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Why 9'1" ?

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Created by GPA > 9 months ago, 20 Jan 2013
GPA
WA, 2520 posts
20 Jan 2013 5:23PM
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Ok, so the prevailing view is that anything 6'10" and under is a short board, with 7'0" to 8'0" being a mid-size, and longboard being anything bigger than 8'0" - with the purists saying 9'1" and above is a true LB.

Just wondered how 9'1" became the standard 'starting' LB size? Is it because the blanks start at 9'2" ??

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
20 Jan 2013 8:36PM
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It might have been from the 60's??? I understand that boards have always had to measure up to a 9'0 measuring stick, and a 9'1 usually covers 9'0... Especially if you add a tail block or a nose block!

SP
10979 posts
20 Jan 2013 5:41PM
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History mainly, Sam was 9'2 and then pretty much boards went down from there so when guys started riding LBs again the went to where they stopped 9 footish.

And most comps and even the AsP even says 9'0 and greater then about 22" for there comps so that backed it up I guess.

But under 9 ft is not a LB IMO. And standard LB is greater than 9'0 wider than 22 and a nose bigger than 16, rounded not pointy.


Edit... I'll add
I never understood the 9'1 either... Still don't

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
20 Jan 2013 8:42PM
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9'0 to 9'6 was a very popular length back in the 60's too... Surfing had been going for long enough for people to realise that 10'0 was just a little bit too big for fit strong & young 22 year old males...

But 10'0 can be about right at the age of 50 to 60! Or for more solid muscly guys...

Bob McTavish was always a little bit smaller than average, and he shaped a few shorter boards for himself in those early days... and then George Greenough showed them what could be done on a 4'6 kneeboard with a refined marlin fin... and the rest is history really!!

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
20 Jan 2013 8:43PM
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SP said...
History mainly, Sam was 9'2 and then pretty much boards went down from there so when guys started riding LBs again the went to where they stopped 9 footish.

And most comps and even the AsP even says 9'0 and greater then about 22" for there comps so that backed it up I guess.

But under 9 ft is not a LB IMO. And standard LB is greater than 9'0 wider than 22 and a nose bigger than 16, rounded not pointy.



Rounded pointy noses are OK too though!


laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
20 Jan 2013 7:47PM
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9'1 matches the age of the average long boarder- 91 years old.

that's why mac's boards are getting longer


couldn't be anything else

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
20 Jan 2013 8:58PM
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I don't think you blank boards by length or width alone...

But generally 7-9 is Midlength... Under or over is short or long...

But an 8'2 McTavish Involvement is a Longboard in my book...
But an 8'0 Bobsled is a Midlegth...
An 8'1 Ball is a midlength meeting a Longboard... *

But one this is for certain, Chrispy's Ball had heavier concaves than average!



* this is an eightball... http://www.mctavish.com.au/surfboard/eightball
McTavish call it a midlength.

SP
10979 posts
20 Jan 2013 5:58PM
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Simondo said...
SP said...
History mainly, Sam was 9'2 and then pretty much boards went down from there so when guys started riding LBs again the went to where they stopped 9 footish.

And most comps and even the AsP even says 9'0 and greater then about 22" for there comps so that backed it up I guess.

But under 9 ft is not a LB IMO. And standard LB is greater than 9'0 wider than 22 and a nose bigger than 16, rounded not pointy.



Rounded pointy noses are OK too though!





If I had to find a photo of a LB that one would do the job....

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
20 Jan 2013 9:01PM
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SP, here's the other side... looks just as sexy!



SP
10979 posts
20 Jan 2013 6:01PM
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Simondo said...
I don't think you blank boards by length or width alone...

But generally 7-9 is Midlength... Under or over is short or long...

But an 8'2 McTavish Involvement is a Longboard in my book...
But an 8'0 Bobsled is a Midlegth...
An 8'1 Ball is a midlength meeting a Longboard... *

But one this is for certain, Chrispy's Ball had heavier concaves than average!



* this is an eightball... http://www.mctavish.com.au/surfboard/eightball
McTavish call it a midlength.


^^^


I reckon at a certain point you lose the glide of a 9ft plus board.. Therefore without the glide it ain't a LB..


62mac
WA, 24860 posts
20 Jan 2013 6:02PM
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Because only real men can handle a 9.1.


9 foot and over for any comp,they made 9.1's way back because a guy got pulled up for surfing a comp on a 8.11 the shaper fked up,fact.

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
20 Jan 2013 9:04PM
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SP, here's a photo of a Fish.
Were you expecting a fish surfboard!?



62mac
WA, 24860 posts
20 Jan 2013 6:05PM
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about the only good thing in that photo is the Tee

SP
10979 posts
20 Jan 2013 6:07PM
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Simondo said...
SP, here's a photo of a Fish.
Were you expecting a fish surfboard!?






Hahah..

But your holding it wrong
rule 101 of fish photos is hold them up and way out in front of you... Makes it look bigger

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
20 Jan 2013 9:07PM
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Funny Mac! But they are Bobby Diamond Boardies... You like them too!
Good one SP!


More fish!

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
20 Jan 2013 6:11PM
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funny thing is I'm wearing the same as you in the pic but red and black boardies and white mct tee,scary

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
20 Jan 2013 8:16PM
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i wonder what 'bob' is wearing right now

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
20 Jan 2013 6:20PM
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laceys lane said...
i wonder what 'bob' is wearing right now


slippers mate

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
20 Jan 2013 8:24PM
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62mac said...
laceys lane said...
i wonder what 'bob' is wearing right now


slippers mate


Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
20 Jan 2013 9:24PM
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laceys lane said...
i wonder what 'bob' is wearing right now




Mac too funny!

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
20 Jan 2013 9:25PM
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You fellas are terrible.....get a room

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
20 Jan 2013 9:26PM
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62mac said...
funny thing is I'm wearing the same as you in the pic but red and black boardies and white mct tee,scary


Next time we surf, we've gotta do matching Tee's & Boardies, but in different colours, and roughly matching boards... plus get a photo!

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
20 Jan 2013 8:34PM
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Simondo said...
62mac said...
funny thing is I'm wearing the same as you in the pic but red and black boardies and white mct tee,scary


Next time we surf, we've gotta do matching Tee's & Boardies, but in different colours, and roughly matching boards... plus get a photo!



here you go



and with that i take my leave before i get lynched
good night all

thePup
13831 posts
20 Jan 2013 6:37PM
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laceys lane said...
Simondo said...
62mac said...
funny thing is I'm wearing the same as you in the pic but red and black boardies and white mct tee,scary


Next time we surf, we've gotta do matching Tee's & Boardies, but in different colours, and roughly matching boards... plus get a photo!



here you go




splutter

Simondo
VIC, 8020 posts
20 Jan 2013 9:50PM
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kadilak
QLD, 605 posts
20 Jan 2013 9:54PM
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SP said...


^^^


I reckon at a certain point you lose the glide of a 9ft plus board.. Therefore without the glide it ain't a LB..





+1 SP

Having started on a Mid length, then moving to a LB, "glide" is the word.

I might be right off track (because I am still such a novice) but the 8' fish would seem to climb up the wave as the wave catches up to you paddling your ar$e off, then take off as it descends down the wave. The UFO is much smoother getting on the wave, seems to transition more smoothly.

Maybe it's rocker, maybe the narrower tail, or the length, or the way the back end sits lower in the water. DGMW, I loved the fish too.

My 6'9 fish is a completely different kettle of fish. I am surprised I get any rides on that (takes me too long to jump to my feet), but sometimes it works.

OG SUP
VIC, 3516 posts
21 Jan 2013 2:22PM
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Seeing I have repented and sold all of my surf sups am I allowed in the longboard room?

When you want glide there is only one board and it aint a Mc T.

Foiled rails to fool the water into thinking the boards are thin, subtle concave in the nose for nose rides, three fin options to allow broad range tuning for conditions and advanced (forward) vee so you don't have to be on the tail to turn. This surfboard is fast, fast, fast.

12'0" x 26.25" x 4.25"
2+1
Squash Tail
Tuflite



Phill

62mac
WA, 24860 posts
21 Jan 2013 11:30AM
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Drop your pic and the sup,just come in as OG,I'll ask LL later if your ok!

BigSpazz
NSW, 946 posts
21 Jan 2013 3:02PM
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OG SUP said...
Seeing I have repented and sold all of my surf sups am I allowed in the longboard room?

When you want glide there is only one board and it aint a Mc T.

Foiled rails to fool the water into thinking the boards are thin, subtle concave in the nose for nose rides, three fin options to allow broad range tuning for conditions and advanced (forward) vee so you don't have to be on the tail to turn. This surfboard is fast, fast, fast.

12'0" x 26.25" x 4.25"
2+1
Squash Tail
Tuflite



Phill




what about a 12ft mctavish ?

Ted the Kiwi
NSW, 14256 posts
21 Jan 2013 3:27PM
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Welcome OG - what about a nice thick and heavy PU board like Big Spaz rides - those things have more glide than a glider itself! Although they are not much fun to walk down to the beach with

thePup
13831 posts
21 Jan 2013 12:51PM
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OG SUP said...
Seeing I have repented and sold all of my surf sups am I allowed in the longboard room?

When you want glide there is only one board and it aint a Mc T.

Foiled rails to fool the water into thinking the boards are thin, subtle concave in the nose for nose rides, three fin options to allow broad range tuning for conditions and advanced (forward) vee so you don't have to be on the tail to turn. This surfboard is fast, fast, fast.

12'0" x 26.25" x 4.25"
2+1
Squash Tail
Tuflite



Phill



I've just said my four & a half Hail Mary's - geez that's a lotta lotta board .... twenty six and a quarter ...... four and a quarter



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