last couple of years have got a bit confusing beyond the fact that Javs are generally more expensive than Glides.

WINDSURFnSNOW
NSW, 1612 posts
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28 Jul 2015 7:12PM
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There is without a doubt a flatwater board called the Javelin and an ocean board called a Javelin Maliko.
The Maliko version will make a great allrounder also ie./ fast enough in the flats to keep most happy.

DavidJohn
VIC, 17434 posts
28 Jul 2015 7:57PM
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I've heard that we might even see a recessed deck all the way to the tail on the new flat water specific board.. I'll believe that when I see it.. Only a few days to go now before we get all the info and pics.. Can't wait..

BrisKites
QLD, 1286 posts
28 Jul 2015 9:37PM
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DavidJohn said..
I've heard that we might even see a recessed deck all the way to the tail on the new flat water specific board.. I'll believe that when I see it.. Only a few days to go now before we get all the info and pics.. Can't wait..


Possibly you are losing your touch DavidJohn! You were once so good at sniffing out this info.Trust me if you look hard enough the info is all out there on the interweb.Either way if you drop into your local Naish SUP dealer in the next couple of weeks all might be revealed. Before you ask though, no I won't post pics or specs online

Wood Duck
157 posts
29 Jul 2015 7:33AM
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All has been revealed in this thread.

Area10
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29 Jul 2015 8:09AM
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WINDSURFnSNOW said...
There is without a doubt a flatwater board called the Javelin and an ocean board called a Javelin Maliko.
The Maliko version will make a great allrounder also ie./ fast enough in the flats to keep most happy.


Sounds great. What about construction: will normal people be able to afford them, or only those whose disposable income is in the top 1% of the population? I have never met anyone in the UK who was willing to pay what the 2015 LE Jav cost - for ANY 14ft production board. Maybe they sold well in Dubai.

SurfNiels
182 posts
29 Jul 2015 5:42PM
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Here is a video of the Javelin Maliko- in french. I dont understand a thing but it looks nice
www.supmag.fr/news-matos-2016-maliko-nouvelle-planche-race-chez-naish

Area10
1508 posts
29 Jul 2015 6:20PM
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Very nice! I want one already.

14x26 and 14x24"? You'll need to have some serious skills to use a 24" wide flat-rockered board in the ocean in anything except downbreezing conditions. But it will be nice for the small but growing band of inland downwinding folk to have something for them.

And with the 14x24 we should be able to continue the age-old tradition of "aspirational purchasing" with Javs: buying a narrow Jav when feeling optimistic about one's skills, only for it to sit in the garage after we've struggled to stay on it few times, forever a monument to the gap between fantasy and reality.

I just hope the price is sensible.

kikaha
QLD, 72 posts
29 Jul 2015 8:53PM
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Javelin Maliko 14x 24 and 14x26 honeycomb construction. Sounds interesting.

Lands it between the Javelin and the LE weight wise but stronger construcion than an LE.

magentawave
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1 Aug 2015 2:26AM
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JBFletch said..

Jezmond said..
JB
I love this new naish, should sell heaps. The Penetrator. 50 stokes per side hey?
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Looks like they stole some ideas from Fish and his dick board.



Proof that a good surfer can ride anything.

Bnesupgirl
QLD, 24 posts
1 Aug 2015 9:03PM
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Ain't they beautiful!
Straight from Karla Gilbert's Instagram page
"My 2016 #sup quiver is complete:) Brand new to the shores of Australia the Naish 12'6 x 24 Javelin LE, 14' x 24 Javelin Maliko downwind board and 14' x 24 Jav Now to try and keep my feet firmly planted so they don't take off without me!"

DavidJohn
VIC, 17434 posts
1 Aug 2015 9:17PM
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Wow..

Time to write a dear Santa letter..

charlieuk
355 posts
1 Aug 2015 8:02PM
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what happened to the you don't need to go narrower than 26" in 2015 speech naish did? just a ploy to get people to feel like they have to change the board again in 2016 and sell more boards?



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