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Mid length recomendations

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Created by JBATES > 9 months ago, 27 Jul 2016
JBATES
SA, 227 posts
27 Jul 2016 11:29AM
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I've only been surfing a 9' performance mal for a couple of months but now when I go back to my shorty I find it so hard to adjust.
So my question is what mid length should I get that I can replace my shorty with. I'm 90 kgs if that matters. Mainly surf fuller waves but I want it to be able to handle decent waves as well

Tux
VIC, 3829 posts
27 Jul 2016 12:33PM
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Mchenry will have tons of information for you bro....

SP
10979 posts
27 Jul 2016 10:43AM
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Tux said...
Mchenry will have tons of information for you bro....


Don't you mean Cobra???
He loves a mini mal..

I'd be getting pretty much the same Dims as you have now just cut a foot and a half off the length, a bit narrower and pull the nose and tail in a touch.

There is a massive variety of midlength type shapes so depends a bit on how you surf and what you are going to surf it in.


Daneli Returns
NSW, 160 posts
27 Jul 2016 1:48PM
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Hi,

I have had a lot of success on a Clearwater 7'6 - I think it is a fun board type shape but with shorty genes - a slightly wider square tail. It is very similar to one Steve Del Rosso surfs himself just with a lot more meat in it for my fat arse. Certainly paddles better than any shorty and feels like to me it surfs like a shorty (although I'm sure anyone watching may not agree). Much more fun on a beachie than my longboard.

Cheers

Tux
VIC, 3829 posts
27 Jul 2016 1:55PM
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If you have the dough the Donald Takayama Howard Mini Special and the Firewire Seaxe both look like they would go alright... my go to mid length is 7'6 x 21 1/3 x 3 with a 15" N and 13.5" tail...very flat rocker with a concave to rolled vee bottom 2+1...very low egg shaped rail for extra speed..apologies to those that have seen this before





Macaha
QLD, 21892 posts
27 Jul 2016 2:14PM
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Mid length in action



wavemaniac
465 posts
27 Jul 2016 1:05PM
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McCoy nugget...7/0-7/4 will float 90kgs quite nicely. Pot Belly model has a flatter nose rocker.It handles knee to 1.5x overhead.If you intend surfing sucky waves then the added NR of an all rounder will suit.Custom PU or the AR in PU or Poxy.

JBATES
SA, 227 posts
27 Jul 2016 3:22PM
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Thanks for the advice. Some good options there.

imlost
QLD, 12 posts
27 Jul 2016 6:19PM
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Have a look at Fuyu habanero lots of fun

chrispy
WA, 9675 posts
28 Jul 2016 3:18AM
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The McCoy is a strange beast suited to the back foot surfer. In fact the best board mac could own would be a McCoy for that reason,someone who does not move their feet will love them.

The blokes who own them up my way struggle on the beaches unless it's clean....also they will all tell you including Geoff that you gotta ride them for q couple of years to get used to them WTF
And I am a McCoy fan...

I would be going a more takayama scorpion type shape.,way more versatile.
Most of my boards are still made so I don't struggle from going from long to short.

My beesting at 7'6 is still my most used board. Paddles super well, but it's the nice rails and the double flyer that set it apart from a mini mal. So manoeuvrable and fast. Multiple sweet spots to surf it from makes it really forgiving.

Then my 7'5 single is the most user friendly board I have. That big single makes stability a non existent word. Goes better in the crap beaches way better than I expected, but it lights up on a clean wall,the single fin is the best feeling when you surf


But my new favourite for knee to oh is my 6'6 mini Maca. Wide nose that you can easily do cheaters 5,one cross step and your on the nose,on step back and your jamming the tail. Way more versatile than the scorpion in the tail and rails,just so much fun to surf.

Or a mid length egg is always a safe and fun option

chrispy
WA, 9675 posts
28 Jul 2016 3:38AM
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chrispy said..
The McCoy is a strange beast suited to the back foot surfer. In fact the best board mac could own would be a McCoy for that reason,someone who does not move their feet will love them.

The blokes who own them up my way struggle on the beaches unless it's clean....also they will all tell you including Geoff that you gotta ride them for q couple of years to get used to them WTF
And I am a McCoy fan...

I would be going a more takayama scorpion type shape.,way more versatile.
Most of my boards are still made so I don't struggle from going from long to short.

My beesting at 7'6 is still my most used board. Paddles super well, but it's the nice rails and the double flyer that set it apart from a mini mal. So manoeuvrable and fast. Multiple sweet spots to surf it from makes it really forgiving.

Then my 7'5 single is the most user friendly board I have. That big single makes stability a non existent word. Goes better in the crap beaches way better than I expected, but it lights up on a clean wall,the single fin is the best feeling when you surf


But my new favourite for knee to oh is my 6'6 mini Maca. Wide nose that you can easily do cheaters 5,one cross step and your on the nose,on step back and your jamming the tail. Way more versatile than the scorpion in the tail and rails,just so much fun to surf.

Or a mid length egg is always a safe and fun option


i take it back,if its real sectiony waves ,the single is crap....but onshore choppy faces it eats through them

McHenry
SA, 1739 posts
28 Jul 2016 7:33AM
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chrispy said..
The McCoy is a strange beast suited to the back foot surfer. In fact the best board mac could own would be a McCoy for that reason,someone who does not move their feet will love them.

The blokes who own them up my way struggle on the beaches unless it's clean....also they will all tell you including Geoff that you gotta ride them for q couple of years to get used to them WTF
And I am a McCoy fan...

I would be going a more takayama scorpion type shape.,way more versatile.
Most of my boards are still made so I don't struggle from going from long to short.

My beesting at 7'6 is still my most used board. Paddles super well, but it's the nice rails and the double flyer that set it apart from a mini mal. So manoeuvrable and fast. Multiple sweet spots to surf it from makes it really forgiving.

Then my 7'5 single is the most user friendly board I have. That big single makes stability a non existent word. Goes better in the crap beaches way better than I expected, but it lights up on a clean wall,the single fin is the best feeling when you surf


But my new favourite for knee to oh is my 6'6 mini Maca. Wide nose that you can easily do cheaters 5,one cross step and your on the nose,on step back and your jamming the tail. Way more versatile than the scorpion in the tail and rails,just so much fun to surf.

Or a mid length egg is always a safe and fun option


Pics Chrispy?? Sounds cool

wavemaniac
465 posts
28 Jul 2016 6:18AM
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? ? ? 2 years to get used to a McCoy

Ya gotta be kidding....3-4surfs at the most

And coming down from a longboard, itll probably be sooner

chrispy
WA, 9675 posts
28 Jul 2016 6:32AM
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? ? ? 2 years to get used to a McCoy

Ya gotta be kidding....3-4surfs at the most

And coming down from a longboard, itll probably be sooner


I'm just going on what Geoff says mate....you obviously know better. I like surfing them. In saying that I have only surfed shorter ones,a 5'10 zot and a few sun 6'4 nuggets. i like you found them really easy to surf without Geoff or others telling me it takes longer to work them out.

Old kook I surf with looks good on the longboard one,because he just stands there and the board rewards him. Yet if his feet are wrong the board is a dog,same thing I found riding them. ...... But they always seem to be just lacking something to me.

McHenry
SA, 1739 posts
28 Jul 2016 8:10AM
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Everyone digs different things in surfing and that's what makes surfing so cool is surfers are spoiled with choice. In any type of board you are looking at once you start looking around you realise just how many options you have. Couple that with opinions and it quickly becomes overwhelming!!

chrispy
WA, 9675 posts
28 Jul 2016 7:11AM
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McHenry said..
Everyone digs different things in surfing and that's what makes surfing so cool is surfers are spoiled with choice. In any type of board you are looking at once you start looking around you realise just how many options you have. Couple that with opinions and it quickly becomes overwhelming!!


thats for sure

plus my opinions are based on average ability at best

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
28 Jul 2016 9:17AM
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? ? ? 2 years to get used to a McCoy


It took Cheyne Horan 4 years plus 1979-1982

McHenry
SA, 1739 posts
28 Jul 2016 8:50AM
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Ted the Kiwi said..

wavemaniac said..
? ? ? 2 years to get used to a McCoy



It took Cheyne Horan 4 years plus 1979-1982


Ouch, bit harsh

wavemaniac
465 posts
28 Jul 2016 8:19AM
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I'm just going on what Geoff says mate...

you obviously know better.....my observations and comments are from practical personal experience AND from information related to me by other McCoy riders.

i like you found them really easy to surf without Geoff or others telling me it takes longer to work them out. ....some of what GM says I personally strongly disagree with and I tell him, my opinion is they are a very forgiving surf craft.

But they always seem to be just lacking something to me......you are not Robinson Crusoe but altering the 3 glassed ons and turfing the goof fin may change the way they react for you.

With the diversity of wave riding equipment available at this point in time it maybe confusing to some people.

The McCoy stepdown when a longboard isn't suitable(imo, over waist high)presents an option to surf quite fluid lines.The shorter arcs of a nugget and the high volume, just make sense to me.

wavemaniac
465 posts
28 Jul 2016 8:28AM
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It took Cheyne Horan 4 years plus 1979-1982 ....They were the years MR won on a twinny, some of those years Cheyne was number 2 in the world which isn't bad from a board marketing point of view. The footage ive seen and the live sessions I witnessed I'd say Cheyne was reasonably used to whatever experimental design GM provided.



Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
28 Jul 2016 11:01AM
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he was second all four of those years

Sandsy1
NSW, 814 posts
28 Jul 2016 11:12AM
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Lots of good input! For mine, I have had a 6'10" x 21 1/4 x 3 1/8 McCoy nugget for over 6 Years. They are a high performance board, they really can handle size. I can jump straight off my 10' log and surf the Nugget. I have had a double ender made (7'2" x 22 1/2 x 3") as a single fin, with quad boxes, which has a flatter rocker for smaller or fuller days. I find I'm surfing it a lot more, because I tend to surf the spots that suit it more than the nugget. I weigh in at 80kg and am an old fart, so surfing is more fun these days, not survival. I don't need an adrenaline hit anymore, but if I do, I just so 'no' to my wife and then run!!!















SP
10979 posts
28 Jul 2016 10:41AM
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Heres a few links and stuff.

Good place to start is google images and just click on the ones you like..

www.google.com.au/search?q=Midlength+surfboard&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=643&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjmo4elkJXOAhXpx4MKHYGJBog4ChD8BQgGKAE

But to bee honest you could do worse then starting at the major guys websites. There are a million design and ideas...



www.boardcave.com.au/the-surfers-corner/mid-length-surfboards/


www.surfermag.com/features/alex-knost-takes-you-board-shopping/


bennettsurfboards.com/bennett/about/about-longboards/

The Mid Length Longboard.Small volume seller from 7’8” to 8’8” inclusive – can be either thruster or 2 plus 1. The mid length sized board has actually made quite a strong comeback, providing plenty of performance and relative ease of paddling, although not noted for its noseriding ability.ASSOCIATED ALTERNATIVES IN ALL BOARD DESIGNS INCLUDE:

1. Concave Nose: Once popular back in the 80’s twin fin mid length designs (early modern longboards) concaves are now virtually common features in various degrees dependent on board length.The art of riding the nose of the board is most exhilarating – the concave under the nose of board providing a cushion of water and air to maintain higher trim position in wave face while surfing on the nose. Concaves also provide added strength to nose area of board due to their curved nature.

2. Round Square Tails: Most popular tail shape, increased surface area leaving more tail area to pivot off – suited best for small to medium sized waves in standard width format / for larger waves decrease tail width. Likewise for the older surfer or the heavier surfer, we can tailor board dimensions all round to provide the surfer with the correct amount of stability for their surfing needs.

3. Area Pintails / Round Pintails: More suited for larger wave conditions, these boards are very quick in cutbacks, having reduced surface area as compared to round square tails. They tend to feel as if they are turning themselves and suffer from less drag than the round square tails.



www.goddardsurfboards.com.au/midlengths.html

vouchsurf.com/evo-2/

www.hawaiianprodesigns.com.au/Hawaiian_Pro_Designs/Welcome_-_HPD_-_Surfboards_By_Donald_Takayama.html

www.instagram.com/ryanlovelace/?hl=en

wavemaniac
465 posts
28 Jul 2016 11:15AM
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It took Cheyne Horan 4 years plus 1979-1982


WRONG !....he wasn't runner up in 1980

I said he was runner up some of those 4 years....which is accurate

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
28 Jul 2016 1:47PM
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Sorry I should have re-checked my memory with google I always recall reading that most people thought if he had changed his equipment he would have probably won one or two of those and that was the basis of my argument - as hollow as it was - as that boy / man could surf !

Creative and eccentric Australian pro surfer from Sydney's Bondi Beach; runner-up to the world championship in 1978, 1979, 1981, and 1982.

http://encyclopediaofsurfing.com/entries/horan-cheyne

surfbroker
NSW, 1488 posts
28 Jul 2016 1:55PM
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Geez Ted.

No need to apologise to WM

He know's he's always right..



But I agree with him that a Nuggett doesn't take long to work out..First one I had I loved it straight up..

I've had 6 now..( one currently on Gummy and Ebay..bargain boys) just seem to have second thoughts and try something else like Millers and Tolhurst mids..

wavemaniac
465 posts
28 Jul 2016 12:26PM
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SB, you've had 6....the same amount of points from the games the ROOTERS have won

Ive had 28(the amount of points SAINTS will get this year AND make the semis)

Rule 1 for SB, take that blue of your jersey and it might look good

Rule 2 for SB, Nicks chequebook doesn't work every year

Rule 3 for SB, don't try and match wits with WM, when you know you only got half the chance!

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
28 Jul 2016 2:45PM
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I find it funny that of all the supporters out there that one who supports the Saints would be giving the Roosters a hard time after winning 3 straight minor premierships. Yes they are having a bad year for a change - but your lot normally do every year! Shall we take a look at recent history - as we know you like your 'facts'

2013 Roosters 40 Dragons 18
2014 Roosters 36 Dragons 26
2015 Roosters 40 Dragons 28


So it would seem that 28 is about the most you could really hope for and your long suffering fans will probably celebrate at what I would think is a pretty poor performance. Over the last 3 seasons they have scored 34 more points than your lot. Joy. I am not even a Roosters supporter. Now if we were to look at the points scored differential over the same period it might make you weep some more....Roosters had +836 PD to Dragons -183. Wow - thats like 1,019 points over 3 years ! I don't think you are really in any position to be giving it out just yet


Macaha
QLD, 21892 posts
28 Jul 2016 2:47PM
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More pic's of that sky blue and white board please

wavemaniac
465 posts
28 Jul 2016 12:53PM
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3 straight MINOR premierships...hows goods that ! pales into insignificance when matched to ELEVEN straight premierships! never before never again, that's the name of the book about the GREATEST era of rugby league ever!

How ya hens laying?

Macaha
QLD, 21892 posts
28 Jul 2016 2:57PM
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wavemaniac said..
3 straight MINOR premierships...hows goods that ! pales into insignificance when matched to ELEVEN straight premierships! never before never again, that's the name of the book about the GREATEST era of rugby league ever!

How ya hens laying?


Seriously who hi jacks a mid length topic



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