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The new Windsurfer LT Reviewed in detail

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Created by albymongrel > 9 months ago, 9 Apr 2018
windsufering
VIC, 1124 posts
30 Jan 2019 10:13PM
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Chris 249
NSW, 3352 posts
31 Jan 2019 9:11AM
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Gestalt said..
Also notice how hamish rigged his sail. Its bagged out.



It looks pretty normal by OD standards, possibly with less downhaul and a few mm less outhaul than usual for course racing. Judging from the other pics in the sequence he was getting ready for slalom racing at the time, and bagging out the sail a bit is common for slalom racing where acceleration is vital.

It's interesting to see on the French Windsurfer OD page that they are commenting on how little downhaul tension we use- they are adding multiple purchase blocks!

One Design sails are of course always deeper than "normal" windsurfer sails since we race in light winds and prefer a deeper shape that allows you to develop more power from a smaller and much lighter sail.The downside is higher drag and less stable handling. I reckon the tradeoff is dead right.

Mitch Pearson
QLD, 270 posts
31 Jan 2019 11:05AM
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Hey all here is a video I made of the Nationals


BenKirk
NSW, 600 posts
31 Jan 2019 1:19PM
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Good video! Looks a great event, amazing to see so many sailors in one spot.

Congrats to all those who pushed the Windsurfer LT forward.

windsufering
VIC, 1124 posts
3 Feb 2019 7:41AM
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10 races, double elimination salom, free style, marathon two social events with dinners and a event t shirt all for 160 bucks
now that's value. And over 100 competitors that's Fun looking forward to Adelaide

wally sailor
WA, 68 posts
5 Feb 2019 2:00PM
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Dividing the men's fleet evenly with very some small adjustments to ensure equity Light cut off - 71.9kg, Med - 79.6, Heavy 87.5, SH 88+


The cut off for SH at 88 has focused me to lose more weight. I'm currently 100kg and am the heaviest in WA in the LT fleet. I find I need about 18 knots wind to rail which is a bit frustrating as by then most of the fleet has gotten away from me. I have made a good start 7 years ago I weighed 118kg. I know there are others like me so if I can do it they can too. I was 106 in Oct 2018. Here's to better health and windsurfing competition!

cammd
QLD, 3779 posts
5 Feb 2019 4:59PM
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windsufering said..
Dividing the men's fleet evenly with very some small adjustments to ensure equity Light cut off - 71.9kg, Med - 79.6, Heavy 87.5, SH 88+



The cut off for SH at 88 has focused me to lose more weight. I'm currently 100kg and am the heaviest in WA in the LT fleet. I find I need about 18 knots wind to rail which is a bit frustrating as by then most of the fleet has gotten away from me. I have made a good start 7 years ago I weighed 118kg. I know there are others like me so if I can do it they can too. I was 106 in Oct 2018. Here's to better health and windsurfing competition!


Yep same problem here, at 97kg I think I was the heaviest in the Raceboard fleet this year, at least I had 9.5mtr rig, I can get onto the rail in 10 to 12knts with that size rig but 15 to 20knts is the sweet spot, I especially need to be well powered to not be smoked downwind.

Looking to get into the low 80's by the end of this year and its windsurfing competition that is the primary motivator.

wally sailor
WA, 68 posts
5 Feb 2019 6:18PM
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wally sailor said..


windsufering said..
Dividing the men's fleet evenly with very some small adjustments to ensure equity Light cut off - 71.9kg, Med - 79.6, Heavy 87.5, SH 88+




The cut off for SH at 88 has focused me to lose more weight. I'm currently 100kg and am the heaviest in WA in the LT fleet. I find I need about 18 knots wind to rail which is a bit frustrating as by then most of the fleet has gotten away from me. I have made a good start 7 years ago I weighed 118kg. I know there are others like me so if I can do it they can too. I was 106 in Oct 2018. Here's to better health and windsurfing competition!



Yep same problem here, at 97kg I think I was the heaviest in the Raceboard fleet this year, at least I had 9.5mtr rig, I can get onto the rail in 10 to 12knts with that size rig but 15 to 20knts is the sweet spot, I especially need to be well powered to not be smoked downwind.

Looking to get into the low 80's by the end of this year and its windsurfing competition that is the primary motivator.


Same, aiming for 90 in my case to be close to bottom of the super heavy weight division ??

Chris 249
NSW, 3352 posts
6 Feb 2019 10:21AM
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So who is coming to Garda for the worlds in July? It's an amazing place, surrounded by incredible mountains, culture, castles, some of the best road cycling in the world and some outstanding MTBing.










It's an easy day trip to Verona, full of Roman remains, and not too far to Venice. There are hotels and campgrounds within a few metres of the windsurfing club. Public transport from Venice and Verona airports is pretty easy.

Charter boards are available but numbers may have to be restricted, so you may have to get cracking. It'll be awesome!


albymongrel
NSW, 257 posts
7 Feb 2019 6:13PM
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Looks awesome Chris!

windsufering
VIC, 1124 posts
15 Feb 2019 7:37AM
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www.windsurferclass.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2019/02/iiwca-rtp24.pdf
windsurfer Lt making Windsurfing affordable again !
Olympic Bid !

cammd
QLD, 3779 posts
15 Feb 2019 1:53PM
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Hard to imagine World Sailing selecting gear that is a design from the seventies , I think if the gear changes from RSX then it will be to a foil

Gestalt
QLD, 14394 posts
15 Feb 2019 3:10PM
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Hard to imagine World Sailing selecting gear that is a design from the seventies , I think if the gear changes from RSX then it will be to a foil


except it's not a design from the seventies. it's as much a design from the 70's as every other iteration of windsurfer.

cammd
QLD, 3779 posts
15 Feb 2019 3:35PM
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cammd said..
Hard to imagine World Sailing selecting gear that is a design from the seventies , I think if the gear changes from RSX then it will be to a foil



except it's not a design from the seventies. it's as much a design from the 70's as every other iteration of windsurfer.


What chances would you give the wally as being the next Olympic board?

AUS 814
NSW, 452 posts
15 Feb 2019 4:45PM
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With the current rig zero chance, with a slightly bigger more modern rig, .....???????

windsufering
VIC, 1124 posts
15 Feb 2019 5:01PM
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AUS 814 said..
With the current rig zero chance, with a slightly bigger more modern rig, .....???????



They keep saying that about the 470 , laser , and Finn

azuli
QLD, 348 posts
15 Feb 2019 4:09PM
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Gestalt said..


cammd said..
Hard to imagine World Sailing selecting gear that is a design from the seventies , I think if the gear changes from RSX then it will be to a foil




except it's not a design from the seventies. it's as much a design from the 70's as every other iteration of windsurfer.



What chances would you give the wally as being the next Olympic board?


Stick a foil on it and anything could happen

cammd
QLD, 3779 posts
15 Feb 2019 4:17PM
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I think if there is appetite for a change in World Sailing that change will be for a fast and modern kit, which is why I think foils would be the most likely scenario.

A wally is kind of a standup laser already, why would you put in more of the same

windsufering
VIC, 1124 posts
15 Feb 2019 5:24PM
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Yea World sailing wants head aches , who's going to make the foils with strict tolerance just like the RSX finns

cammd
QLD, 3779 posts
15 Feb 2019 4:34PM
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Yea World sailing wants head aches , who's going to make the foils with strict tolerance just like the RSX finns


I'm not saying what I think is best, just what I think is most likely

Gestalt
QLD, 14394 posts
15 Feb 2019 4:56PM
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I think you guys under estimate the connections in the sailing world that some folk in the LT community have.

Gestalt
QLD, 14394 posts
15 Feb 2019 4:58PM
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Gestalt said..



cammd said..
Hard to imagine World Sailing selecting gear that is a design from the seventies , I think if the gear changes from RSX then it will be to a foil





except it's not a design from the seventies. it's as much a design from the 70's as every other iteration of windsurfer.




What chances would you give the wally as being the next Olympic board?



as much chance as any other type of windsurfer. if it were about latest and greatest then formula class would be the current race craft but as it turned out the rsx got up.

windsufering
VIC, 1124 posts
15 Feb 2019 6:09PM
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Well if numbers on the start line mean anything Aust should vote for the windsurfer LT
just let me remind you how big the class in Aust is , if you put Race boards , bic techno ,formula and foils together they still won't be larger than the windsurfer Lt

cammd
QLD, 3779 posts
15 Feb 2019 5:17PM
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The RSX was a more modern design than the mistral it replaced, in particular the rig, the mistral was a more modern design than the lechner and the lechner was a more modern design than the windglider. The wally would be bucking that pattern by regressing back to the windglider era with that rig

Can you really see that 5.7mtr rig being selected as the new 2024 windsurfing equipment, I can't regardless of who's connected to who.

Gestalt
QLD, 14394 posts
15 Feb 2019 5:33PM
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The RSX was a more modern design than the mistral it replaced, in particular the rig, the mistral was a more modern design than the lechner and the lechner was a more modern design than the windglider. The wally would be bucking that pattern by regressing back to the windglider era with that rig

Can you really see that 5.7mtr rig being selected as the new 2024 windsurfing equipment, I can't regardless of who's connected to who.


I was associates with windsurfing Qld back before the rsx got selected.

each state in Australia voted for which craft they felt should be used at the olympics so the awa could then nominate a class

Qld voted formula as did other states so the awa nominated formula.

rsx was selected. It had nothing to do with what class was a more modern choice. If it were then formula would have been selected as it was the epitome of modern racing windsurfers. The rsx was considered a better choice for a broad array of sailing conditions ie. It had a centreboard.

Gestalt
QLD, 14394 posts
15 Feb 2019 5:37PM
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Cam have you sailed an LT yet.

Gestalt
QLD, 14394 posts
15 Feb 2019 5:40PM
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azuli said..

cammd said..


Gestalt said..



cammd said..
Hard to imagine World Sailing selecting gear that is a design from the seventies , I think if the gear changes from RSX then it will be to a foil





except it's not a design from the seventies. it's as much a design from the 70's as every other iteration of windsurfer.




What chances would you give the wally as being the next Olympic board?



Stick a foil on it and anything could happen


foils don't work in 5 knots.

cammd
QLD, 3779 posts
15 Feb 2019 5:50PM
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cammd said..
The RSX was a more modern design than the mistral it replaced, in particular the rig, the mistral was a more modern design than the lechner and the lechner was a more modern design than the windglider. The wally would be bucking that pattern by regressing back to the windglider era with that rig

Can you really see that 5.7mtr rig being selected as the new 2024 windsurfing equipment, I can't regardless of who's connected to who.



I was associates with windsurfing Qld back before the rsx got selected.

each state in Australia voted for which craft they felt should be used at the olympics so the awa could then nominate a class

Qld voted formula as did other states so the awa nominated formula.

rsx was selected. It had nothing to do with what class was a more modern choice. If it were then formula would have been selected as it was the epitome of modern racing windsurfers. The rsx was considered a better choice for a broad array of sailing conditions ie. It had a centreboard.


Sure I understand what your saying, and like I said I am not trying to say what I think would be the best equipment for 2024. We can argue about foiling and planing and centreboard classes and one design vs box rule etc all day and we will all have different views.

My point is if the committee's who decide Olympic equipment have an appetite for change in 2024 than I think it will be a change for more modern equipment, that has been the pattern over time. The RSX was still a more modern design than a MOD, fundamentally different with a modern rig and formula like performance in planing conditions.




cammd
QLD, 3779 posts
15 Feb 2019 5:54PM
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azuli said..





cammd said..






Gestalt said..







cammd said..
Hard to imagine World Sailing selecting gear that is a design from the seventies , I think if the gear changes from RSX then it will be to a foil









except it's not a design from the seventies. it's as much a design from the 70's as every other iteration of windsurfer.








What chances would you give the wally as being the next Olympic board?







Stick a foil on it and anything could happen






foils don't work in 5 knots.





kites don't either but they are selected for 2024 so don't rely on that counting foils out



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