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Created by Daneli > 9 months ago, 17 Aug 2012
towball
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19 Aug 2012 2:21AM
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Ted the Kiwi said...

Good points there CC. You can buy t-shirts at the Auckland airport when you leave that say you support NZ and anyone playing Australia - I do not have one though

Game was won with some super defence and set piece play - Australia were poor at the fundamentals. The AB's were not on song with lots of rusty passes going to ground with the try line in sight. 4 or 5 try's were blown. We will be better for the run out and I would think we will put a decent score on them next weekend. The ref loved to blow the whistle in that game and ruined the spectacle but players on both sides were a bit guilty.

Isareal Dagg would be an unreal fullback in a league team. He is unreal at bringing the ball back. I loved how the AB's used the set piece - makes me always wonder why the league teams never seek to make plays from the scrum - we scored two try's off moves like that.


Daneli
QLD, 1538 posts
19 Aug 2012 5:33AM
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Ted the Kiwi said...

Good points there CC. You can buy t-shirts at the Auckland airport when you leave that say you support NZ and anyone playing Australia - I do not have one though

Game was won with some super defence and set piece play - Australia were poor at the fundamentals. The AB's were not on song with lots of rusty passes going to ground with the try line in sight. 4 or 5 try's were blown. We will be better for the run out and I would think we will put a decent score on them next weekend. The ref loved to blow the whistle in that game and ruined the spectacle but players on both sides were a bit guilty.

Isareal Dagg would be an unreal fullback in a league team. He is unreal at bringing the ball back. I loved how the AB's used the set piece - makes me always wonder why the league teams never seek to make plays from the scrum - we scored two try's off moves like that.


All true Ted, Congrats a far better team IMO.

What was your assessment on the Harka?

chrispychru
QLD, 7932 posts
19 Aug 2012 5:38AM
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towball said...

Ted the Kiwi said...

Good points there CC. You can buy t-shirts at the Auckland airport when you leave that say you support NZ and anyone playing Australia - I do not have one though

Game was won with some super defence and set piece play - Australia were poor at the fundamentals. The AB's were not on song with lots of rusty passes going to ground with the try line in sight. 4 or 5 try's were blown. We will be better for the run out and I would think we will put a decent score on them next weekend. The ref loved to blow the whistle in that game and ruined the spectacle but players on both sides were a bit guilty.

Isareal Dagg would be an unreal fullback in a league team. He is unreal at bringing the ball back. I loved how the AB's used the set piece - makes me always wonder why the league teams never seek to make plays from the scrum - we scored two try's off moves like that.





because in league ted..we dont have any proper scrums anymore,sadly

Tassiedevel
TAS, 2249 posts
19 Aug 2012 8:41AM
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Surprise , surprise Robbie Deans is in danger of losing his job .

Wonder if it would be a different story if some of those all black players were wearing green and gold ,bit like in the rugby league

towball
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19 Aug 2012 7:14AM
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Bugger don't want to lose our secret weapon .

Tassiedevel said...

Surprise , surprise Robbie Deans is in danger of losing his job .

Wonder if it would be a different story if some of those all black players were wearing green and gold ,bit like in the rugby league


Tassiedevel
TAS, 2249 posts
19 Aug 2012 9:35AM
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towball said...

Bugger don't want to lose our secret weapon .
Tassiedevel said...

Surprise , surprise Robbie Deans is in danger of losing his job .

Wonder if it would be a different story if some of those all black players were wearing green and gold ,bit like in the rugby league





Which one TB the kiwi coach coaching the rugby team or the kiwi player in the kangaroos

BulldogPup
6657 posts
19 Aug 2012 7:54AM
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smashed - have to say well dun AB's

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
19 Aug 2012 2:18PM
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I find it hard to blame the coach - its the cattle that he has to deal with. Beale played absolutely terrible - his defence was bad and he dropped the ball several times. Most of the wallabies got stage fright....they are just terrible under pressure. He should have had a better team after this long but I do feel for him.

I think the Ab's will be annoyed with their performance and will be expecting a big lift from them next Saturday at Eden Park.

BulldogPup
6657 posts
19 Aug 2012 12:29PM
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^^^
You'd be excused for thinking the Wallabies might have learnt even a little wisp about how the AB's set themselves up under Robbie - just seems to be a gap in class & nous every year.
It cannot be his fault - he's not the one out there on the paddock

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
26 Aug 2012 8:34PM
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Great game and result I thought

chrispychru
QLD, 7932 posts
26 Aug 2012 8:36PM
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Ted the Kiwi said...

Great game and result I thought


well i cannot see anything changing in the next 50 years

BulldogPup
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26 Aug 2012 7:56PM
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nil farken shizzzen nil geez .... congrats to the Blackers just too farken good

towball
4627 posts
27 Aug 2012 3:08AM
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But we wont talk about cricket .

Daneli
QLD, 1538 posts
27 Aug 2012 7:20AM
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towball said...


But we wont talk about cricket .


Bring back the Dennis Lillee Mo !!!!!

chrispychru
QLD, 7932 posts
27 Aug 2012 7:23AM
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Daneli said...

towball said...


But we wont talk about cricket .


Bring back the Dennis Lillee Mo !!!!!


you could grow one and look the goods daneli

BulldogPup
6657 posts
27 Aug 2012 5:28AM
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Daneli said...

towball said...


But we wont talk about cricket .


Bring back the Dennis Lillee Mo !!!!!




Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
27 Aug 2012 8:34AM
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in fairness the caoaches will probably be annoyed with that result - we dropped balls that should not have been dropped, were penalised at the scrum, blew several tries and Dan missed a kick from out in front early on. We will need to lift to punish those Saffa's. It was far from a convincing win except on the scoreboard - but I will take it.

0, 10 and 22 - 3 great numbers..........

chrispychru
QLD, 7932 posts
27 Aug 2012 8:37AM
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then again the saffas lost to argentina

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
27 Aug 2012 8:38AM
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chrispychru said...

then again the saffas lost to argentina


16 - 16 I thought it finished - the Argies were up 16-6 at half time and let them back in sadly....

BulldogPup
6657 posts
27 Aug 2012 6:41AM
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Looking like a NZ domination then

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
28 Aug 2012 1:30PM
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good read - some very funny lines in it - TB u will like this

Here is something Robbie Deans could never have imagined five years ago when he took the Wallabies job. He is now more popular in New Zealand than when he was winning four Super Rugby titles with the Crusaders.

The Crusaders only made Cantabrians happy. Five successive Bledisloe Cup defeats and, most notably, a World Cup loss to the All Blacks last year, have put a spring in every Kiwi's step.

Deans's success with the Wallabies should have been measured by the number of security guards he needed while strolling through the streets of Wellington. Instead, the only thing Kiwis are likely to throw at Deans is ticker-tape. Surely, after Saturday night's abject performance, only the six London gold medallists and the winner of the Waikato sheepdog trials can challenge him for New Zealand sportsman of the year.

This is not to underestimate the enormity of the task the Wallabies have against the one of the world's great teams. One made more difficult, before their pointless performance, by injuries. The Wallabies at Eden Park without their heart-and-soul captain David Pocock were like Dirty Harry without his Smith and Wesson. Or, on more recent efforts, like Elmer Fudd without his shotgun during ''wabbit hunting season''.
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A measure of the diminished expectations of the Wallabies was that cheerleading television commentators raved about their heroism after they conceded only three points during the 10 minutes Will Genia spent in the sin bin. In the context of a once proud tradition, it was like praising Tiger Woods for only dropping three shots on the back nine.

Inevitably, Deans's future has been a hot topic since the final hooter. Or perhaps, as our rugby correspondent Greg Growden noted, from the moment Israel Dagg - who, incidentally, sounds more like a kid from Tel Aviv wearing an unfashionable yarmulke than another All Blacks powerhouse - scored the only try, and the Wallaby forwards failed to chase the kick-off. This was a team, as Growden put it, ''that had lost the plot''.

It might be unfair to judge Deans's solely on performances against the mighty All Blacks. However, the spotlight on the coach's performance seems reasonable given he has had sufficient time to make a greater impact. Certainly, it has embarrassed those who extended his contract before last year's World Cup (that was the ARU, incidentally, not the NZRU).

But, regardless of where the fault lies, the Wallabies' malaise comes at a perilous time. The new NRL rights deal means the marketplace for players will be more competitive, with the ARU no longer able to trump the NRL's contract offers. At the same time, the guarantee of regular and more meaningful international competition hardly seems appealing when it involves yet another savage beating by the rampaging All Blacks.

Sonny Bill Williams expressed regret about leaving the All Blacks for the Roosters. Given the same opportunity, you suspect a Wallaby would be no more regretful than a passenger on the Titanic offered the last seat in a lifeboat.

Thus, the Wallabies need all the love they can get. Which made Quade Cooper's one-statement press conference before the team limped into the Eden Park graveyard even more disastrous.

Cooper's pre-conceived smart aleckry might have raised a few smirks from his Twitter followers, and allowed him to revel in the delusion he had settled scores with his critics. But from a man whose vast reputation is yet to be matched by his performance against the best opposition, behaving with such childish petulance only enhanced the impression the Wallabies are a bunch of entitled underachievers - something that devalues the noble work of mature, dedicated warhorses such as Pocock and James Horwill.

In the context of the billions of dollars now committed by Australian networks to AFL and NRL, rugby is both fortunate and cursed. Fortunate to have been part of the last SANZAR deal that keeps the wolf from the door until 2015. But cursed by the limited free-to-air exposure it receives, given all live Super Rugby is shown on Fox Sports, and Nine is clearly more committed to the NRL than it is the ARU.

As its competitors muscle up, there is an growing feeling that, despite its strong private school breeding grounds and top-end-of-town support, rugby is the code most in danger of being squeezed. Both for first-choice athletes, and media rights and sponsorship dollars.

More competitive performances by the Super Rugby teams - particularly the Waratahs - would make a difference. But, like football, rugby's fortunes remain closely linked to the success of the national team.

Deans has been given a decent crack and proven an enormous success. Alas, mainly with Kiwis.

Read more: www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/deans-is-popular-just-not-with-us-20120827-24wie.html

towball
4627 posts
28 Aug 2012 12:24PM
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Sad really ted , at the end of the day it's our National sport let's not forget it properbly only ranks no3 with most aussies , I guess you could argue the population difference could make up for this but the feeling for the sport is very strong in heartland NZ.

SP
10979 posts
28 Aug 2012 12:39PM
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Yeah, the numbers thing is the biggest factor, rugby league is our national sport, where did you finish in the world cup?
And soccer, how did you blokes go at the world cup....?..

Our girls like netball two..?..


Oh ****... You beat us in all them 2.....

Cricket anyone??


As for R Deans, got to go sorry but his ideas haven't worked, he identified the problems when he came in but hasn't been able to overcome them, so maybe some new ideas are needed. Not bagging Robbie his records speaks for itself but The wallabies are woeful.

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
28 Aug 2012 3:51PM
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I was no meaning to have a crack at you Aussies by posting the article - I just loved it how the journalist ripped the **** out of Robbie - thought it was very funny!

This is the first year in a long time that I have watched rugby post a world cup - normally we lose so I have to have 2 yrs off before I can support them again

How good was Howzat? I loved that show. Wish it had been on for a few more nights. Lets hope they do one on Warnie soon as there would be enough material to do a few 20 show series I reckon

Daneli
QLD, 1538 posts
20 Oct 2012 8:37PM
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I'm not even going to bother wishing you Kiwis good luck

Daneli
QLD, 1538 posts
20 Oct 2012 8:56PM
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$6.75 for the Wobbalies and $1.10 for the Kiwis. Says everything.

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
20 Oct 2012 7:07PM
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sorry but the a league game is a cracker atm

Daneli
QLD, 1538 posts
20 Oct 2012 9:19PM
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62mac said...
sorry but the a league game is a cracker atm


I just haven't been able to get into the soccer.. To be honest I'm a bit put off from all the dives.

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
20 Oct 2012 7:20PM
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Not in the A League mate.

kadilak
QLD, 605 posts
22 Oct 2012 6:47PM
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Daneli said...
62mac said...
sorry but the a league game is a cracker atm


I just haven't been able to get into the soccer.. To be honest I'm a bit put off from all the dives.


Agree. My kids went through a soccer phase so we went to an international game. One player made an art form of striking opponents on their arms with his neck to get penalties. Sad attitude.



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