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Front foot issues

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Created by Maddlad > 9 months ago, 27 Dec 2018
MagicRide
688 posts
28 Dec 2018 2:28PM
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sailquik said..




MagicRide said..







That is wave board strap setup. It is just WRONG for Slalom board type sailing.





The point I was trying to make was the angle of the front footstrap. You would of course move the strap out board by the rail on a slalom board or slalom setting, but the angle of the strap could be the same as my example. I'm only talking about the front straps since that is the discussion.

Maddlad
WA, 901 posts
28 Dec 2018 2:46PM
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It's all good mate, all attempts to help are appreciated.

NCUSAGUY
65 posts
28 Dec 2018 10:25PM
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Wide slalom boards = outboard straps. Get a bigger fin and you will need more pressure on the front foot to keep the board from flipping. Foot straps too big? Even with my somewhat tight straps, I have to lift my toes almost continuously to keep my feet snug. I use a 42 cm Techtonics fin with my 7.4 race sail on my Starboard isonic 111. I weigh 170 lbs. The fin also works fine with my 8.4 and 6.6. A little big with the 6.6.

Manuel7
1275 posts
28 Dec 2018 11:52PM
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Apologies for not reading all replies... happens regardless of wind angles? Have you tried different lines positions? Too much pressure on back foot = move them back.

Rob11
240 posts
29 Dec 2018 6:18AM
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Maddlad said..

AUS1111 said..
Not sure if this helps, but I got a new board and had the same problem. I tried all of the usual things - adjusting boom height, moving mast base and footstraps around etc. Nothing helped and the board felt dangerous, which makes you slow. To be honest I really didn't want to move my boom or change mast positions etc as they had always felt comfortable that way before.

Ultimately I fixed it completely by selling that board (Manta 59) and getting different one. Now I can put my boom nice and high, where I like it, and there is no problem.

So my suggestion (and it is an expensive one - sorry) is to try different boards.



Yeah that's what I'm worried about. I'm hoping it doesn't come to that coz I've put a lot of money into my boards and I love them. I just need to work out how to use them at their best.


Have you tried swapping board only or sail only with different brand to check?
I remember having similar issues on NP but that was way back on RS Racing RS4.

Start reading everything and its opposite here, especially with lines position.
Thought moving lines forward would give more backhand pressure = more back foot pressure = less front foot pressure??

Fez
NSW, 130 posts
29 Dec 2018 10:08AM
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You have several problems by the sounds of things.
1: move footstraps outboard.
2: Keep mast track at 135cm from back of board. SThios should equate to centre of track.
3: Don't "canter" the rig to windward too much when overpowered as it will lift you too much and pull front foot up. Just sheet out more and keep rig more upright.
4: harness lines should be 26" long.

Your gear is way too big for your weight. At 74kgs my biggest sail is 7.0m and 97L isonic. Planes in 12knots easily.

KJ
VIC, 158 posts
29 Dec 2018 4:55PM
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Maddlad said..
Sorry if this topic has been raised before and I've missed it, but im struggling with front foot issues since going to full slalom gear and I'm looking for a way to fix it because it's killing my love of sailing.

The basic issue is that my front foot gets bumped out of the footstrap at high speed when sailing across the wind. I've had some bad crashes because my front foot gets so light it gets ripped out and I hit the water.

Ive done plenty of research on the Internet looking for a cure for this problem. I've also spoken to the sail designer and tester for Neil Pryde sails (who really made a big effort to help I must say), Guy Cribb (who suggested some things), friends, other racers etc but so far have had no success. The problem is I can't get all the speed out of my gear coz I can't stay in the straps. I'm only 71 kilos, so I'm not heavy, but there are plenty of other riders of similar weight who have no issues.

I've tried:

Keeping my stance and hips as square as possible,
softer/smaller fins
Boom lower
Harness lines in different positions
Foot straps closer together/farther apart
Mast step forward
Downhaul on and off.

On the weekend i detuned my sail by releasing the downhaul 2 cm off from max which had the sail well below minimum spec, and it felt a little better but the sail was not efficient and did not accelerate how it should.

I really like my gear and have spent good money on it, so I'd like to get it sorted, hence my post. It's sailable as is, but not as enjoyable as it could be so if anyone has had the same issue and found a way to sort it I'd be keen to hear from them. Thanks in advance for any real help.

Cheers. :)


have you got narrow, high arched feet?

Maddlad
WA, 901 posts
29 Dec 2018 4:07PM
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KJ said..

Maddlad said..
Sorry if this topic has been raised before and I've missed it, but im struggling with front foot issues since going to full slalom gear and I'm looking for a way to fix it because it's killing my love of sailing.

The basic issue is that my front foot gets bumped out of the footstrap at high speed when sailing across the wind. I've had some bad crashes because my front foot gets so light it gets ripped out and I hit the water.

Ive done plenty of research on the Internet looking for a cure for this problem. I've also spoken to the sail designer and tester for Neil Pryde sails (who really made a big effort to help I must say), Guy Cribb (who suggested some things), friends, other racers etc but so far have had no success. The problem is I can't get all the speed out of my gear coz I can't stay in the straps. I'm only 71 kilos, so I'm not heavy, but there are plenty of other riders of similar weight who have no issues.

I've tried:

Keeping my stance and hips as square as possible,
softer/smaller fins
Boom lower
Harness lines in different positions
Foot straps closer together/farther apart
Mast step forward
Downhaul on and off.

On the weekend i detuned my sail by releasing the downhaul 2 cm off from max which had the sail well below minimum spec, and it felt a little better but the sail was not efficient and did not accelerate how it should.

I really like my gear and have spent good money on it, so I'd like to get it sorted, hence my post. It's sailable as is, but not as enjoyable as it could be so if anyone has had the same issue and found a way to sort it I'd be keen to hear from them. Thanks in advance for any real help.

Cheers. :)



have you got narrow, high arched feet?


Not sure, maybe...

Ian K
WA, 4122 posts
29 Dec 2018 7:49PM
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You just need a toehold.




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