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Seat or waist harness??

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Created by mattn > 9 months ago, 10 Nov 2016
djl070
WA, 290 posts
18 Nov 2016 7:26AM
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LeeD said..
To keep a waist harness from riding up, just lower your booms.
When hooked in, if your booms are REALLY low, your waist harness will be forced to slide DOWN on your body.
Do a compromise and have the harness lines perpendicular to your body when hooked in, and the harness will stay IN PLACE.


True,however sometimes you need the boom high for light winds/earlier planning and leverage,what ever is the most comfortable I reckon(as per Brett Morris comment)
Like all harnesses(and most things windsurfing) it is trial & error till you find one that fits perfectly and is comfortable for your style.

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8087 posts
18 Nov 2016 10:27AM
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Mr Milk said..
I've never had my nuts squashed wearing a waist harness


Don't have that problem..

MarkSSC
QLD, 642 posts
18 Nov 2016 10:44PM
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If your waist harness is riding up then you need to buy a better one. My three year old NP now sits in the cupboard because it is obselete. It would ride up all the time, regardless of where I positioned it or how tight I made it around my waist. Even worse, when it slid upwards it forced by buoyancy vest to do likewise, nearly choking me! I no longer have those problems because I have updated my gear.

LeeD
3939 posts
19 Nov 2016 8:15AM
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Low booms with a waist harness forces the harness to slide DOWN.
Perfect setting is 90 degrees, or perpendicular to your body when hooked in, hiked out, powered up.
Too high booms force the waist harness to slide up.

MarkSSC
QLD, 642 posts
19 Nov 2016 10:59AM
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LeeD said..
Low booms with a waist harness forces the harness to slide DOWN.
Perfect setting is 90 degrees, or perpendicular to your body when hooked in, hiked out, powered up.
Too high booms force the waist harness to slide up.


Sorry but I disagree Lee. As I said in the previous post, the newer and better waist harnesses do not slide up. Try and see! I am not sure about your perfect setting either. A slightly higher boom is great in lighter conditions and you can create more downforce. These are not my ideas, but I have tested them and they work. There are some very good windsurfing coaches online and they are worth a read.

Faff
VIC, 1243 posts
19 Nov 2016 1:41PM
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LeeD said..
Low booms with a waist harness forces the harness to slide DOWN.
Perfect setting is 90 degrees, or perpendicular to your body when hooked in, hiked out, powered up.
Too high booms force the waist harness to slide up.


New school windsurfing: the boom is high and the harness lines are long and almost vertical (high boom), arms bent - everything to put the pressure down through the mast foot. Horizontal lines increase the chance of accidental unhooking.

djl070
WA, 290 posts
19 Nov 2016 2:22PM
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MrCranky said...
LeeD said..
Low booms with a waist harness forces the harness to slide DOWN.
Perfect setting is 90 degrees, or perpendicular to your body when hooked in, hiked out, powered up.
Too high booms force the waist harness to slide up.


New school windsurfing: the boom is high and the harness lines are long and almost vertical (high boom), arms bent - everything to put the pressure down through the mast foot. Horizontal lines increase the chance of accidental unhooking.

Spot on,long lines & boom high

NotWal
QLD, 7428 posts
21 Nov 2016 5:04PM
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^ From an earlier thread; www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/General/54-Knots-And-check-out-those-short-harness-lines/


Hans Kreisel does very well with low booms and short lines. I don't really understand what's going on.
I had thought that high booms and long lines puts a lot more of your weight through the mast foot rather than your feet, so I would expect his mast foot and foot straps would be further forward. It shouldn't make any difference to sheeting and ballast though.

I find longer lines and a high boom is more comfortable. I can hold my head more or less still while the board bobs around like crazy.

AUS1111
WA, 3620 posts
21 Nov 2016 3:13PM
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^^ Not really what you would describe as "typical conditions" though eh?

ka43
NSW, 3082 posts
21 Nov 2016 6:28PM
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Plus he is 6'3" and not a bad sailor

seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
21 Nov 2016 5:40PM
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he's gonna be in trouble when he wants to sail back, he forgot the lines on the other side.

LeeD
3939 posts
22 Nov 2016 6:47AM
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Who sails "new school" or old school?
We just go windsurfing.
Lots of freestyler's use high booms and LONG harness lines, to get that 90 degree off the body line thing.
Lots of speed sailors use short lines and low booms, but their harness lines are still around 90 degrees off the body.
I"m not advocating high or low booms, I'm just saying that keeping the harness lines around 90 degrees off your torso keeps the harness from sliding up OR down.
Lots of wavesailors use low booms and long lines.
It's all personal preference, but if the problem is waist harness riding up your torso, then lower your booms, or raise your harness.

sick_em_rex
NSW, 1600 posts
22 Nov 2016 10:23AM
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LeeD said..
Who sails "new school" or old school?
We just go windsurfing.
Lots of freestyler's use high booms and LONG harness lines, to get that 90 degree off the body line thing.
Lots of speed sailors use short lines and low booms, but their harness lines are still around 90 degrees off the body.
I"m not advocating high or low booms, I'm just saying that keeping the harness lines around 90 degrees off your torso keeps the harness from sliding up OR down.
Lots of wavesailors use low booms and long lines.
It's all personal preference, but if the problem is waist harness riding up your torso, then lower your booms, or raise your harness.


If it's all personal preference as you say why are you giving opinions like you are the expert?

Magic Ride
719 posts
22 Nov 2016 12:41PM
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He has the future generation boom, where the harness lines retract inside the boom when not in use. They call em, automatic spring loaded harness lines



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