localiser,do you wear a cape or speedos on the outside off your boardies,or a mask. you are now my most favourite super super hero thankyou for all the good you do for non locals
localiser,you are so amazing you have made me blush
Yes you are a busy-body-bully who thinks they are the beach police. You surf such isoltaed areas with average surf, I don't even know why u r commenting, you wouldnt see any surf rage or bullying. You can only assume what is going on on the Gold Coast. If you think the pro's are being supported here you are wrong. Occy's latest remarks made him more enemies than friends. You are both living in fairy land, sorry locals fairy land.
I can tell you that in the 70's I surfed North Naerrabeen and Dee Why point regularly and I wasn't a local. I got to surf there unhindered because I bullied the local bullies into submission. That is how it worked. It is not much different now expect the bullies hide behind surf clubs with a look of propriety. Occy eroded the surf industries credibility in the last few weeks, hopefully irrepairabley.
I can tell you that as far as the locals here are concerned, bodyboarders are invisible and so are young kids 14 and under if they feel like it.
First day I paddled out the back at D'Bah, I hadn't said one word, hadn't even paddled for a wave and was told to F##K off over there with the beginners. this was said 3 times in a week for no reason. These idiots started a war that I may not win, but they won't either if I can help it. I have plenty of support even though I have a less than tactless approach at times. You and Appsy are obviously part of the deluded, non-thinking, frightened majority. That's why you disagree with me. You enjoy yourselves.
quote]appsy said...
So if I go for a surf now and see two guys fighting or worse one guy getting the s..t beat out of him (local or non local) and i step in to assist (break it up).....I'm a bully. I call it intervention or perhaps preventing someone from serious injury.I think anyone in today's community would appreciate a act of kindness if they were attacked (by a bully local).
Very similar to walking down the street and seeing someone seriously assaulted and standing their doing nothing.
I'm pretty educated and I believe in the state of NSW you don't need a victim of "surf rage" to put someone before the court. In the state of NSW the correct charge is called "affray". If the laws becoming a joke... speak to your local member of parliament and get legislation changed.
As for board rider clubs....their awesome. They do not promote violence, in fact the club I'm involved in promotes community awareness and is a positive environment for young children and families to be involved in.
I'm a member (sometimes) of the Sydney paddle board club and have yet to see casso, goatman, dc or any other member act in a violent way towards surfers or any member of the public.
My short board club has a very strict policy any one gets in trouble with the cops... your no longer allowed in the club.
Have a good day localiser maybe come down to the sth coast of nsw one day and ill show you how nice us "bullys, board rider member, stand up paddle boarder" can be.
Hi Doggie....your a champ. WA rocks.
Boardflicker, friend of a boardflicker, if you think you are good enough to pull them apart, you still think you're bully enough to stop a fight. You still have bully tendencies. Pulling them apart might cause you more problems than it's worth, unless you are a bigger bully than the two of them put together. You appear to see your self as smoe sort of police.
You might be surprised who I know. You may not know me, but I know most of you.
I don't believe that surf rage is worse than normal, it fluctuates depending on the behaviour of those who call themselves locals.
Queensland Police can charge anyone with public nuisance if the want. The burden of proof is almost zero proof. The law is a joke. The problem would be finding independent witnesses, as most of you know each other in some way or other. And most visitors wouldn't support a local if their life depended on it.
If you locals want more respect and control, control the bullies in your ranks. It is the few bullies in your ranks that label you all bullies. If you think a surf break doesn't have bullies, just look at any good surf break e.g. North Narra, Dee Why Point, Bondi and Cronulla. What about the rock at Cabrita that says, "LOCALS ONLY." You may think it's funny, I just think whoever wrote it is a F***wit and the visitors are still intimidated by the silent form of bullying. Then we have the Bra boys at Maroubra and some f***king idiot made a movie about these idiots. They should be retrospectively charged and locked up, not celebrated. It is all a big joke. Except to the bullies who enjoy the benefits of creating a heirarchy.
No locals, no heirarchy.
Go and watch the movie the "Experiment", the democratic majority in this movie are the gutless cowards who can't think for themselves, so they follow the bigger bully and p**s on his head. The democratic majority is what creates a system that we all complain about, but we say we have to accept the system. The only reason you accept the system is because the majority are too weak. The weak are satisfied with licking the bigger bully's backside to maintain their level in the pecking order.
"The Experiment" is based on an experiment conducted by Standford University's Pysychology Department, it is one of the most interesting studies, if not the most interesting to every psychologist with regard to human behaviour. Just like all human behaviour it happens in degrees and whether you like it or not, this is what is happening in the surf around the Gold Coast. While you are part of the bullies you think you are doing nothing wrong. But remember that when someone who has no fear and refuses to be bullied comes along, just like there is in the movie, the bubble just may burst if pushed in the right direction. Before you comment go and watch the DVD, otherwise you have no intelligent foundation to rebutt me. Human beings behave like animals and it is no different in the surf.
It is sad to say that while you have 2 sides, locals & non-locals there will always be conflict. We are all the same, unless being a local provides you with special treatment, why would you want or need to be a local?
Paul Burt said on the news, "Remember! Respect the locals."
I say, "Respect your fellow human."
Maybe changing entrenched local habits might help.
Read my comment again before you start dropping my name on this forum.
My comment re surf rage was "if you see em pull em apart". Not once have i promoted aggreesive local behaviour.
"Appsy and his so called local buddies" you don't f...ing know me or who my "local buddies" are.
I can't believe how much crap you have gone on with about Police targeting surf rage.
This just goes to show that Appsy and his so-called local buddies want to decide what justice they will dish out on their chosen break. The only group of surfers you get at a break that might be big enough to mete out justice are the so-called locals. So if the surfers resolve their problems, the local bullies will be doing it as always. You so-called locals are the problem. "Please" tends to work better than "F@#K OFF!", but you so-called locals with the bunch-of-grapes mentality want an instant fix. You locals hog the waves, continually snake, bend the rules and then complain at the slightest indiscretion.
You think your remarks here are funny. What is easily seen in your remarks is that there is a bully mentality behind them. You may not be able to see this, but it is glaringly obvious to others.
The solution is to remove the locals from the water, or restrict the locals who live within 25 kilometres of the beach, to 4 so-called locals at a time.
I can handle 4
What about the good old days when if someone dropped in you just flicked your board at them!!! That all stopped however once lawyers and assault charges got thrown into the fray. In reality it was a bloody stupid and dangerous thing to do. I recall having a board flicked at me once and seeing it whistle past my ear. A big older local saw it, went over to the board flicker who was a young kid and throttled him, nothing severe just scared the crap out of him. The kid was in tears and I bet he never flicked a board again.
I therefore tend to Agree with Appsy on this one, its something surfers need to take control of as a group. This raises another problem, how many time have you heard of the third person in coming out worse off.............
You are a joke
my truck is all sticker'd up so you know I mean business even before I hit the water......and when I come screaming down the line on my 12 foot ocean liner, you better move, as an italian captian, im prone to crashing and bailing ship.
Yes you are a busy-body-bully who thinks they are the beach police. You surf such isoltaed areas with average surf, I don't even know why u r commenting, you wouldnt see any surf rage or bullying. You can only assume what is going on on the Gold Coast. If you think the pro's are being supported here you are wrong. Occy's latest remarks made him more enemies than friends. You are both living in fairy land, sorry locals fairy land.
I can tell you that in the 70's I surfed North Naerrabeen and Dee Why point regularly and I wasn't a local. I got to surf there unhindered because I bullied the local bullies into submission. That is how it worked. It is not much different now expect the bullies hide behind surf clubs with a look of propriety. Occy eroded the surf industries credibility in the last few weeks, hopefully irrepairabley.
I can tell you that as far as the locals here are concerned, bodyboarders are invisible and so are young kids 14 and under if they feel like it.
First day I paddled out the back at D'Bah, I hadn't said one word, hadn't even paddled for a wave and was told to F##K off over there with the beginners. this was said 3 times in a week for no reason. These idiots started a war that I may not win, but they won't either if I can help it. I have plenty of support even though I have a less than tactless approach at times. You and Appsy are obviously part of the deluded, non-thinking, frightened majority. That's why you disagree with me. You enjoy yourselves.
quote]appsy said...
So if I go for a surf now and see two guys fighting or worse one guy getting the s..t beat out of him (local or non local) and i step in to assist (break it up).....I'm a bully. I call it intervention or perhaps preventing someone from serious injury.I think anyone in today's community would appreciate a act of kindness if they were attacked (by a bully local).
Very similar to walking down the street and seeing someone seriously assaulted and standing their doing nothing.
I'm pretty educated and I believe in the state of NSW you don't need a victim of "surf rage" to put someone before the court. In the state of NSW the correct charge is called "affray". If the laws becoming a joke... speak to your local member of parliament and get legislation changed.
As for board rider clubs....their awesome. They do not promote violence, in fact the club I'm involved in promotes community awareness and is a positive environment for young children and families to be involved in.
I'm a member (sometimes) of the Sydney paddle board club and have yet to see casso, goatman, dc or any other member act in a violent way towards surfers or any member of the public.
My short board club has a very strict policy any one gets in trouble with the cops... your no longer allowed in the club.
Have a good day localiser maybe come down to the sth coast of nsw one day and ill show you how nice us "bullys, board rider member, stand up paddle boarder" can be.
Hi Doggie....your a champ. WA rocks.
Boardflicker, friend of a boardflicker, if you think you are good enough to pull them apart, you still think you're bully enough to stop a fight. You still have bully tendencies. Pulling them apart might cause you more problems than it's worth, unless you are a bigger bully than the two of them put together. You appear to see your self as smoe sort of police.
You might be surprised who I know. You may not know me, but I know most of you.
I don't believe that surf rage is worse than normal, it fluctuates depending on the behaviour of those who call themselves locals.
Queensland Police can charge anyone with public nuisance if the want. The burden of proof is almost zero proof. The law is a joke. The problem would be finding independent witnesses, as most of you know each other in some way or other. And most visitors wouldn't support a local if their life depended on it.
If you locals want more respect and control, control the bullies in your ranks. It is the few bullies in your ranks that label you all bullies. If you think a surf break doesn't have bullies, just look at any good surf break e.g. North Narra, Dee Why Point, Bondi and Cronulla. What about the rock at Cabrita that says, "LOCALS ONLY." You may think it's funny, I just think whoever wrote it is a F***wit and the visitors are still intimidated by the silent form of bullying. Then we have the Bra boys at Maroubra and some f***king idiot made a movie about these idiots. They should be retrospectively charged and locked up, not celebrated. It is all a big joke. Except to the bullies who enjoy the benefits of creating a heirarchy.
No locals, no heirarchy.
Go and watch the movie the "Experiment", the democratic majority in this movie are the gutless cowards who can't think for themselves, so they follow the bigger bully and p**s on his head. The democratic majority is what creates a system that we all complain about, but we say we have to accept the system. The only reason you accept the system is because the majority are too weak. The weak are satisfied with licking the bigger bully's backside to maintain their level in the pecking order.
"The Experiment" is based on an experiment conducted by Standford University's Pysychology Department, it is one of the most interesting studies, if not the most interesting to every psychologist with regard to human behaviour. Just like all human behaviour it happens in degrees and whether you like it or not, this is what is happening in the surf around the Gold Coast. While you are part of the bullies you think you are doing nothing wrong. But remember that when someone who has no fear and refuses to be bullied comes along, just like there is in the movie, the bubble just may burst if pushed in the right direction. Before you comment go and watch the DVD, otherwise you have no intelligent foundation to rebutt me. Human beings behave like animals and it is no different in the surf.
It is sad to say that while you have 2 sides, locals & non-locals there will always be conflict. We are all the same, unless being a local provides you with special treatment, why would you want or need to be a local?
Paul Burt said on the news, "Remember! Respect the locals."
I say, "Respect your fellow human."
Maybe changing entrenched local habits might help.
Read my comment again before you start dropping my name on this forum.
My comment re surf rage was "if you see em pull em apart". Not once have i promoted aggreesive local behaviour.
"Appsy and his so called local buddies" you don't f...ing know me or who my "local buddies" are.
I can't believe how much crap you have gone on with about Police targeting surf rage.
This just goes to show that Appsy and his so-called local buddies want to decide what justice they will dish out on their chosen break. The only group of surfers you get at a break that might be big enough to mete out justice are the so-called locals. So if the surfers resolve their problems, the local bullies will be doing it as always. You so-called locals are the problem. "Please" tends to work better than "F@#K OFF!", but you so-called locals with the bunch-of-grapes mentality want an instant fix. You locals hog the waves, continually snake, bend the rules and then complain at the slightest indiscretion.
You think your remarks here are funny. What is easily seen in your remarks is that there is a bully mentality behind them. You may not be able to see this, but it is glaringly obvious to others.
The solution is to remove the locals from the water, or restrict the locals who live within 25 kilometres of the beach, to 4 so-called locals at a time.
I can handle 4
What about the good old days when if someone dropped in you just flicked your board at them!!! That all stopped however once lawyers and assault charges got thrown into the fray. In reality it was a bloody stupid and dangerous thing to do. I recall having a board flicked at me once and seeing it whistle past my ear. A big older local saw it, went over to the board flicker who was a young kid and throttled him, nothing severe just scared the crap out of him. The kid was in tears and I bet he never flicked a board again.
I therefore tend to Agree with Appsy on this one, its something surfers need to take control of as a group. This raises another problem, how many time have you heard of the third person in coming out worse off.............
You are a joke
certainly started losing credibility after the first few posts. seems bit paranoid
nice long post now
Yes you are a busy-body-bully who thinks they are the beach police. You surf such isoltaed areas with average surf, I don't even know why u r commenting, you wouldnt see any surf rage or bullying. You can only assume what is going on on the Gold Coast. If you think the pro's are being supported here you are wrong. Occy's latest remarks made him more enemies than friends. You are both living in fairy land, sorry locals fairy land.
I can tell you that in the 70's I surfed North Naerrabeen and Dee Why point regularly and I wasn't a local. I got to surf there unhindered because I bullied the local bullies into submission. That is how it worked. It is not much different now expect the bullies hide behind surf clubs with a look of propriety. Occy eroded the surf industries credibility in the last few weeks, hopefully irrepairabley.
I can tell you that as far as the locals here are concerned, bodyboarders are invisible and so are young kids 14 and under if they feel like it.
First day I paddled out the back at D'Bah, I hadn't said one word, hadn't even paddled for a wave and was told to F##K off over there with the beginners. this was said 3 times in a week for no reason. These idiots started a war that I may not win, but they won't either if I can help it. I have plenty of support even though I have a less than tactless approach at times. You and Appsy are obviously part of the deluded, non-thinking, frightened majority. That's why you disagree with me. You enjoy yourselves.
quote]appsy said...
So if I go for a surf now and see two guys fighting or worse one guy getting the s..t beat out of him (local or non local) and i step in to assist (break it up).....I'm a bully. I call it intervention or perhaps preventing someone from serious injury.I think anyone in today's community would appreciate a act of kindness if they were attacked (by a bully local).
Very similar to walking down the street and seeing someone seriously assaulted and standing their doing nothing.
I'm pretty educated and I believe in the state of NSW you don't need a victim of "surf rage" to put someone before the court. In the state of NSW the correct charge is called "affray". If the laws becoming a joke... speak to your local member of parliament and get legislation changed.
As for board rider clubs....their awesome. They do not promote violence, in fact the club I'm involved in promotes community awareness and is a positive environment for young children and families to be involved in.
I'm a member (sometimes) of the Sydney paddle board club and have yet to see casso, goatman, dc or any other member act in a violent way towards surfers or any member of the public.
My short board club has a very strict policy any one gets in trouble with the cops... your no longer allowed in the club.
Have a good day localiser maybe come down to the sth coast of nsw one day and ill show you how nice us "bullys, board rider member, stand up paddle boarder" can be.
Hi Doggie....your a champ. WA rocks.
Boardflicker, friend of a boardflicker, if you think you are good enough to pull them apart, you still think you're bully enough to stop a fight. You still have bully tendencies. Pulling them apart might cause you more problems than it's worth, unless you are a bigger bully than the two of them put together. You appear to see your self as smoe sort of police.
You might be surprised who I know. You may not know me, but I know most of you.
I don't believe that surf rage is worse than normal, it fluctuates depending on the behaviour of those who call themselves locals.
Queensland Police can charge anyone with public nuisance if the want. The burden of proof is almost zero proof. The law is a joke. The problem would be finding independent witnesses, as most of you know each other in some way or other. And most visitors wouldn't support a local if their life depended on it.
If you locals want more respect and control, control the bullies in your ranks. It is the few bullies in your ranks that label you all bullies. If you think a surf break doesn't have bullies, just look at any good surf break e.g. North Narra, Dee Why Point, Bondi and Cronulla. What about the rock at Cabrita that says, "LOCALS ONLY." You may think it's funny, I just think whoever wrote it is a F***wit and the visitors are still intimidated by the silent form of bullying. Then we have the Bra boys at Maroubra and some f***king idiot made a movie about these idiots. They should be retrospectively charged and locked up, not celebrated. It is all a big joke. Except to the bullies who enjoy the benefits of creating a heirarchy.
No locals, no heirarchy.
Go and watch the movie the "Experiment", the democratic majority in this movie are the gutless cowards who can't think for themselves, so they follow the bigger bully and p**s on his head. The democratic majority is what creates a system that we all complain about, but we say we have to accept the system. The only reason you accept the system is because the majority are too weak. The weak are satisfied with licking the bigger bully's backside to maintain their level in the pecking order.
"The Experiment" is based on an experiment conducted by Standford University's Pysychology Department, it is one of the most interesting studies, if not the most interesting to every psychologist with regard to human behaviour. Just like all human behaviour it happens in degrees and whether you like it or not, this is what is happening in the surf around the Gold Coast. While you are part of the bullies you think you are doing nothing wrong. But remember that when someone who has no fear and refuses to be bullied comes along, just like there is in the movie, the bubble just may burst if pushed in the right direction. Before you comment go and watch the DVD, otherwise you have no intelligent foundation to rebutt me. Human beings behave like animals and it is no different in the surf.
It is sad to say that while you have 2 sides, locals & non-locals there will always be conflict. We are all the same, unless being a local provides you with special treatment, why would you want or need to be a local?
Paul Burt said on the news, "Remember! Respect the locals."
I say, "Respect your fellow human."
Maybe changing entrenched local habits might help.
Read my comment again before you start dropping my name on this forum.
My comment re surf rage was "if you see em pull em apart". Not once have i promoted aggreesive local behaviour.
"Appsy and his so called local buddies" you don't f...ing know me or who my "local buddies" are.
I can't believe how much crap you have gone on with about Police targeting surf rage.
This just goes to show that Appsy and his so-called local buddies want to decide what justice they will dish out on their chosen break. The only group of surfers you get at a break that might be big enough to mete out justice are the so-called locals. So if the surfers resolve their problems, the local bullies will be doing it as always. You so-called locals are the problem. "Please" tends to work better than "F@#K OFF!", but you so-called locals with the bunch-of-grapes mentality want an instant fix. You locals hog the waves, continually snake, bend the rules and then complain at the slightest indiscretion.
You think your remarks here are funny. What is easily seen in your remarks is that there is a bully mentality behind them. You may not be able to see this, but it is glaringly obvious to others.
The solution is to remove the locals from the water, or restrict the locals who live within 25 kilometres of the beach, to 4 so-called locals at a time.
I can handle 4
What about the good old days when if someone dropped in you just flicked your board at them!!! That all stopped however once lawyers and assault charges got thrown into the fray. In reality it was a bloody stupid and dangerous thing to do. I recall having a board flicked at me once and seeing it whistle past my ear. A big older local saw it, went over to the board flicker who was a young kid and throttled him, nothing severe just scared the crap out of him. The kid was in tears and I bet he never flicked a board again.
I therefore tend to Agree with Appsy on this one, its something surfers need to take control of as a group. This raises another problem, how many time have you heard of the third person in coming out worse off.............
You are a joke
certainly started losing credibility after the first few posts. seems bit paranoid
nice long post now
your right.it is long
Interesting read from stabmag
Has that happened to the Occ?
The other day, this guys was taking off and I was paddling out of his way. I could've put my legs up but he had plenty of room, so I didn't, thinking he'd go around them. And he didn't, he just went straight over my foot and nearly sliced it open. I caught the next wave and went looking for him. I found him and was just like, "Faaaark…" and he's like, "Oh, sorry." But he hand't sliced me open so I didn't get aggro with him. If he did slice me I think I would've. I mighta punched him or something, which I always hate doing… But if someone cuts you and they could've avoided it, that's kinda reason to get aggro.
funny as, Occ punching someone, must be a beat up eh.
My Rules are;
1. This rules overides every other rule without exception; First person up on the face of the wave has right of way, not the guy 10 metres further in on the inside. I'm inflexible when the distance is sufficient enough that there is no arguement who was first up and in control.
2. The first person up closest to the peak on the face of the wave has right of way. I grew up with the annoying Longboarders catching all the waves and the surf skis too. I am used to that.
3. Coming from the wrong side of the peak is dropping in. This means you only come through the backdoor if no one is already on the otherside of the peak.
4. Catching the inside; If I'm on the wave don't catch the inside and then call me off, catching the wave doesnt necessarily bother me, but if you push your luck I'll cut straight back over the top of you.
5. No Dropping In; Dropping in on me doesnt necesarily bother me either, just don't cut back on me.
6. Everyone is equal; Bodyboarders are to be treated like everyone else and not ignored as if they don't exist like the many locals at Snapper and D'Bah pretend. Oh! I forgot I have to earn respect. Who the f**K decided I have to earn respect? Some idiot local?
7. No Hogging; This constant paddling to the left is bulls##t. This is hogging, but it doesn't appear to be hogging if you are a local.
8. No Snaking; The snaking is just as prevalent as the hogging, I suppose this is the advantage a shortboard can have over a long board.
9. I don't swim behind anyone at anytime, because I don't trust their board not hitting me.
10. No local crap; If I'm paddling over a big set dont paddle over the top of me at 90 degrees, tell me to get out of the F&&&k'n way and both of us go over the falls. Don't paddle to the left over the top of me to stop me getting on the wave, laugh your head off while you call your mate on to the wave. Don't drop in on me and when I put my hand accidently on her backside to avoid a collision, have your local friends abuse the absolute crap out of me and claim I was pushing her. I'm very hard to intimidate
11. If for some reason there is an impending collision, the person paddling out should let their board go and duck under the wave rather than put the onus on the wave rider to pull out (waves are very rare).
12. If someone says sorry. Accept the apology and say, "That's okay."
Have any of you ever made a mistake?
I find the Brazilians are very polite in this respect.
13. Grey 50 year olds; Just because someone is over 50 and grey, doesn't mean they are non existent. Some of the champion UFC fighters are close to 50.
14. Offer someone a wave, I do, it can stop this attitude of hassling for a wave with your back bent, paddling franticly with your neck stuck out like a turkey. Although some idiots mistake this kindness for weakness.
All the cuts on my feet and hands are from the rocks or the back of the fin. Lennox is the worst. I don't think your scenario would cut your foot unless he sharpened his fins (That's and idea).
Maybe you could have got out of the way. I try to.
When was the last time you punched someone?
Who's localiser?
I'm voting for Campbell Newman. I've always wanted to see Queensland with a non-corrupt government.
Apparently Anna Bligh talks in her sleep. She keeps repeating over and over, "Don't you worry about that! You let me worry about that!" She also speaks Afrikaans uncontrollably when hypnotised. She also has an illegitimate son, I believe his name is Joh Hinze
Hmmmmmm,
Valuable things I learned from this post:
There cant be any surf or it wouldnt exist!
I dont read long posts I have the attention span of a gold fish.
Actual surfing gets you fit eventually keyboard surfing gives you carpal tunnel.
Live long and prosper, but before you do pass me the jaffas and a choc top
Yes you are a busy-body-bully who thinks they are the beach police. You surf such isoltaed areas with average surf, I don't even know why u r commenting, you wouldnt see any surf rage or bullying. You can only assume what is going on on the Gold Coast. If you think the pro's are being supported here you are wrong. Occy's latest remarks made him more enemies than friends. You are both living in fairy land, sorry locals fairy land.
I can tell you that in the 70's I surfed North Naerrabeen and Dee Why point regularly and I wasn't a local. I got to surf there unhindered because I bullied the local bullies into submission. That is how it worked. It is not much different now expect the bullies hide behind surf clubs with a look of propriety. Occy eroded the surf industries credibility in the last few weeks, hopefully irrepairabley.
I can tell you that as far as the locals here are concerned, bodyboarders are invisible and so are young kids 14 and under if they feel like it.
First day I paddled out the back at D'Bah, I hadn't said one word, hadn't even paddled for a wave and was told to F##K off over there with the beginners. this was said 3 times in a week for no reason. These idiots started a war that I may not win, but they won't either if I can help it. I have plenty of support even though I have a less than tactless approach at times. You and Appsy are obviously part of the deluded, non-thinking, frightened majority. That's why you disagree with me. You enjoy yourselves.
quote]appsy said...
So if I go for a surf now and see two guys fighting or worse one guy getting the s..t beat out of him (local or non local) and i step in to assist (break it up).....I'm a bully. I call it intervention or perhaps preventing someone from serious injury.I think anyone in today's community would appreciate a act of kindness if they were attacked (by a bully local).
Very similar to walking down the street and seeing someone seriously assaulted and standing their doing nothing.
I'm pretty educated and I believe in the state of NSW you don't need a victim of "surf rage" to put someone before the court. In the state of NSW the correct charge is called "affray". If the laws becoming a joke... speak to your local member of parliament and get legislation changed.
As for board rider clubs....their awesome. They do not promote violence, in fact the club I'm involved in promotes community awareness and is a positive environment for young children and families to be involved in.
I'm a member (sometimes) of the Sydney paddle board club and have yet to see casso, goatman, dc or any other member act in a violent way towards surfers or any member of the public.
My short board club has a very strict policy any one gets in trouble with the cops... your no longer allowed in the club.
Have a good day localiser maybe come down to the sth coast of nsw one day and ill show you how nice us "bullys, board rider member, stand up paddle boarder" can be.
Hi Doggie....your a champ. WA rocks.
Boardflicker, friend of a boardflicker, if you think you are good enough to pull them apart, you still think you're bully enough to stop a fight. You still have bully tendencies. Pulling them apart might cause you more problems than it's worth, unless you are a bigger bully than the two of them put together. You appear to see your self as smoe sort of police.
You might be surprised who I know. You may not know me, but I know most of you.
I don't believe that surf rage is worse than normal, it fluctuates depending on the behaviour of those who call themselves locals.
Queensland Police can charge anyone with public nuisance if the want. The burden of proof is almost zero proof. The law is a joke. The problem would be finding independent witnesses, as most of you know each other in some way or other. And most visitors wouldn't support a local if their life depended on it.
If you locals want more respect and control, control the bullies in your ranks. It is the few bullies in your ranks that label you all bullies. If you think a surf break doesn't have bullies, just look at any good surf break e.g. North Narra, Dee Why Point, Bondi and Cronulla. What about the rock at Cabrita that says, "LOCALS ONLY." You may think it's funny, I just think whoever wrote it is a F***wit and the visitors are still intimidated by the silent form of bullying. Then we have the Bra boys at Maroubra and some f***king idiot made a movie about these idiots. They should be retrospectively charged and locked up, not celebrated. It is all a big joke. Except to the bullies who enjoy the benefits of creating a heirarchy.
No locals, no heirarchy.
Go and watch the movie the "Experiment", the democratic majority in this movie are the gutless cowards who can't think for themselves, so they follow the bigger bully and p**s on his head. The democratic majority is what creates a system that we all complain about, but we say we have to accept the system. The only reason you accept the system is because the majority are too weak. The weak are satisfied with licking the bigger bully's backside to maintain their level in the pecking order.
"The Experiment" is based on an experiment conducted by Standford University's Pysychology Department, it is one of the most interesting studies, if not the most interesting to every psychologist with regard to human behaviour. Just like all human behaviour it happens in degrees and whether you like it or not, this is what is happening in the surf around the Gold Coast. While you are part of the bullies you think you are doing nothing wrong. But remember that when someone who has no fear and refuses to be bullied comes along, just like there is in the movie, the bubble just may burst if pushed in the right direction. Before you comment go and watch the DVD, otherwise you have no intelligent foundation to rebutt me. Human beings behave like animals and it is no different in the surf.
It is sad to say that while you have 2 sides, locals & non-locals there will always be conflict. We are all the same, unless being a local provides you with special treatment, why would you want or need to be a local?
Paul Burt said on the news, "Remember! Respect the locals."
I say, "Respect your fellow human."
Maybe changing entrenched local habits might help.
Read my comment again before you start dropping my name on this forum.
My comment re surf rage was "if you see em pull em apart". Not once have i promoted aggreesive local behaviour.
"Appsy and his so called local buddies" you don't f...ing know me or who my "local buddies" are.
I can't believe how much crap you have gone on with about Police targeting surf rage.
This just goes to show that Appsy and his so-called local buddies want to decide what justice they will dish out on their chosen break. The only group of surfers you get at a break that might be big enough to mete out justice are the so-called locals. So if the surfers resolve their problems, the local bullies will be doing it as always. You so-called locals are the problem. "Please" tends to work better than "F@#K OFF!", but you so-called locals with the bunch-of-grapes mentality want an instant fix. You locals hog the waves, continually snake, bend the rules and then complain at the slightest indiscretion.
You think your remarks here are funny. What is easily seen in your remarks is that there is a bully mentality behind them. You may not be able to see this, but it is glaringly obvious to others.
The solution is to remove the locals from the water, or restrict the locals who live within 25 kilometres of the beach, to 4 so-called locals at a time.
I can handle 4
What about the good old days when if someone dropped in you just flicked your board at them!!! That all stopped however once lawyers and assault charges got thrown into the fray. In reality it was a bloody stupid and dangerous thing to do. I recall having a board flicked at me once and seeing it whistle past my ear. A big older local saw it, went over to the board flicker who was a young kid and throttled him, nothing severe just scared the crap out of him. The kid was in tears and I bet he never flicked a board again.
I therefore tend to Agree with Appsy on this one, its something surfers need to take control of as a group. This raises another problem, how many time have you heard of the third person in coming out worse off.............
You are a joke
certainly started losing credibility after the first few posts. seems bit paranoid
nice long post now
I agree 100%, if we don't all follow the same rules, it becomes the biggest bully wins. While you joke about the aggression you are still intimidating people. If you want to play bullies with big sticks I'm happy to play, but I guarantee I won't play fair. Chivalry is for idiots.
We really need to take a ticket just as most of us do at the deli in Woolworths, until the locals decide they are not special people.
I'd like to thank you all on behalf of The Swinburne University's Psychology department for taking part in an impromptu survey. We deliberately posted controversal remarks that had very logical and ethical aspects within all the posts. The idea was to determine the flexibility of the mind and the ability to think as an individual. The results have confirmed that the majority of people are inflexible with regard to new ideas being put to them. The response to new ideas reflects an attitude of anger or dismissiveness. Only one person showed an open mind prepared to use reason when making a judgement. The rest of you responded as indocrinated members of a low socio-economic group would. This manifested itself as a fear of something that was outside the normal bounds of what you percieve your environment to be, I emphasise percieve as this is done without much thought. This showed that the majority do not have the ability to process information and make a personal judgement, but rather respond without thinking something through. To sum it up; any possible change is met with resentment by the majority. We need to determine those persons who can think for themselves as individuals and only allow those persons that act as individuals to determine the laws and system under which we live. Otherwise we are being lead by the blind majority that are satisfied with the status quo, right or wrong. This attitude does not bring about change. You have to understand that, "Nothing is constant but change." If you are not prepared to change you will be left behind.
Nice reply Steve but your over analytical response shows your lack of time on the water (lately), life is not a bunch of lego blocks and it won't always fit together.The fitter more talented surfer will always be inside you , taking a ticket at Woolies is just bullsh!t.
Honestly life is not that hard "Just Surf' if it's too crowded go somewhere else.If you and your mates at the Swinburne University's Psychology department feel the need to do an impromptu survey why don't you focus on yourselves.
No wonder I rarely read this **** anymore, have a listen to yourselves. "Boo hoo hoo, i got snaked" who fu#ken cares. This forum has lost it, and so has this Localiser bloke. If its gonna be like this, I think we should encourage surf rage, might get these whinging f#cks out of our already crowded line ups
You obviously are on a collision course with me if you don't take some notice of correct protocol. Eating porridge and sleeping on my back with my mouth closed doesn't bother me. ]surferstu said...
Yes you are a busy-body-bully who thinks they are the beach police. You surf such isoltaed areas with average surf, I don't even know why u r commenting, you wouldnt see any surf rage or bullying. You can only assume what is going on on the Gold Coast. If you think the pro's are being supported here you are wrong. Occy's latest remarks made him more enemies than friends. You are both living in fairy land, sorry locals fairy land.
I can tell you that in the 70's I surfed North Naerrabeen and Dee Why point regularly and I wasn't a local. I got to surf there unhindered because I bullied the local bullies into submission. That is how it worked. It is not much different now expect the bullies hide behind surf clubs with a look of propriety. Occy eroded the surf industries credibility in the last few weeks, hopefully irrepairabley.
I can tell you that as far as the locals here are concerned, bodyboarders are invisible and so are young kids 14 and under if they feel like it.
First day I paddled out the back at D'Bah, I hadn't said one word, hadn't even paddled for a wave and was told to F##K off over there with the beginners. this was said 3 times in a week for no reason. These idiots started a war that I may not win, but they won't either if I can help it. I have plenty of support even though I have a less than tactless approach at times. You and Appsy are obviously part of the deluded, non-thinking, frightened majority. That's why you disagree with me. You enjoy yourselves.
quote]appsy said...
So if I go for a surf now and see two guys fighting or worse one guy getting the s..t beat out of him (local or non local) and i step in to assist (break it up).....I'm a bully. I call it intervention or perhaps preventing someone from serious injury.I think anyone in today's community would appreciate a act of kindness if they were attacked (by a bully local).
Very similar to walking down the street and seeing someone seriously assaulted and standing their doing nothing.
I'm pretty educated and I believe in the state of NSW you don't need a victim of "surf rage" to put someone before the court. In the state of NSW the correct charge is called "affray". If the laws becoming a joke... speak to your local member of parliament and get legislation changed.
As for board rider clubs....their awesome. They do not promote violence, in fact the club I'm involved in promotes community awareness and is a positive environment for young children and families to be involved in.
I'm a member (sometimes) of the Sydney paddle board club and have yet to see casso, goatman, dc or any other member act in a violent way towards surfers or any member of the public.
My short board club has a very strict policy any one gets in trouble with the cops... your no longer allowed in the club.
Have a good day localiser maybe come down to the sth coast of nsw one day and ill show you how nice us "bullys, board rider member, stand up paddle boarder" can be.
Hi Doggie....your a champ. WA rocks.
Boardflicker, friend of a boardflicker, if you think you are good enough to pull them apart, you still think you're bully enough to stop a fight. You still have bully tendencies. Pulling them apart might cause you more problems than it's worth, unless you are a bigger bully than the two of them put together. You appear to see your self as smoe sort of police.
You might be surprised who I know. You may not know me, but I know most of you.
I don't believe that surf rage is worse than normal, it fluctuates depending on the behaviour of those who call themselves locals.
Queensland Police can charge anyone with public nuisance if the want. The burden of proof is almost zero proof. The law is a joke. The problem would be finding independent witnesses, as most of you know each other in some way or other. And most visitors wouldn't support a local if their life depended on it.
If you locals want more respect and control, control the bullies in your ranks. It is the few bullies in your ranks that label you all bullies. If you think a surf break doesn't have bullies, just look at any good surf break e.g. North Narra, Dee Why Point, Bondi and Cronulla. What about the rock at Cabrita that says, "LOCALS ONLY." You may think it's funny, I just think whoever wrote it is a F***wit and the visitors are still intimidated by the silent form of bullying. Then we have the Bra boys at Maroubra and some f***king idiot made a movie about these idiots. They should be retrospectively charged and locked up, not celebrated. It is all a big joke. Except to the bullies who enjoy the benefits of creating a heirarchy.
No locals, no heirarchy.
Go and watch the movie the "Experiment", the democratic majority in this movie are the gutless cowards who can't think for themselves, so they follow the bigger bully and p**s on his head. The democratic majority is what creates a system that we all complain about, but we say we have to accept the system. The only reason you accept the system is because the majority are too weak. The weak are satisfied with licking the bigger bully's backside to maintain their level in the pecking order.
"The Experiment" is based on an experiment conducted by Standford University's Pysychology Department, it is one of the most interesting studies, if not the most interesting to every psychologist with regard to human behaviour. Just like all human behaviour it happens in degrees and whether you like it or not, this is what is happening in the surf around the Gold Coast. While you are part of the bullies you think you are doing nothing wrong. But remember that when someone who has no fear and refuses to be bullied comes along, just like there is in the movie, the bubble just may burst if pushed in the right direction. Before you comment go and watch the DVD, otherwise you have no intelligent foundation to rebutt me. Human beings behave like animals and it is no different in the surf.
It is sad to say that while you have 2 sides, locals & non-locals there will always be conflict. We are all the same, unless being a local provides you with special treatment, why would you want or need to be a local?
Paul Burt said on the news, "Remember! Respect the locals."
I say, "Respect your fellow human."
Maybe changing entrenched local habits might help.
Read my comment again before you start dropping my name on this forum.
My comment re surf rage was "if you see em pull em apart". Not once have i promoted aggreesive local behaviour.
"Appsy and his so called local buddies" you don't f...ing know me or who my "local buddies" are.
I can't believe how much crap you have gone on with about Police targeting surf rage.
This just goes to show that Appsy and his so-called local buddies want to decide what justice they will dish out on their chosen break. The only group of surfers you get at a break that might be big enough to mete out justice are the so-called locals. So if the surfers resolve their problems, the local bullies will be doing it as always. You so-called locals are the problem. "Please" tends to work better than "F@#K OFF!", but you so-called locals with the bunch-of-grapes mentality want an instant fix. You locals hog the waves, continually snake, bend the rules and then complain at the slightest indiscretion.
You think your remarks here are funny. What is easily seen in your remarks is that there is a bully mentality behind them. You may not be able to see this, but it is glaringly obvious to others.
The solution is to remove the locals from the water, or restrict the locals who live within 25 kilometres of the beach, to 4 so-called locals at a time.
I can handle 4
What about the good old days when if someone dropped in you just flicked your board at them!!! That all stopped however once lawyers and assault charges got thrown into the fray. In reality it was a bloody stupid and dangerous thing to do. I recall having a board flicked at me once and seeing it whistle past my ear. A big older local saw it, went over to the board flicker who was a young kid and throttled him, nothing severe just scared the crap out of him. The kid was in tears and I bet he never flicked a board again.
I therefore tend to Agree with Appsy on this one, its something surfers need to take control of as a group. This raises another problem, how many time have you heard of the third person in coming out worse off.............
You are a joke
certainly started losing credibility after the first few posts. seems bit paranoid
nice long post now waste everyone's time
Hi Krusty,
Where do you surf Krusty? I'll give you a first hand look at my outfit. Which board do you use? The blue and white one or the Egg? I'll keep a look out for you.[}:)]
Your hippo looks like it's flogging it's log in an epiletic spas attack. I hope that's not a true reflection on who u r.
Would be funny if it wasn't so serious.
You must have been sniffing Wayne Deane's undies.
Hay Gav! You sound like someone I'd love to get together and give a big hug. I'll bet you can't escape my grip