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Created by saltyheaven > 9 months ago, 28 Sep 2015
Can10
173 posts
5 Apr 2017 7:11AM
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Jethrow said..
Interested (within budgetary constraints)


Jethrow

Ok...Send me a message with your budget, type of boards.

Again some boards need repairs, so much cheaper, enough to keep you busy for winter
Others are from ancient generations (early & mid 80s) but still good D2s.

We are trying to build a list of what can be available...

Anyone else?

blazing928
VIC, 106 posts
5 Apr 2017 9:23PM
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Hi
would be interested but only something like a lechner. It always seems to get the best reviews/raves, so for me, no point to get another "nice" but realistically uncompetitive board [not that I'm even remotely a competitive sailor!!], like my Mistral EQ1 .5 & EQ2 are compared to that flippin Phantom....
nigel

Can10
173 posts
6 Apr 2017 4:50AM
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blazing928 said..
Hi
would be interested but only something like a lechner. It always seems to get the best reviews/raves, so for me, no point to get another "nice" but realistically uncompetitive board [not that I'm even remotely a competitive sailor!!], like my Mistral EQ1 .5 & EQ2 are compared to that flippin Phantom....
nigel


Ok Nigel
We'll see what we can find and align...that would come from the US this time...So don't be too exigent ;)

Chris 249
NSW, 3401 posts
6 Apr 2017 7:21AM
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blazing928 said..
Hi
would be interested but only something like a lechner. It always seems to get the best reviews/raves, so for me, no point to get another "nice" but realistically uncompetitive board [not that I'm even remotely a competitive sailor!!], like my Mistral EQ1 .5 & EQ2 are compared to that flippin Phantom....
nigel


I thought the Equipe 2 was supposed to be fully competitive against the Phantom. Have things changed over the last few years?

BSN101
WA, 2306 posts
7 Apr 2017 9:08AM
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Can10 said..

blazing928 said..
wouldn't the biggest barrier to D2 participation be the lack of boards? I can't even remember seeing a D2 board for sale. I'm an old Mistral EQ user, and they are like hens teeth!



Hi Guys,
We are currently evaluating feasibility to load a container from the US with dozen of D2 boards, different shapes, going from "need repairs" to "ready to go" ...Anyone interested?
Who takes the lead to list wish list?


I am interested but really only interested in sea worthy hulls. Not sure of $'s though,

Lechner as it has the review ticks or a Davidson as there is one here locally already.

How hard will it be to get some suitable sails too?

Cheers Dave

Can10
173 posts
7 Apr 2017 9:42AM
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Can10 said..


blazing928 said..
wouldn't the biggest barrier to D2 participation be the lack of boards? I can't even remember seeing a D2 board for sale. I'm an old Mistral EQ user, and they are like hens teeth!




Hi Guys,
We are currently evaluating feasibility to load a container from the US with dozen of D2 boards, different shapes, going from "need repairs" to "ready to go" ...Anyone interested?
Who takes the lead to list wish list?



I am interested but really only interested in sea worthy hulls. Not sure of $'s though,

Lechner as it has the review ticks or a Davidson as there is one here locally already.

How hard will it be to get some suitable sails too?

Cheers Dave


Hi Dave

Okay...I add you to list of D2 seekers ;)

What do you mean by "suitable sails" ?

Do you mean typical IBSA type A 6.5 triangular?
Or Type B kind of NP 7.3 Imco or Lechner sail?
Or what...?

BSN101
WA, 2306 posts
7 Apr 2017 10:00AM
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Can10 said..

BSN101 said..


Can10 said..



blazing928 said..
wouldn't the biggest barrier to D2 participation be the lack of boards? I can't even remember seeing a D2 board for sale. I'm an old Mistral EQ user, and they are like hens teeth!





Hi Guys,
We are currently evaluating feasibility to load a container from the US with dozen of D2 boards, different shapes, going from "need repairs" to "ready to go" ...Anyone interested?
Who takes the lead to list wish list?




I am interested but really only interested in sea worthy hulls. Not sure of $'s though,

Lechner as it has the review ticks or a Davidson as there is one here locally already.

How hard will it be to get some suitable sails too?

Cheers Dave



Hi Dave

Okay...I add you to list of D2 seekers ;)

What do you mean by "suitable sails" ?

Do you mean typical IBSA type A 6.5 triangular?
Or Type B kind of NP 7.3 Imco or Lechner sail?
Or what...?


Either type. Getting the boards here in Aust is hard enough and sails are just as rare.

Im still looking for a suitable 7.4RB sail for my Equipe2

Can10
173 posts
7 Apr 2017 9:01PM
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Can10 said..


BSN101 said..



Can10 said..




blazing928 said..
wouldn't the biggest barrier to D2 participation be the lack of boards? I can't even remember seeing a D2 board for sale. I'm an old Mistral EQ user, and they are like hens teeth!






Hi Guys,
We are currently evaluating feasibility to load a container from the US with dozen of D2 boards, different shapes, going from "need repairs" to "ready to go" ...Anyone interested?
Who takes the lead to list wish list?





I am interested but really only interested in sea worthy hulls. Not sure of $'s though,

Lechner as it has the review ticks or a Davidson as there is one here locally already.

How hard will it be to get some suitable sails too?

Cheers Dave




Hi Dave

Okay...I add you to list of D2 seekers ;)

What do you mean by "suitable sails" ?

Do you mean typical IBSA type A 6.5 triangular?
Or Type B kind of NP 7.3 Imco or Lechner sail?
Or what...?



Either type. Getting the boards here in Aust is hard enough and sails are just as rare.

Im still looking for a suitable 7.4RB sail for my Equipe2


Dave,

Do you mean that type of RB sail? If required, still easy to find here...

That said, everyone now can use up to 9.5 sqm, according to new D2 Class Equipment Rules (8.5 for women)
The 7.8 from T293 (much more recent) could be a good compromise also...


BSN101
WA, 2306 posts
7 Apr 2017 9:55PM
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BSN101 said..


Can10 said..



BSN101 said..




Can10 said..





blazing928 said..
wouldn't the biggest barrier to D2 participation be the lack of boards? I can't even remember seeing a D2 board for sale. I'm an old Mistral EQ user, and they are like hens teeth!







Hi Guys,
We are currently evaluating feasibility to load a container from the US with dozen of D2 boards, different shapes, going from "need repairs" to "ready to go" ...Anyone interested?
Who takes the lead to list wish list?






I am interested but really only interested in sea worthy hulls. Not sure of $'s though,

Lechner as it has the review ticks or a Davidson as there is one here locally already.

How hard will it be to get some suitable sails too?

Cheers Dave





Hi Dave

Okay...I add you to list of D2 seekers ;)

What do you mean by "suitable sails" ?

Do you mean typical IBSA type A 6.5 triangular?
Or Type B kind of NP 7.3 Imco or Lechner sail?
Or what...?




Either type. Getting the boards here in Aust is hard enough and sails are just as rare.

Im still looking for a suitable 7.4RB sail for my Equipe2



Dave,

Do you mean that type of RB sail? If required, still easy to find here...

That said, everyone now can use up to 9.5 sqm, according to new D2 Class Equipment Rules (8.5 for women)
The 7.8 from T293 (much more recent) could be a good compromise also...



Thats the sort of sail.
7.4 & 8.5 pair would be nice, BUT my wife will no doubt kill me when she discovers all this kit or this thread (which ever happens first).
I have found an old Gaastra Foil 3Cam 7.0. Im yet to use it. I have replaced all the battens

Jethrow
NSW, 1243 posts
8 Apr 2017 10:30AM
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Something else to consider. A friend used a 20' container to ship his dinghy from Melbourne to San Fran. This cost more than $4000AUD and didn't include duties and such. This was a container packed at the shipping yard and unpacked at the other end in the yard. If there is any additional transport of the container, or storage, this would increase the cost.

Can10
173 posts
8 Apr 2017 9:43AM
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Sometime ago, I asked a couple of quotations to ship some D2s to Australia...I think it was something around CAD 3000 or so, for 4-6 boards, similar then...I've been told most important thing to save on it is to put them in a box. We save a lot on the volume. This is the volume that is expensive.
I looked at customized box designed for 5-6 boards that is no so easy to find and can be expensive also...
I need to search again....

(Dave: This type of sails above are cheap here...We can bargain for less than CAD or USD 100...Must pay attention to their shape though.)

BSN101
WA, 2306 posts
8 Apr 2017 7:04PM
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Can10 said..
Sometime ago, I asked a couple of quotations to ship some D2s to Australia...I think it was something around CAD 3000 or so, for 4-6 boards, similar then...I've been told most important thing to save on it is to put them in a box. We save a lot on the volume. This is the volume that is expensive.
I looked at customized box designed for 5-6 boards that is no so easy to find and can be expensive also...
I need to search again....

(Dave: This type of sails above are cheap here...We can bargain for less than CAD or USD 100...Must pay attention to their shape though.)



If this does actually happen I think that a few sails thrown in with the boards would be great.
They would likely make the boards go better than an EVO7 or Reflex R8.
Those that want a board should consider what sail will suit the board best (tight leach).
Board & sail together is a no brainer if you don't already have a sail.
Whats the available board list look like?

Can10
173 posts
11 Apr 2017 4:42AM
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Dave

Subject to confirmation it could be something like this:
1 or 2 Davidson
1 or 2 Cobra Olympic Lechner
1 Mistral M1
1 Tornado proto
1-2 Reix Competition
1 Reix Pro
1-2 Alpha..
1-2 Sailboard Regatta...

Some are in perfect shape, other need to be repaired.
All are real D2s and absolutely convenient to train and restart D2 in Australia.

We need to regroup all these boards 1st....then further evaluate costs for shipment (shared container)
Our objective is to help you, nothing else, and make it workable for you guys. No personal interest from our side here.

I keep you all posted ;)

AUS 814
NSW, 453 posts
11 Apr 2017 7:16AM
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Could definitely be interested but obviously will need to wait and evaluate shipping costs

joe windsurf
1480 posts
11 Apr 2017 5:21AM
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is this CAN10 whom I met with a croconut during KONA Worlds 2012 ??

Can10
173 posts
12 Apr 2017 1:02AM
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AUS 814 said..
Could definitely be interested but obviously will need to wait and evaluate shipping costs


Yes, let's gather all information, a couple of quotes for shipping...and we'll see whether it is workable or not.

blazing928
VIC, 106 posts
18 Apr 2017 3:04PM
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Chris 249 said..

blazing928 said..
Hi
would be interested but only something like a lechner. It always seems to get the best reviews/raves, so for me, no point to get another "nice" but realistically uncompetitive board [not that I'm even remotely a competitive sailor!!], like my Mistral EQ1 .5 & EQ2 are compared to that flippin Phantom....
nigel



I thought the Equipe 2 was supposed to be fully competitive against the Phantom. Have things changed over the last few years?


Chris
I'm keen, but not a very good sailor by any means, so I'm unable to get the best out of the board. I was told [!!] , at the RBW, that in the stronger winds , I guess 20knt plus, the Mistral can be competitive with the Phantom & Race 380, if you're an equal sailor. In lighter winds the others will point higher & plane earlier. The Phantoms centre board is huge in comparison to the EQ2.
nigel

cammd
QLD, 3860 posts
25 Jun 2017 11:01AM
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getting the dobleman ready for painting





AUS 814
NSW, 453 posts
25 Jun 2017 11:15AM
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THe Dobleman is looking great,so much bigger is the nose than compared to my Davidson which has also been given a bit of a make over






fjdoug
ACT, 548 posts
25 Jun 2017 2:56PM
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^^^^hi Peter, is that the Davidson that Bev had advertised up your way a couple of years ago (along with a couple of lechners, DB2's etc) ?

AUS 814
NSW, 453 posts
25 Jun 2017 3:48PM
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No it was from a guy near Nowra

Can10
173 posts
2 Jul 2017 1:46AM
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Hi Guys,

So we've made our homework here on East Coast of US and we could ship to Sydney up to 13-15 D2 boards, ranging from early 80s to mid 90s Cobra Lechner Olympic Design / Davidson boards

This includes the following boards:
1 Tornado 39 (need work)
2 Tornado Div 2 (need work)
1 Tornado prototype Surfpoint - ISR made - Tornado like (need work)
2 Alpha Phantom (need work)
2 Sailboard Races (top shape)
1 Mistral M1 with M1 original 6.5 sail! (top shape)
1 Reix Competition + original 6.5 Reix sail (very good shape)
2 Cobra Lechner (top shape)
1 Davidson (top shape)
(Maybe another Davidson also that we need to pick )

Prices will be ranging from USD 50-100 (depending of repair needs) up to USD 650 + shipment costs

Based on that volume, (13-15 boards) we estimate that shipping costs should be around USD 2500...so divided by 13-15, it is another USD 150 - 200 roughly to be added to each of board price.

It means also that most expensive ones (Cobra Lechner, Davidson...) should remain below USD 1000, delivered to Australia!
(as a comparison, a Davidson or a Lechner A390 in good shape in Europe worth ...Euros 850 at least !...and you need to go picking it!)

We can add a couple of 7.5 B sails as said previously

The beauty with D2 is that you don't need to have the most performant one to be the best and beat your friends...
You need to train hard 1st! Means train hard on a Reix, a Tornado DII or an M1 or even a Sailboard Race and you can beat a Lechner!!

This is all we can do for OZ now and we believe it is good enough to restart D2 momentum in Australia...

Let us know your thoughts ;)

BSN101
WA, 2306 posts
5 Jul 2017 3:16AM
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This won't be too much help but I've just been over in Holland on a canal boat just having a family holiday. At one stage I turned around an could count 9 RBs & D 1&2 looking boards on the side of the canal. Mistral alphas and many without marking that I could distinguish from the boat. One a 7 day period I gues that I would have seen over 150 long boards. It totally spun me out and agitated me that I couldn't stop and check them out. I also saw a school/ rentals on a lake with about 10 boards out.
i had a great trip too. In Switzerland now.

Can10
173 posts
6 Jul 2017 11:24AM
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Guys,
Any comments about above proposal, interest or not ?

cammd
QLD, 3860 posts
6 Jul 2017 3:37PM
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I think it a great proposal and you guys have gone to a lot of effort.

I am tempted to grab one of the Cobra Lechner's just to have one but I have the Dobleman pictured above so I can't justify two.

Can10
173 posts
6 Jul 2017 8:05PM
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Yes this is a good decision . Mine should be gone this morning so one only will remain...
There are 2 Reix, of which one Reix Pro, that I located while ago in QC...I'm wondering what owner wants to do with them..There is work to do but worth giving a look.
There is another Davidson located in the US that I was considering to bring back to QC...I would add it to the list.
Looks in great shape but mast track is missing.Can be replace easily..
I'll try to put some pics here of all these boards here later.

Can10
173 posts
8 Jul 2017 11:11PM
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Guys,

It belong to you to have all these boards cleaned, bubble wrapped and loaded in a container en route to Sydney, Australia.....

Please those of you interested, raise your hand







boardsurfr
WA, 2367 posts
9 Jul 2017 1:40AM
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Hand raised! I'd love to get one of the D2s you have. Maybe you can make it to the ECWF Cape Cod on September 16-17 this year and bring an extra D2?

Can10
173 posts
9 Jul 2017 5:36AM
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boardsurfr said..
Hand raised! I'd love to get one of the D2s you have. Maybe you can make it to the ECWF Cape Cod on September 16-17 this year and bring an extra D2?


These boards are stored near TPZ bridge...If you want to buy one, send me a message and I'll connect you with my friend.


Can10
173 posts
9 Jul 2017 5:37AM
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Guys, one Cobra only remains...I sold mine yesterday...Hurry up to decide ;)



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