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Created by SP > 9 months ago, 3 Dec 2015
SP
10979 posts
3 Dec 2015 4:56PM
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So the question is?

When you get a new board how many times do you surf it before you decide if it is a good one or going?

I read somewhere once it should be about 5 surfs?

I reckon my quickest was 2 surfs.

Lacey and Mac, obviously you are excused from this thread.

Macaha
QLD, 21900 posts
3 Dec 2015 7:01PM
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laceys lane
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3 Dec 2015 7:26PM
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climber
NSW, 1125 posts
3 Dec 2015 8:39PM
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SP said..
So the question is?

When you get a new board how many times do you surf it before you decide if it is a good one or going?

I read somewhere once it should be about 5 surfs?

I reckon my quickest was 2 surfs.

Lacey and Mac, obviously you are excused from this thread.


Ohhhhhh..so you are supossed to surf it THEN decide....... got it....thanks

chrispy
WA, 9675 posts
3 Dec 2015 5:39PM
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Never had a time limit on that question....until I really thought about it. I would say half a dozen surfs generally gives me a fair idea if I like it or not.

I have one that I have kept for a while that I hated....I really like it now.

I won't give a board review until I have surfed it about 30-40 times though

Macaha
QLD, 21900 posts
3 Dec 2015 7:42PM
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chrispy said..
Never had a time limit on that question....until I really thought about it. I would say half a dozen surfs generally gives me a fair idea if I like it or not.

I have one that I have kept for a while that I hated....I really like it now.

I won't give a board review until I have surfed it about 30-40 times though


One or two surfs max,then you should know.


Chrispy havent seen a review from you so get surfing those boards,hang on that would take years you have a thousand

MickPC
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3 Dec 2015 5:46PM
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Depends on conditions...you can't surf a board a sh1tload of times in the wrong conditions & then decide its not a keeper...or you can & others can benefit

laceys lane
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3 Dec 2015 7:59PM
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chrispy said..
Never had a time limit on that question....until I really thought about it. I would say half a dozen surfs generally gives me a fair idea if I like it or not.

I have one that I have kept for a while that I hated....I really like it now.

I won't give a board review until I have surfed it about 30-40 times though



30 to 40 surfs!!!!!!!!. f33k, that's when I get a new shortboard no matter how good it is/was





Campbell bros twinnie I had I hopes on- 3 waves- gave it back

smh
NSW, 7269 posts
3 Dec 2015 9:17PM
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I think you get a pretty good idea wether you like it or not after a few surfs. Depends on conditions I guess. Had a few boards that I haven't liked and a few standouts .

thedrip
WA, 2354 posts
3 Dec 2015 6:27PM
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Varies I guess. With my boards I have had some I thought were alright, but then decided weren't, while with others it has taken some dialling in of fins to get them working properly but once done its all sweet. One of my channel bottoms was fussy on fins, but is a great board, and my most recent fish thing needed a bit of work to figure out I liked it as a quad with big fins.

So 4-6 sounds about right, but I agree conditions need to suit the board, and new boards need a chance in a variety of conditions (one trick ponies are a bit finicky).

For longboards, no idea to be honest. I have only surfed two boards over 9' and their designs were so different they shouldn't really be compared. They may have both been dogs but I wouldn't know. The HP one I surfed struck me as a little weird.

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
3 Dec 2015 9:28PM
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I have one that I have kept for a while that I hated....I really like it now.



I have one that I kept for a while and still hate it. Should have got rid of that thing after its first surf. Massive error of judgement. At the time it was the most expensive board I had purchased and wanted to give it a bit more time. 3rd surf it gets a nice ding. I take it to Indo a few years back - thinking it should goo sweet in some decent waves. It fails to impress. It gets banged up after some clown ditches a board in front of me as I bottom turn and throws it towards me (away from him - thanks ) and after that repair its value has reduced my a massive amount. Its just been an absolute pig of a board. Now its a board I lend to others and never use. Wasted to many good waves on it.

I used to give the ladies three goes. First time you could lay a poor performance down to nerves, too pi55ed etc and maybe a bit of leeway on the second attempt. But three times has always been the max. Sometimes things are just never going to go in the direction of improvement that you would like to see. I feel the same about my boards. Never had a bad board from Firewire so I am happy to keep buying them. I could list you 3 other manufactures that I would never touch again - but will not name them here.

3 surfs max with one being in great conditions is enough for me. And I am sticking to this going forward. I have moved a few boards on after one or two surfs and never regretted it. Only had one bad board the last 4 years. And thats the pig that I still sadly own - shame on me

DARTH
WA, 3028 posts
3 Dec 2015 6:30PM
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Varies I guess. With my boards I have had some I thought were alright, but then decided weren't, while with others it has taken some dialling in of fins to get them working properly but once done its all sweet. One of my channel bottoms was fussy on fins, but is a great board, and my most recent fish thing needed a bit of work to figure out I liked it as a quad with big fins.

So 4-6 sounds about right, but I agree conditions need to suit the board, and new boards need a chance in a variety of conditions (one trick ponies are a bit finicky).

For longboards, no idea to be honest. I have only surfed two boards over 9' and their designs were so different they shouldn't really be compared. They may have both been dogs but I wouldn't know. The HP one I surfed struck me as a little weird.


What fins did you end up using?

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
3 Dec 2015 8:38PM
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Ted the Kiwi said..

chrispy said..

I have one that I have kept for a while that I hated....I really like it now.




I have one that I kept for a while and still hate it. Should have got rid of that thing after its first surf. Massive error of judgement. At the time it was the most expensive board I had purchased and wanted to give it a bit more time. 3rd surf it gets a nice ding. I take it to Indo a few years back - thinking it should goo sweet in some decent waves. It fails to impress. It gets banged up after some clown ditches a board in front of me as I bottom turn and throws it towards me (away from him - thanks ) and after that repair its value has reduced my a massive amount. Its just been an absolute pig of a board. Now its a board I lend to others and never use. Wasted to many good waves on it.

I used to give the ladies three goes. First time you could lay a poor performance down to nerves, too pi55ed etc and maybe a bit of leeway on the second attempt. But three times has always been the max. Sometimes things are just never going to go in the direction of improvement that you would like to see. I feel the same about my boards. Never had a bad board from Firewire so I am happy to keep buying them. I could list you 3 other manufactures that I would never touch again - but will not name them here.

3 surfs max with one being in great conditions is enough for me. And I am sticking to this going forward. I have moved a few boards on after one or two surfs and never regretted it. Only had one bad board the last 4 years. And thats the pig that I still sadly own - shame on me


I was going to say ted I had boards I though where good lose there appeal, but cant say Ive had a bad board come good.

some boards you just know will be better with different fins.

same as ive been wrong about feel good under the arm boards, but never wrong about feel bad under the arm boards

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
4 Dec 2015 12:13AM
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I agree LL. The Nano was a board I struggled with initially. It was a good performer but not great. I wondered what all the fuss was about. You gave me some great fin advice and it became the best all rounder board I have ever owned. That thing was unreal in its time. I almost cried when it came up in pieces that morning. The second to last wave I had on it that session was one of the best waves I have ever had. So it will live long in my memory. Hope the Evo performs.

thedrip
WA, 2354 posts
3 Dec 2015 9:34PM
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Ted, why didn't you just replace the Nano? Sounds like it worked really well for you.



Darth, I tried it as a thruster with FCS Performers in medium size. It sort of wiggled around and it lacked drive in really good waves (4-5 walls and barrels) so I immediately thought it was underfinned. I'm a pretty big guy - 6'2" and 91kgs - so I have had that problem occassionally before (an Al Bean comes to mind). That was in the morning. Straight back to Yahoo and they swapped the fins for the same fin in large style. In the afternoon I surfed some dodgy fat burgers (3-4') but the board felt much better, but a little slow out on the flats. The next morning I went to a really fast ledging barrel and the board went way better. Drove down the line, handled the tube really well, and, when I didn't go looking for a barrel, it turned nicely in the pocket. I felt it still wasn't quite dialed in and two weeks later I got the rear fins and finally the board was nailed. Bare in mind I am not a big fan of quad set ups so kudos to me for sticking at it and being flexible.

Now I think the shape is amazingly versatile (Yahoo Wahoo). I have surfed it in thigh to chest high Bears and loved it and 4-6foot Dolphins, Tombies and Centers and loved it. So it's a very flexible little beasty. In the solid waves it was amazingly fast with really long carving turns, yet tight and whippy in the pocket when I was doing my tube stall (that's the board I was on when I got bounced and dragged across and urchin infested nigger head at Dolphins). At tiny Bears I was doing all sort of funky small waves slides I thought had passed me by.

It was the board I bought instead of a Nano, Vader or Vanguard in the middle of the year. I couldn't get one in the size I wanted and there were no test boards available anywhere near those sizes anyway.

So, like lacey said above, I knew from the outset it was fins and not the board, so that's a bit different from jumping on a board and going, "Oh god no!" I have done that a lot in single concave boards.

surfbroker
NSW, 1488 posts
4 Dec 2015 7:22AM
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That's it Dripper..fins make a lot of difference...the std one you generally get with a new board are basic..

I have had a board now for 5 years...(Does that get me excommunicated from here )...and didn't like it...and went through 4 sets of fins as I knew the board was good..and I had talent (haha) so it had to be the fins and found a quad set that make the board sooooo much better

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
4 Dec 2015 6:42AM
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Sèe mac's a little different.

He uses the same fins but changes the boards.


Hahahaha

Tux
VIC, 3829 posts
4 Dec 2015 8:18AM
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There all keeper's (I hope my wife doesn't read this)

thedrip
WA, 2354 posts
4 Dec 2015 7:39AM
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Tux said...
There all keeper's (I hope my wife doesn't read this)


We should start a Twelve Step Fellowship, Tux.

"My name is thedrip and I am a collector."

Tux
VIC, 3829 posts
4 Dec 2015 10:50AM
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Tux said...
There all keeper's (I hope my wife doesn't read this)



We should start a Twelve Step Fellowship, Tux.

"My name is thedrip and I am a collector."


I like it..others in my house would call it hoarding but what would they know

thedrip
WA, 2354 posts
4 Dec 2015 8:17AM
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They know nothing.

In my house I can point to a strange number of vases, unfinished craft projects and a disturbing number of platters. She isn't allowed any moral high ground.

There need be no mention of the price disparity between op-shop vases and a surfboard.

MickPC
8266 posts
4 Dec 2015 9:45AM
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My wife collects containers to put her containers in

Surf69
WA, 883 posts
4 Dec 2015 2:02PM
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SP said..
So the question is?

When you get a new board how many times do you surf it before you decide if it is a good one or going?

I read somewhere once it should be about 5 surfs?

I reckon my quickest was 2 surfs.

Lacey and Mac, obviously you are excused from this thread.


Wow...good question, I'd reckon you could decide in a couple of surfs if those surfs were in perfect conditions your board was intended for?
My New McT Involvement I've found to have a couple of different personalities. First ever surf on it was super impressive, but a couple since in slight different conditions have proven that there's a bit of effort and technique required. Love it to death though, wouldnot change it for anything but the very first surf to the second and third...very different.

Macaha
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4 Dec 2015 4:06PM
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Surf69 said..

SP said..
So the question is?

When you get a new board how many times do you surf it before you decide if it is a good one or going?

I read somewhere once it should be about 5 surfs?

I reckon my quickest was 2 surfs.

Lacey and Mac, obviously you are excused from this thread.



Wow...good question, I'd reckon you could decide in a couple of surfs if those surfs were in perfect conditions your board was intended for?
My New McT Involvement I've found to have a couple of different personalities. First ever surf on it was super impressive, but a couple since in slight different conditions have proven that there's a bit of effort and technique required. Love it to death though, wouldnot change it for anything but the very first surf to the second and third...very different.


Involvement you got to slow it all down,they are old school best surfed old school,go figure

Surf69
WA, 883 posts
4 Dec 2015 2:21PM
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Macaha said..

Surf69 said..


SP said..
So the question is?

When you get a new board how many times do you surf it before you decide if it is a good one or going?

I read somewhere once it should be about 5 surfs?

I reckon my quickest was 2 surfs.

Lacey and Mac, obviously you are excused from this thread.




Wow...good question, I'd reckon you could decide in a couple of surfs if those surfs were in perfect conditions your board was intended for?
My New McT Involvement I've found to have a couple of different personalities. First ever surf on it was super impressive, but a couple since in slight different conditions have proven that there's a bit of effort and technique required. Love it to death though, wouldnot change it for anything but the very first surf to the second and third...very different.



Involvement you got to slow it all down,they are old school best surfed old school,go figure


Yep, all day long, and that's exactly why I got it and love it.

Macaha
QLD, 21900 posts
4 Dec 2015 4:23PM
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Sweet thats one of two boards mct will not sell me,can you believe it
Oh the other is the dirt nap

Surf69
WA, 883 posts
4 Dec 2015 2:38PM
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Macaha said..
Sweet thats one of two boards mct will not sell me,can you believe it
Oh the other is the dirt nap


Makes sense, theyre both made to be old school, clearly you throw yours around a bit if you've been blacklisted from those two LOL

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
4 Dec 2015 4:50PM
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Macaha said...
Sweet thats one of two boards mct will not sell me,can you believe it
Oh the other is the dirt nap


What about the other 100

SP
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4 Dec 2015 3:01PM
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Surf69 said...
SP said..
So the question is?

When you get a new board how many times do you surf it before you decide if it is a good one or going?

I read somewhere once it should be about 5 surfs?

I reckon my quickest was 2 surfs.

Lacey and Mac, obviously you are excused from this thread.


Wow...good question, I'd reckon you could decide in a couple of surfs if those surfs were in perfect conditions your board was intended for?
My New McT Involvement I've found to have a couple of different personalities. First ever surf on it was super impressive, but a couple since in slight different conditions have proven that there's a bit of effort and technique required. Love it to death though, wouldnot change it for anything but the very first surf to the second and third...very different.


I think you have kinda nailed it as others have said, some just seem worth persevering with and some you know are dogs straight away.

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
5 Dec 2015 4:33PM
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One surf and new one is a keeper. After my first turn off the bottom I knew it was all good. It just flew out of the turn Stoked.

thePup
13831 posts
5 Dec 2015 4:34PM
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Beauty mate



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