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The trend of "Neil Pryde" logos on boards must have been mimicry of the boards shown in the NP videos Moving Target, Instant Replay, Fast Forward and Rigmarole. I wonder how many license fees were paid by the board makers to Neil Pryde for this usage ? Probably zero.
Before I got it, It was a sponsored riders board - some Aussie chick, can't remember her name 
Memories..1990 Nobby's on my Windaction custom slalom? Even colour co ordinated booties..
Grr.. I thought my colour idea was a one off..
The red and yellow zigzag.. Why don't modern designs have colours like these?
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Thats an old pic of me and MD at SWQ mag in Brookvale. Back in the day, funny as.
Hey Larko, I remember that board of yours. Can you recall my two beauties. I wish I still had the little 11inch one in my hand. It's gotta be out there somewhere!!?
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Thats an old pic of me and MD at SWQ mag in Brookvale. Back in the day, funny as.
Hey Larko, I remember that board of yours. Can you recall my two beauties. I wish I still had the little 11inch one in my hand. It's gotta be out there somewhere!!?
Cripes those things look like weapons! One advantage of modern boards is that their rounded noses aren't as 'dangerous" as these..
I had a stack with someone back in the 90s when there used to be crowds at Valentine....Luckily I only got his board.
Hey D, I remember the yellow and white Performance board. Was that when we used to speed sail at Kurnell back in the day??
Great spot back then with dead flat water in a southerly??
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Hey D, I remember the yellow and white Performance board. Was that when we used to speed sail at Kurnell back in the day??
Great spot back then with dead flat water in a southerly??
Yeah that big board was the one I used at Kurnell, loved it. I only sailed with you guys a few times at Kurnell, once at Jimmy's Beach and another time at Marmong Pt in Jan 88 or thereabouts. That little board only ever got used in Lake Illawarra.
My collector Wind Action. Picked it up never used a couple of years ago to put on the garage wall. I think about 1995. Have tried it a few times to see how it goes. Very different from moderm boards but great fun.
Select to expand quoteGoofyRyder-2206 said..
Pulled this out of the shed after seeing a forecast for a big westerly coming... got it with a bunch of old gear way back when i started windsurfing 3 years ago, figured I wouldn't be able to sail it then, forgot about it for a while and decided to give it a crack! :D Just curious if anyone knows more about these boards - or the fancy looking fin sticking out of it :D
Good to meet you today, hope you bring it to Wello tomorrow for a run. Make sure you bring that bigger board just in case the wind changes it's mind 
Select to expand quoteGoofyRyder-2206 said..
Pulled this out of the shed after seeing a forecast for a big westerly coming... got it with a bunch of old gear way back when i started windsurfing 3 years ago, figured I wouldn't be able to sail it then, forgot about it for a while and decided to give it a crack! :D Just curious if anyone knows more about these boards - or the fancy looking fin sticking out of it :D
I asked my brother Martin, who shaped over 400 boards at Wind Action, he said he may have shaped it. He said he did mostly slalom and Bill did mostly wave boards. When Mike Perry went to USA for extended leave and the orders kept coming in, Martin started shaping and then Bill took it up, shaping his own boards and then shop boards as well.
I remember sailing one of Martin's speed boards at Boyne River, they liked to go fast in a straight line, but would do great big wide fast carving gybes - good fun in the right conditions!
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Check out those loafers and white socks, plus the knee tear in your jeans, on point there Jetters!
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Check out those loafers and white socks, plus the knee tear in your jeans, on point there Jetters!
Always a man of style, of course . Don't forget the Raybans and Arran knit jumper. I'm sure there were 2 weeks in mid 1989 where that was THE LOOK!! Soon to be replaced by no socks!!
Dare you to post a 1989 Dezza in fluoro oversized tracksuit top 
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My collector Wind Action. Picked it up never used a couple of years ago to put on the garage wall. I think about 1995. Have tried it a few times to see how it goes. Very different from moderm boards but great fun.
Cripes the mast tracks were a long way forward!
Wow. I don't windsurf but I remember vividly seeing those magazine adverts in my brothers mags when I was a kid. I used to think how cool they looked. Man the 80's was gay
Ready to take out of retirement .
Back strap moved forward 6 cm , nice wide stance for oafy me front straps . I thought this would be OK because the boards rocker is so flat so far forward and is quite a long board .
New deck pads and straps and sugar coating.
The last time I rode a board this narrow was about thirty years ago and thirty kg lighter . ( 57 cm )
Can someone tell me the biggest size sail i could use on this thing , im presuming its not a 9.4 in 15 kts ???
Was a old tuttle , now a butt ugly 34cm US box.
Select to expand quotegregwed said..
My collector Wind Action. Picked it up never used a couple of years ago to put on the garage wall. I think about 1995. Have tried it a few times to see how it goes. Very different from moderm boards but great fun.
i have the same board ,but top and bottom is carbon.they are very fast up wind and down wind,i have used it with a 7.5 ezzy lion which balances nice.if you put to big a fin in they will roll over,you really have to keep your feet back when gybing other wise the rail will catch and it will roll over, but once you get use to that they gybe well.mast track is further back than older boards so modern sails work good on it.in rougth water they are faster than a modern board as you can keep the power on.love sailing mine but it is a sinker for me now .let us no how you go with it
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Ready to take out of retirement .
Back strap moved forward 6 cm , nice wide stance for oafy me front straps . I thought this would be OK because the boards rocker is so flat so far forward and is quite a long board .
New deck pads and straps and sugar coating.
The last time I rode a board this narrow was about thirty years ago and thirty kg lighter . ( 57 cm )
Can someone tell me the biggest size sail i could use on this thing , im presuming its not a 9.4 in 15 kts ???
Was a old tuttle , now a butt ugly 34cm US box.
Wow ! Great job..
Select to expand quoteCoops052 said..GoofyRyder-2206 said..
Pulled this out of the shed after seeing a forecast for a big westerly coming... got it with a bunch of old gear way back when i started windsurfing 3 years ago, figured I wouldn't be able to sail it then, forgot about it for a while and decided to give it a crack! :D Just curious if anyone knows more about these boards - or the fancy looking fin sticking out of it :D
I asked my brother Martin, who shaped over 400 boards at Wind Action, he said he may have shaped it. He said he did mostly slalom and Bill did mostly wave boards. When Mike Perry went to USA for extended leave and the orders kept coming in, Martin started shaping and then Bill took it up, shaping his own boards and then shop boards as well.
I remember sailing one of Martin's speed boards at Boyne River, they liked to go fast in a straight line, but would do great big wide fast carving gybes - good fun in the right conditions!
Crikey that's awesome!
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Ready to take out of retirement .
Back strap moved forward 6 cm , nice wide stance for oafy me front straps . I thought this would be OK because the boards rocker is so flat so far forward and is quite a long board .
New deck pads and straps and sugar coating.
The last time I rode a board this narrow was about thirty years ago and thirty kg lighter . ( 57 cm )
Can someone tell me the biggest size sail i could use on this thing , im presuming its not a 9.4 in 15 kts ???
Was a old tuttle , now a butt ugly 34cm US box.
The fin looks cool as do the deck modifications- great work. Perhaps a 7.5 m2 as per Grich62 given the 34 cm fin.
Finbox-Where is the finbox in relation to the straps ? I would be interested to hear about your feelings after sailing the board as I would have expected the original straps were in a good position relative to the fin but I guess you will have enough age enhanced "leverage" at the back end to make the engine room of the tail work. You might find the wetted surface of the board has increased by using footstraps further forward and this might be an issue and the back straps as originally designed would unwet the planing surface.
Mast track-The board likely has a mast track/base forward from boards of today. The board is great and it is "old school" and based upon a "high aspect" sail of the late 80s/early 90s. That means the mast track was placed with this in mind. High Aspect sails means taller with a shorter boom. Modern sails are shorter with longer booms. You may or may not align properly on the board with modern sails.
Using a new sail I would have used high booms for the mast forward position to address the modern sails. That could be done even by slightly extending up the mast extension up a bit to do so. In this way set it up to adjust the rig geometry for the original further aft straps with modern sails given the wide point of the board and maximum volume are further forward than it is today.
That may not be an issue and you might find it all works fine as you have modified it.
Select to expand quoteRichardG said..Imax1 said..
Ready to take out of retirement .
Back strap moved forward 6 cm , nice wide stance for oafy me front straps . I thought this would be OK because the boards rocker is so flat so far forward and is quite a long board .
New deck pads and straps and sugar coating.
The last time I rode a board this narrow was about thirty years ago and thirty kg lighter . ( 57 cm )
Can someone tell me the biggest size sail i could use on this thing , im presuming its not a 9.4 in 15 kts ???
Was a old tuttle , now a butt ugly 34cm US box.
The fin looks cool as does the deck modifications. Perhaps a 7.5 m2 as per Grich62. Where is the finbox in relation to the straps ? I would be interested to hear about your feelings after sailing the board as I would have expected the original straps were in a good position relative to the fin but I guess you will have enough age enhanced "leverage" at the back end to make the engine room of the tail work.
Yeah , the tail is quite thin and pinny. The rest of the board is 10 cm thick and boxy . It's got a long finbox . As a guesstimate I'd say front of finbox middle of the new back strap . Looks good to me.
Original straps position for a 80 kg pilot with a old hang off the back sail seems like a good position .
Im using new sail and I'm fat 
7.5 ish is around 20 to 25 kts for me . That's kinda what I'm thinking.
If it's a real solid 25 + I'm thinking 6.5 ?
Select to expand quoteImax1 said..RichardG said..Imax1 said..
Ready to take out of retirement .
Back strap moved forward 6 cm , nice wide stance for oafy me front straps . I thought this would be OK because the boards rocker is so flat so far forward and is quite a long board .
New deck pads and straps and sugar coating.
The last time I rode a board this narrow was about thirty years ago and thirty kg lighter . ( 57 cm )
Can someone tell me the biggest size sail i could use on this thing , im presuming its not a 9.4 in 15 kts ???
Was a old tuttle , now a butt ugly 34cm US box.
The fin looks cool as does the deck modifications. Perhaps a 7.5 m2 as per Grich62. Where is the finbox in relation to the straps ? I would be interested to hear about your feelings after sailing the board as I would have expected the original straps were in a good position relative to the fin but I guess you will have enough age enhanced "leverage" at the back end to make the engine room of the tail work.
Yeah , the tail is quite thin and pinny. The rest of the board is 10 cm thick and boxy . It's got a long finbox . As a guesstimate I'd say front of finbox middle of the new back strap . Looks good to me.
Original straps position for a 80 kg pilot with a old hang off the back sail seems like a good position .
Im using new sail and I'm fat
7.5 ish is around 20 to 25 kts for me . That's kinda what I'm thinking.
If it's a real solid 25 + I'm thinking 6.5 ?
I think originally it would have worked well with 4.5- 6.5 m2 sails. Now with modern sails they are lower aspect and leech twist off. Hence yes 5.5 to 7.5 as you propose as modern sails have a wider range better top end but not as good low end as older sails.
I added the following to my original comment for what it is worth:
"You might find the wetted surface of the board has increased by using footstraps further forward and this might be an issue and the back straps as originally designed would unwet the planing surface.
Mast track-The board likely has a mast track/base forward from boards of today. The board is great and it is "old school" and based upon a "high aspect" sail of the late 80s/early 90s. That means the mast track was placed with this in mind. High Aspect sails means taller with a shorter boom. Modern sails are shorter with longer booms. You may or may not align properly on the board with modern sails.
Using a new sail I would have used high booms for the mast forward position to address the modern sails. That could be done even by slightly extending up the mast extension up a bit to do so. In this way set it up to adjust the rig geometry for the original further aft straps with modern sails given the wide point of the board and maximum volume are further forward than it is today.
That may not be an issue and you might find it all works fine as you have modified it."
Good luck Imax1 you have shown incredible talent and craftsmanship in your work to date.
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Memories..1990 Nobby's on my Windaction custom slalom? Even colour co ordinated booties..
That pic is a great memory .
I can't do that board on head walk thing now .
I used to do it up wind , down wind , cross wind . It was easy .
I don't do now , does anyone do it now ? I have not seen it in 20 years .
Is it because our head would go through a modern sail or are the sail dynamics different ??
Select to expand quoteRichardG said..Imax1 said..RichardG said..Imax1 said..
Ready to take out of retirement .
Back strap moved forward 6 cm , nice wide stance for oafy me front straps . I thought this would be OK because the boards rocker is so flat so far forward and is quite a long board .
New deck pads and straps and sugar coating.
The last time I rode a board this narrow was about thirty years ago and thirty kg lighter . ( 57 cm )
Can someone tell me the biggest size sail i could use on this thing , im presuming its not a 9.4 in 15 kts ???
Was a old tuttle , now a butt ugly 34cm US box.
The fin looks cool as does the deck modifications. Perhaps a 7.5 m2 as per Grich62. Where is the finbox in relation to the straps ? I would be interested to hear about your feelings after sailing the board as I would have expected the original straps were in a good position relative to the fin but I guess you will have enough age enhanced "leverage" at the back end to make the engine room of the tail work.
Yeah , the tail is quite thin and pinny. The rest of the board is 10 cm thick and boxy . It's got a long finbox . As a guesstimate I'd say front of finbox middle of the new back strap . Looks good to me.
Original straps position for a 80 kg pilot with a old hang off the back sail seems like a good position .
Im using new sail and I'm fat
7.5 ish is around 20 to 25 kts for me . That's kinda what I'm thinking.
If it's a real solid 25 + I'm thinking 6.5 ?
I think originally it would have worked well with 4.5- 6.5 m2 sails. Now with modern sails they are lower aspect and leech twist off. Hence yes 5.5 to 7.5 as you propose as modern sails have a wider range better top end but not as good low end as older sails.
I added the following to my original comment for what it is worth:
"You might find the wetted surface of the board has increased by using footstraps further forward and this might be an issue and the back straps as originally designed would unwet the planing surface.
Mast track-The board likely has a mast track/base forward from boards of today. The board is great and it is "old school" and based upon a "high aspect" sail of the late 80s/early 90s. That means the mast track was placed with this in mind. High Aspect sails means taller with a shorter boom. Modern sails are shorter with longer booms. You may or may not align properly on the board with modern sails.
Using a new sail I would have used high booms for the mast forward position to address the modern sails. That could be done even by slightly extending up the mast extension up a bit to do so. In this way set it up to adjust the rig geometry for the original further aft straps with modern sails given the wide point of the board and maximum volume are further forward than it is today.
That may not be an issue and you might find it all works fine as you have modified it."
Good luck Imax1 you have shown incredible talent and craftsmanship in your work to date.
I have two options of sails I can use ,
A two cam sails that are no faster than normal sails ,
or
Full blown race sails.? ( they push hard on the front of the board ) .
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Ready to take out of retirement .
Back strap moved forward 6 cm , nice wide stance for oafy me front straps . I thought this would be OK because the boards rocker is so flat so far forward and is quite a long board .
New deck pads and straps and sugar coating.
The last time I rode a board this narrow was about thirty years ago and thirty kg lighter . ( 57 cm )
Can someone tell me the biggest size sail i could use on this thing , im presuming its not a 9.4 in 15 kts ???
Was a old tuttle , now a butt ugly 34cm US box.
The fin looks cool as does the deck modifications. Perhaps a 7.5 m2 as per Grich62. Where is the finbox in relation to the straps ? I would be interested to hear about your feelings after sailing the board as I would have expected the original straps were in a good position relative to the fin but I guess you will have enough age enhanced "leverage" at the back end to make the engine room of the tail work.
Yeah , the tail is quite thin and pinny. The rest of the board is 10 cm thick and boxy . It's got a long finbox . As a guesstimate I'd say front of finbox middle of the new back strap . Looks good to me.
Original straps position for a 80 kg pilot with a old hang off the back sail seems like a good position .
Im using new sail and I'm fat
7.5 ish is around 20 to 25 kts for me . That's kinda what I'm thinking.
If it's a real solid 25 + I'm thinking 6.5 ?
I think originally it would have worked well with 4.5- 6.5 m2 sails. Now with modern sails they are lower aspect and leech twist off. Hence yes 5.5 to 7.5 as you propose as modern sails have a wider range better top end but not as good low end as older sails.
I added the following to my original comment for what it is worth:
"You might find the wetted surface of the board has increased by using footstraps further forward and this might be an issue and the back straps as originally designed would unwet the planing surface.
Mast track-The board likely has a mast track/base forward from boards of today. The board is great and it is "old school" and based upon a "high aspect" sail of the late 80s/early 90s. That means the mast track was placed with this in mind. High Aspect sails means taller with a shorter boom. Modern sails are shorter with longer booms. You may or may not align properly on the board with modern sails.
Using a new sail I would have used high booms for the mast forward position to address the modern sails. That could be done even by slightly extending up the mast extension up a bit to do so. In this way set it up to adjust the rig geometry for the original further aft straps with modern sails given the wide point of the board and maximum volume are further forward than it is today.
That may not be an issue and you might find it all works fine as you have modified it."
Good luck Imax1 you have shown incredible talent and craftsmanship in your work to date.
I have two options of sails I can use ,
A two cam sails that are no faster than normal sails ,
or
Full blown race sails.? ( they push hard on the front of the board ) .
I would use whatever I had. I presently have a Mistral One Design Race Sail twin cam of 7.4 m2 which is what I would use (designed 1989-90, made 2004). I think Ezzy twin cams have great low end so an Ezzy Lion 7.5 m2 would be great but I don't have one that size I do have an Ezzy Lion 3 9.5 twin cam which would be very big but it would be very interesting to try a big sail just to see how it goes. I would use whatever works for you. I would not use modern 4 cam camber induced race sails as I don't have any. A thing to remember is that in terms of low end power a late 80s/early 90s slalom race 6.5 m2 might be a modern race sail of 7.5m2-8.0 m2 in terms of race sails and low end. This is because of the floppy leech which twists off too much for light wind power cp. older sails with tighter leeches. Also bear in mind modern sails are much heavier than older ones. There were big sails in the 1980s (eg WarpSpeed and Slalomlite) which are a few kilos lighter than modern slalom sails with better low end although not as wide a wind range. Take a look at the NP brochure specs below from 1987:
hitthewave.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/neil-pryde-sails-1987-catalog.pdf
hi imax,put the straps back where they were,this will make the board better to handle once planing and easer to keep on the plane ,put the fin in the rear of the box and only move it forward if you are getting spin out mast track just put in the middle and move it back as wind strength increases or you use smaller sails ,sail range 8 to 6 meters ,use the 2 cam sail first.in the days we owned these boards we would only use the one board from 15knt to max winds and only change sails to suit
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hi imax,put the straps back where they were,this will make the board better to handle once planing and easer to keep on the plane ,put the fin in the rear of the box and only move it forward if you are getting spin out mast track just put in the middle and move it back as wind strength increases or you use smaller sails ,sail range 8 to 6 meters ,use the 2 cam sail first.in the days we owned these boards we would only use the one board from 15knt to max winds and only change sails to suit
I agree. These boards also should be kept as original as possible in terms of design. It is the same with traditional malibu logs.
Imax1, im doing similar experiment on Mistral Explosion 130. 288long 58wide. Ive sailed it with 7.5m Ezzy Lion 2cam. Board has a very long mastrack. Sailed it original fin (31cm) n mastrack almost rightback for first mission. Felt pretty balanced n in straps ok. Second mission i used 7.5m Lion, Flying Objects Nitro 38cm fin. But moved mastrack foward to number 4. Didnt feel comfy at all. Like i was too far forward using the Lion. Wind was 12-16kts
To get planing had to have front foot against mastbase. A different thing to ride but fun n reasonably fast.
Board felt better to ride in stronger winds using Ezzy wave 5.8m n 5.5m. A shortboom tighter leach sail.
Select to expand quoteGoofyRyder-2206 said..
Pulled this out of the shed after seeing a forecast for a big westerly coming... got it with a bunch of old gear way back when i started windsurfing 3 years ago, figured I wouldn't be able to sail it then, forgot about it for a while and decided to give it a crack! :D Just curious if anyone knows more about these boards - or the fancy looking fin sticking out of it :D
Hear you gave it a good crack today Scotty, until the fin box gave way Hopefully you didn't damage yourself...
Select to expand quoteMr Keen said..GoofyRyder-2206 said..
Pulled this out of the shed after seeing a forecast for a big westerly coming... got it with a bunch of old gear way back when i started windsurfing 3 years ago, figured I wouldn't be able to sail it then, forgot about it for a while and decided to give it a crack! :D Just curious if anyone knows more about these boards - or the fancy looking fin sticking out of it :D
Hear you gave it a good crack today Scotty, until the fin box gave way Hopefully you didn't damage yourself...
haha nah the finbox is absolutely fine, in fact there's about 5mm of fin still in it.... The mast track however, has been ripped to pieces.
Fin snapped about 50m after i beared away and got up to speed, I didn't hit anything, just popped under the pressure. That's the last time I trust an ancient fin :P. This is both the oldest, and fastest board I have ever used. general consensus was "yeah faster than 30 knots" .
board felt good until the fin went and I had alot of fun, I'll be fixing the mast track for sure!!!!
