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Favourite surf cars?

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Created by andersbq > 9 months ago, 19 Mar 2011
andersbq
61 posts
19 Mar 2011 3:23AM
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Many of you guys in Australia are ´petrol heads´ I would say.
When I visited Wollongong over X-mas they gave me a Holden Commodore with almost 300 hp, instead of the Camry I expected...

I have blogged some about my dream ´surf-cars´; www.andersbq.com/2011/03/surf-mobiles-of-future.html

How about yours? pls post some pics!

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
19 Mar 2011 8:12AM
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A van is the best vehicle for windsurfing. Bigger the better. The concept VW is too small and the other cars would be no better than a normal car.

I drive a Delica which isn't perfect but its pretty good.




This one isn't mine but is quite similar.


KenHo
NSW, 1353 posts
19 Mar 2011 8:32AM
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That Commodore comes in a wagon version too, and if you throw on a super-charger, not only do you get an insane engine note, but you add another herd of horses. The wagons are a big car, and make great wind-surfing cars.
An SS Commodore has 270 kW, the HSV has 317.

I reckon my Vito makes a good surf truck, but I got a short one. Next time I'll go the LWB VW !!

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
19 Mar 2011 9:30AM
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The new Commodore station wagon is much smaller than the previous model. The early to mid naughties Commodore wagon is a great vehicle for windsurfing as its so bloody big.

KenHo
NSW, 1353 posts
19 Mar 2011 9:56AM
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Haven't looked closely for a while, but I had one in 1998 as a fleet car, and it was huge, as noted.
I put a motor-bike in the back once, and closed the lid.



Mobydisc said...

The new Commodore station wagon is much smaller than the previous model. The early to mid naughties Commodore wagon is a great vehicle for windsurfing as its so bloody big.




CJW
NSW, 1721 posts
19 Mar 2011 11:27AM
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The hardest question you face when buying a car that also has to substitute as your windsurf transport vehicle is "what can you put up with". Some people don't mind driving vans around all the time, sure, some of the new vans drive like a car, but it's still a van and personally I couldn't drive one around all the time.

I went for a 2003 VY commodore berlina, V8 ^_^. It has everything from climate control to leather electric seats and has 5.7L of fury that sounds sweet It's basically like driving around in a limo, this I can put up with. It also easily fits 3 boards and about 6 sails without even moving the front two seats (rears obviously folded down). Add the massive fitted rubber mat that goes in the rear section (ebay ftw) and it doesn't even get dirty/wet.

AUS-057
QLD, 466 posts
19 Mar 2011 10:37AM
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+1 for the commodore wagon.

I have a VZ model. The last of the bigger models. The new models are at least 50cm shorter from tailgate to windscreen. I can just fit 1 x formula board, 1 x slalom board, 3 x formula sails, 2 slalom sails all inside.... Plenty big enough and still a car.

KenHo
NSW, 1353 posts
19 Mar 2011 3:47PM
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Good call.
I went for the van, and it's fine to drive around all the time. The new diesels are so quiet and clean.
I wanted more height for my push-bikes than the Commo could give me. I also choked at $70K for a new one, though we got a cracker of a bargain on a low-k SSV for the missus. So much car for the money, especially compared to German stuff, and is every bit as nice.
Sounds like Anders needs a Commodore, unless he wants to pony up for the crazy Audi.


CJW said...

The hardest question you face when buying a car that also has to substitute as your windsurf transport vehicle is "what can you put up with". Some people don't mind driving vans around all the time, sure, some of the new vans drive like a car, but it's still a van and personally I couldn't drive one around all the time.

I went for a 2003 VY commodore berlina, V8 ^_^. It has everything from climate control to leather electric seats and has 5.7L of fury that sounds sweet It's basically like driving around in a limo, this I can put up with. It also easily fits 3 boards and about 6 sails without even moving the front two seats (rears obviously folded down). Add the massive fitted rubber mat that goes in the rear section (ebay ftw) and it doesn't even get dirty/wet.


barn
WA, 2960 posts
19 Mar 2011 2:04PM
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Hang on, I don't think 'dream surf cars' and 'commodore wagons' should go in the same thread..

They belong in the 'excessively practical transport while paying off the mortgage' forum..

I'd get a Baja bug,




or this split window if I was being practical




Ian K
WA, 4122 posts
19 Mar 2011 2:54PM
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The days of the cool surf wagons are gone.

KenHo
NSW, 1353 posts
19 Mar 2011 7:21PM
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Not unless you have the HSV version with Walkinshaw supercharger.
Maybe you need to drive one, grasshopper !!

Station wagons can be fun. The Commo holds up well against the Audi that costs 4 times as much.



barn said...

Hang on, I don't think 'dream surf cars' and 'commodore wagons' should go in the same thread..

They belong in the 'excessively practical transport while paying off the mortgage' forum..

I'd get a Baja bug,




or this split window if I was being practical







KenHo
NSW, 1353 posts
19 Mar 2011 7:26PM
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Or, you can get one that sounds like this................

Wait for the red one. Anders did mention petrol-heads.

Haircut
QLD, 6483 posts
19 Mar 2011 7:28PM
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i've kept the 95 commodore wagon i've got because everything fits in it

it smells like fish

it's got more salt and sand in it than the beach

the roof lining sags and makes you feel like you're riding in a balanese taxi

it has 8 cylinders, but i'm sure only 7 work

it's got so many things wrong with it, you need a pilots license to keep it running, if you can even get it started

one day when i was getting out of the car, my hat fell on the ground, and people started coming over to put money in it

confused
NSW, 175 posts
19 Mar 2011 9:03PM
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I've had one of these for the last 18 months:

http://www.drive.com.au/used-cars/NISSAN/ELGRAND/Sydney/detail.aspx?id=15413255&lid=15413255&pg=1&pp=2&d=0&SG=-1241586423&pt=1

Maybe not very cool but a great car / van compromise.

Sadly we need to sell ours as the wife needs something lower but I'd recommend it as a good option for comfort and loads of space for toys.

Would still prefer a LWB VW TD5 if I had the money.

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
19 Mar 2011 9:11PM
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Elgrands are such cool looking vans. If I'd known about them when shopping for a van I'd probably bought one. Over in Japan and Hong Kong they are the vehicle used by VIPs to get around town in maximum comfort and style. I remember seeing them over there and although I had no idea what they were I though they were great. Every time I see one driving around it always brings a smile.

confused
NSW, 175 posts
19 Mar 2011 11:24PM
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Mobydisc said...

Over in Japan and Hong Kong they are the vehicle used by VIPs to get around town in maximum comfort and style.





I like the sound of that... a new found VIP status!

P.C_simpson
NSW, 1489 posts
20 Mar 2011 1:32AM
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I'm with barn, commadoore as a surf wagon, come on guys, boring.. that Baja is sick always wanted that exact beast, had one once loved it, not as cool as that one, just need roofracks.., the old kingswood wagon used to popular, but not as much as a kombi..

My choice, there was a old woody on Monster Garage they but put on a Bronco chassis, that was getting close..

By i think my Van is almost perfect, the park at most spots and sleep where you want is a major plus and somewhere to sleep after pissing up at the beach is also good but it would be perfect as a 4x4 and a bit faster..





Mark _australia
WA, 22870 posts
19 Mar 2011 11:40PM
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Can't beat a Troopie with a modern T/D dropped in or a Brunswick conversion

CJW
NSW, 1721 posts
20 Mar 2011 2:41AM
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P.C_simpson said...

*snip

The Green one i did for a mate is cool, only 1000km on the clock and runs on gas.. Both have beds and all the rest inside..


Yeah I drove a fair distance in a toyota Hiace once....I'll take my boring, climate controlled, cruise equiped, leather seated V8 limo any day thanks It's horses for courses, I'm not willing to sacrifice comfort for a bit more practicality, others see it differently

If I had the cash I'd get an Audi RS6, 570HP twin turbo V10 awww yeah, comfy as and plenty of space for gear. Roll'n like a boss ^_^

Waiting4wind
NSW, 1871 posts
20 Mar 2011 10:53AM
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If you want a hi performance windsurf wagon then the commodore vx-vz v8 is the go. I had one for many years and being a prtrol head that I am mine had a healthy 300-400kw throughout it's life - having had supercharger (which howls louder than a bad select fin) to twin turbo to big cam.

You can squeeze 3 boards, 6 sails, 2 booms masts and other bits into one of these.

I finally made the transition to a Hyundai Turbo Diesel Van which is not bad. With some tweaking it delivers 150kw so quite pleasant to drive around with a nice fat torque curve.

If you want to get to the beach fast in something totally impratical you could use one of these, which I did while the commodore was having engine performance surgery.

barn
WA, 2960 posts
20 Mar 2011 8:56AM
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Unrelated, I can't work out which is more annoying, that host, or that plastic bonnet..






I think its telling that we turn commodores into these things, we just don't have enough imagination as a country.. Overseas when you see a sports car, it looks like a sports car. When I see an R8 clubsport or equivalent Boss Falcon, I see a taxi with plastic accessories.. And a driver with no imagination...

I have a commodore ute, and I can throw gear in the back not carry any passengers and all that, awesome car.. But I still think this car below is the worst thing ever built. I mean.. Its just cringeworthy on so many levels..

But then again, I used to play AC/DC on my tapedeck.. Now I can't stand it..

Ian K
WA, 4122 posts
20 Mar 2011 9:07AM
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But the car must be appropriate for the occasion. There are cars that you'd take to the Summernats, cars you'd use to ferry brides to a wedding in and cars you'd take to the beach. The Ep2 Walkinsaw R8 is the most versatile car here, you could take it to both the Summernats and a wedding.

W4W gets away with the Rex only because it's covered in sand and irreverently stacked with windsurfing gear. Sorry CJW this car would only look good stacked with lacy white brides.




KenHo
NSW, 1353 posts
20 Mar 2011 12:40PM
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I like the dude's style. The bonnet scoop is borderline, but listen hard, he tells you to ditch it.
I've had "proper" sports cars, from overseas, and while they drive nice and all, and look porn, they can't carry enough gear. The TT Coupe wasn't bad, as I could drop teh rear seats (laugh out loud right there) and stuff a quad box and an amp head in, and I did have roofies for sailing gear, but it was a dopey surf-truck all the same.
For it's sins, the Commo has awesome load-carrying capacity, in all forms.
I agree the Maloo is a very expensive 2 seats, and I would not have one, but the VE sedan has a massive boot, and a pull down centre for longer items.
At 100kph, the SSV is doing 1600prm, barely off idle, and on a long trip, that means a relaxed low-fatigue drive.
Tell me that the super-charger howl did not give you goose-bumpps, I dare you.

"While there is still oil in the ground, get one of these".




barn said...

Unrelated, I can't work out which is more annoying, that host, or that plastic bonnet..






I think its telling that we turn commodores into these things, we just don't have enough imagination as a country.. Overseas when you see a sports car, it looks like a sports car. When I see an R8 clubsport or equivalent Boss Falcon, I see a taxi with plastic accessories.. And a driver with no imagination...

I have a commodore ute, and I can throw gear in the back not carry any passengers and all that, awesome car.. But I still think this car below is the worst thing ever built. I mean.. Its just cringeworthy on so many levels..

But then again, I used to play AC/DC on my tapedeck.. Now I can't stand it..



CJW
NSW, 1721 posts
20 Mar 2011 12:42PM
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Aww cmon! Say what you will about Audi's but there's something about a twin turbo V10 at full noise with windsurfing gear in the back that just makes me a little warm inside Best thing about the RS4, RS6 audi's is they basically blend into traffic but are wicked fast, which as you know from my stealth spec VL turbo wagon is kind of a pre requisite of mine. I agree with you on the HSV's they are pretty horrid looking cars, the SSv imo looks way better.

KenHo
NSW, 1353 posts
20 Mar 2011 12:49PM
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CJW said...

Aww cmon! Say what you will about Audi's but there's something about a twin turbo V10 at full noise with windsurfing gear in the back that just makes me a little warm inside Best thing about the RS4, RS6 audi's is they basically blend into traffic but are wicked fast, which as you know from my stealth spec VL turbo wagon is kind of a pre requisite of mine. I agree with you on the HSV's they are pretty horrid looking cars, the SSv imo looks way better.


A cool exhaust that opened up a bit at higher revs would be nice though.
Would be nice to hear the Lambo howl.

Stock HSV's don't have the bonnet scoop. That's something you would have to specify.
The HSV GTS is a very nice looking beast.


Waiting4wind
NSW, 1871 posts
20 Mar 2011 12:55PM
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KenHo said...

Tell me that the super-charger howl did not give you goose-bumpps, I dare you.

"While there is still oil in the ground, get one of these".









The novelty of super charger goes pretty quick after a few days in traffic. Not to mention that it creates a bit of attention as well, sometimes unwanted!

Richiefish
QLD, 5610 posts
20 Mar 2011 11:56AM
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Haircut said...

i've kept the 95 commodore wagon i've got because everything fits in it

it smells like fish

it's got more salt and sand in it than the beach

the roof lining sags and makes you feel like you're riding in a balanese taxi

it has 8 cylinders, but i'm sure only 7 work

it's got so many things wrong with it, you need a pilots license to keep it running, if you can even get it started

one day when i was getting out of the car, my hat fell on the ground, and people started coming over to put money in it


smells like fish eh ? I cant make up my mind which smart ar5e remark to make so just use your imagination...

KenHo
NSW, 1353 posts
20 Mar 2011 1:13PM
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Probably. Would also shred tyres, and they ain't cheap on the 20" wheels.
The OEM Bridgestones are $800-$1100 EACH, depending on who is quoting.

Still makes me giggle to hear it.




Waiting4wind said...

KenHo said...

Tell me that the super-charger howl did not give you goose-bumpps, I dare you.

"While there is still oil in the ground, get one of these".









The novelty of super charger goes pretty quick after a few days in traffic. Not to mention that it creates a bit of attention as well, sometimes unwanted!


evlPanda
NSW, 9205 posts
20 Mar 2011 2:16PM
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I'm looking at a Subarau Liberty stationwagon.

Have I lost my edge?

CJW
NSW, 1721 posts
20 Mar 2011 3:06PM
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KenHo said...

CJW said...

Aww cmon! Say what you will about Audi's but there's something about a twin turbo V10 at full noise with windsurfing gear in the back that just makes me a little warm inside Best thing about the RS4, RS6 audi's is they basically blend into traffic but are wicked fast, which as you know from my stealth spec VL turbo wagon is kind of a pre requisite of mine. I agree with you on the HSV's they are pretty horrid looking cars, the SSv imo looks way better.


A cool exhaust that opened up a bit at higher revs would be nice though.
Would be nice to hear the Lambo howl.

Stock HSV's don't have the bonnet scoop. That's something you would have to specify.
The HSV GTS is a very nice looking beast.



Yeah I don't know, personally, I reckon all the HSV's just look a bit 'tacked together' and over the top (not in a good way), not a fan of their rear lights either....and that new LED ****e they've got going on the front; the LED driving lights they have on the new series 2 SSv are way better. Personally just about the best looking commodore you can buy is an SSv wagon, lowered on some nice rims, looks BOSS.

And yeah if I ever own an RS6 it would have to have some sort of exhaust valve etc so I could switch to straight pipes with the press of a button....just imagine...oooh

barn
WA, 2960 posts
20 Mar 2011 1:09PM
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CJW said...

Aww cmon! Say what you will about Audi's but there's something about a twin turbo V10 at full noise with windsurfing gear in the back that just makes me a little warm inside Best thing about the RS4, RS6 audi's is they basically blend into traffic but are wicked fast, which as you know from my stealth spec VL turbo wagon is kind of a pre requisite of mine. I agree with you on the HSV's they are pretty horrid looking cars, the SSv imo looks way better.


hahah yep that thing rocks, stealth spec all the way.. makes up for audis 2 brain farts that TT hair dressers coupe (sorry ken!) and all that advertising they do in movies..






But problem is these are all tarmac bound.. how are we gunna find all the WA secret spots if we have to stay on the bitumen??

(hence the air conditioned nitro buggy)



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