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Created by andyc93 > 9 months ago, 7 Jan 2014
JeanG
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21 Jan 2014 10:29AM
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laceys lane said..

colas said..

laceys lane said..a 8'6 that was narrow ish, very pulled and thin in tail and nose


Arg, seems hell to me :-)
But 8'6" is quite long, why do you call it a "short SUP"?



three years ago it was short. and i didn't want a wide nosed tailed dish pan


i'm not convinced going really short and wide leads to carving surfing.


Short & narrow?

stehar
NSW, 590 posts
21 Jan 2014 5:06PM
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Shorter wider SUP boards are for less powerfull mellow waves - sort of thing to teach your little kids on. As they progress into bigger more powerfull and hollower waves they will need a board that carves and can use the shorter wider one for crappy surf - probably better off on a boogie board!

Steve

colas
5066 posts
23 Jan 2014 6:00AM
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lacey, ah yes, forgot that 3 years ago 8'6" was not as long as it seems today.

stehar, funny, I have been reading that for years "yeah, SUP shorter than N' cannot turn properly". First N was 12', then 11' then 10' ...

Kami
1566 posts
23 Jan 2014 10:27AM
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stehar said..

Shorter wider SUP boards are for less powerfull mellow waves - sort of thing to teach your little kids on. As they progress into bigger more powerfull and hollower waves they will need a board that carves and can use the shorter wider one for crappy surf - probably better off on a boogie board!

Steve


Ok steve , you are right to say " Shorter wider SUP boards are for less powerfull mellow waves" BUT you probably forget to really try short SUP because these board are able magnified crappy waves in something playful. In fact, what's very important to surf good waves or the fun you get when you surf a wave whatever is size or quality?
Then, anyway we are all of us just old kid, at least me on my 59
About bodyboard , you right too , because I stick a body board in the tail of my ShortSUP. This make working this wide tail like my best short board I ever had.
D'ont believe me, this is all right because that 's make less people to come in the mellow/crappy waves's window.

Kami
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28 Jan 2014 7:44PM
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laceys lane said..

i looked at that topic. i love the idea of it, but construction looks a bit tricky ad maybe costly if you don't build them yourself. the green board seems to have quite a thick rail. any reason for that


Hi Lacey, here i explain the reason of the boxy rail :
When i shape this green board which is still the second prototype, i start shaping from the tail to integrate the bodyboard's rail and thickness of the bodyboard on a 6'4" round tail blank.
I leave these boxy rails as well, because bottom round rails won't catch choppy water( or at its less) while stand up paddling. Then this board is not made for backside barreling, made for mellow average wave.
With adjonction of the body board flex tail, even in slight choppy unless you get some speed, the feeling of carving is like snowboarding in the powder , this is at least like smooth shocker
As well the rebound of the flex is a bonus in bottom turn or round house cut back.
About construction cost, there is so many sponges to be recycling on this planet or anyway it's not easy to run after wearing flippers as a duck
Once you get the bodyboard,stick with chew epoxy the crescent tail on the laminated board then shape and laminate the crescent tail bottom ; this is just one more building step to do.
I laminate as usual like my son's shortboard, just add 2 carbon patches of 200gram each

stehar
NSW, 590 posts
28 Jan 2014 11:02PM
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I suppose that to maximise surf time, a two board quiver or three even, to take into account what is on offer on any day might be the way to go - cannot really justify it though - two extra boards = another o/seas hol

regards Steve

Kami
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30 Jan 2014 7:50PM
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stehar said..

I suppose that to maximise surf time, a two board quiver or three even, to take into account what is on offer on any day might be the way to go - cannot really justify it though - two extra boards = another o/seas hol

regards Steve



Swell Forecast allows me to choose only one board from my quiver then carry it at the spot .
So I get the right board for the session i will have.
Plus, even the shortest of my boards get enough rail length to hold bit more power that i would think before entering the session.
To come back to topic, with a minimum flotation i can stand for the given day, i like the feeling when the board lifting up under my feet during the paddle stroke of taking off, then i get the pressure to carve the bottom turn as strong as i can

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
1 Feb 2014 8:27PM
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you guys need to get on modern 5'10 s and 5'8 s boards- you can do so much more then you can on 6'6 and 7' bath tubs

and ditch the paddle while your at it

Kami
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1 Feb 2014 7:26PM
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laceys lane said..

you guys need to get on modern 5'10 s and 5'8 s boards- you can do so much more then you can on 6'6 and 7' bath tubs

and ditch the paddle while your at it


Volume to weight?
this is the question of this topic...to prove this is makable to SUP with a minimum, i picture side to side my old favorite 6' Errol Hickman from ZA fish surfboard with one of my 6'9"SUP flextail

colas
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2 Feb 2014 7:55PM
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laceys lane said..

you guys need to get on modern 5'10 s and 5'8 s boards- you can do so much more then you can on 6'6 and 7' bath tubs

and ditch the paddle while your at it



I had a modern 5'10" Maurice Cole prone quad once.

In retrospect it was such a bad time for my surfing. a 7' prone board can do much much more, like, actually taking waves and having fun :-) I think I drastically limited my surfing level by trying to use "what the pro used" after the eighties...

a 6'6"x30" SUP allows me to actually take waves and enjoy them, as opposed to a 5'10" prone board... or a 7'4"x24" "pro" SUP.



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