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Garmin GPSTC Datafield - to complement the Motion Simple Logger

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Created by tbwonder > 9 months ago, 3 Apr 2020
tonyk
QLD, 548 posts
11 Apr 2024 6:55AM
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Hi Andrew
I am sure this is documented somewhere but in short what are the key differences between your fin and foil versions

tbwonder
NSW, 660 posts
11 Apr 2024 8:16AM
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The Fin and Foil versions are identical.

They are just a mechanism to allow the user to have different settings for different disciplines.
Here are my current settings:




tonyk
QLD, 548 posts
11 Apr 2024 8:55AM
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tbwonder said..
The Fin and Foil versions are identical.

They are just a mechanism to allow the user to have different settings for different disciplines.
Here are my current settings:





Thanks for that Andrew, default settings are working fine for me

John340
QLD, 3182 posts
11 Apr 2024 9:31PM
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This has probably been asked but how do you download a .fit file from a Forerunner 255 session suitable for uploading into KA72? I tried following the Google instructions but couldn't make it work.

tbwonder
NSW, 660 posts
11 Apr 2024 11:21PM
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It can not be done on the Phone version of Garmin Connect.

On the computer version, click the Gear Icon and then select "Export Original"
GPSSpeedreader will be able to open this FIT File
If you want KA72 to read the FIT file you will need to set the FIT File logging setting in GPSTC V4 to zero

MobZ
NSW, 334 posts
12 Apr 2024 8:34PM
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I swear I've followed instructions for version 4 perfectly about a dozen times. But i can not get it set up as an activity right on Garmin 645 music. wot tha!? I was sure I was tech savvy but not so sure now since lots of people having no issues setting up.

John340
QLD, 3182 posts
27 Apr 2024 6:23PM
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tbwonder said..
It can not be done on the Phone version of Garmin Connect.

On the computer version, click the Gear Icon and then select "Export Original"
GPSSpeedreader will be able to open this FIT File
If you want KA72 to read the FIT file you will need to set the FIT File logging setting in GPSTC V4 to zero


Where and how do you set the FIT File logging in the data field?

tbwonder
NSW, 660 posts
27 Apr 2024 8:48PM
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It's one of the parameters that you set up in the Datafield settings by using either Garmin Connect IQ app on your phone or Garmin Express on your PC.

Dekkersurf
7 posts
8 Jul 2024 6:13PM
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Thanks for this great app tbwonder. I do have a question:
Setting the display units to kph has some side effects: The highest speed display setting for instance is from 20-40 but this means that the graph goes off the screen during sailing. Also when reviewing a session in Garmin connect all values are still in knots despite the global unit system being set to metric.
Am I overlooking something or is it basically 'knots only'?

tbwonder
NSW, 660 posts
15 Jul 2024 9:51PM
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Dekkersurf said..
Thanks for this great app tbwonder. I do have a question:
Setting the display units to kph has some side effects: The highest speed display setting for instance is from 20-40 but this means that the graph goes off the screen during sailing. Also when reviewing a session in Garmin connect all values are still in knots despite the global unit system being set to metric.
Am I overlooking something or is it basically 'knots only'?



Good questions. Not many people use the kmh setting. I need to have a look at the code and report back.

tbwonder
NSW, 660 posts
5 Oct 2024 4:37PM
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tbwonder said..

Dekkersurf said..
Thanks for this great app tbwonder. I do have a question:
Setting the display units to kph has some side effects: The highest speed display setting for instance is from 20-40 but this means that the graph goes off the screen during sailing. Also when reviewing a session in Garmin connect all values are still in knots despite the global unit system being set to metric.
Am I overlooking something or is it basically 'knots only'?




Good questions. Not many people use the kmh setting. I need to have a look at the code and report back.


Unfortunately the displayed units in Garmin Connect can not be changed by a setting in the app. However if you have selected km/h then the value should be in Km/h even though the displayed unit is still kts

tbwonder
NSW, 660 posts
5 Oct 2024 4:46PM
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I have made some modifications to the V4 datafield.
1. Added support for all new Fenix 8 watches
2. The option to display all 5 of the best 10 second runs.
3. The option to have a best 500m run displayed instead of the current Nautical Mile.

I have updated the documentation at www.haigh.id.au/GPSTC.htm

Both the Speed Version and the Foil version are available in the IQ store. Latest Version is 4.81

tonyk
QLD, 548 posts
5 Oct 2024 5:22PM
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tbwonder said..
I have made some modifications to the V4 datafield.
1. Added support for all new Fenix 8 watches
2. The option to display all 5 of the best 10 second runs.
3. The option to have a best 500m run displayed instead of the current Nautical Mile.

I have updated the documentation at www.haigh.id.au/GPSTC.htm

Both the Speed Version and the Foil version are available in the IQ store. Latest Version is 4.81


Thanks, love your work

AUS02
TAS, 2001 posts
6 Oct 2024 2:26PM
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That's great Andrew. Any feedback on the Garmin Fenix 8, as there was some discussion at one point that the 7 might not have been as good as the 6, so just wondering how the 8 compares to say the Fenix 6X (in terms of the GPS chip)?

tbwonder
NSW, 660 posts
6 Oct 2024 4:52PM
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I have no personal experience with the Fenix 8. Although the Queenslander who asked me to do the mods seems to be happy with it. I have been using the Forerunner 255 for the last year or so and I am incredibly impressed with it. It is the cheapest watch to have Multiband technology. It is significantly more accurate for windsurfing than my Fenix 5X.
There will probably be some good deals on Fenix 7 this summer, just make sure it has multiband, from memory the cheaper Fenix 7 do not have it.
Note the 255 is also discontinued, so there could be some good deals on those as well

AUS02
TAS, 2001 posts
6 Oct 2024 5:26PM
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Great, thanks. My Fenix 6X Pro is still having issues with the screen going blank for about a minute after each gybe (not sure why), so thinking of upgrading it. Might look at getting a Forerunner 255 just for sailing and keep the Fenix 6X for normal use, as it seems fine when not sailing.

tbwonder
NSW, 660 posts
6 Oct 2024 9:49PM
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check that your "The live speed display will display for extended period above this setting" is not set too low.
If you have elected to use the 'Speed Only (IC Setting)" then the screen can appear to go blank if the extended time trigger has been reached but you are travelling below the 'Live Speed will be displayed above' Setting. Which typically happens after a gybe.

Yes that's pretty confusing I know. Just set the "The live speed display will display for extended period above this setting" up to 50kts and see if that fixes it.

AUS02
TAS, 2001 posts
7 Oct 2024 5:29AM
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Thanks Andrew, I will try that. I do already have the "The live speed display will display for extended period above this setting" set to 50 knots so it doesn't come up while sailing. I played around with the settings yesterday (again) and I think under "Speed Display Scale" I had "Speed Page Off" and changed it to "Speed Only (IC Settings)". I will play around with these settings next time I go sailing and let you know how it goes.

TRIMMER
QLD, 215 posts
11 Oct 2024 6:16PM
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I have no personal experience with the Fenix 8. Although the Queenslander who asked me to do the mods seems to be happy with it. I have been using the Forerunner 255 for the last year or so and I am incredibly impressed with it. It is the cheapest watch to have Multiband technology. It is significantly more accurate for windsurfing than my Fenix 5X.
There will probably be some good deals on Fenix 7 this summer, just make sure it has multiband, from memory the cheaper Fenix 7 do not have it.
Note the 255 is also discontinued, so there could be some good deals on those as well


Andrews app works perfectly with Fenix 8 watch.
Have had 5 sessions now faultless and app works as it should

AUS02
TAS, 2001 posts
12 Oct 2024 11:06AM
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Great, good to know.

tonyk
QLD, 548 posts
15 Oct 2024 9:48AM
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While I manage ok I don't seem to get the most out Andrews great work
Has anyone experienced with Andrews data fields ever uploaded a YouTube video explaining the general operation
Could help tech dummies like me

SurferKris
385 posts
15 Oct 2024 6:25PM
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What is the problem?
The installation is quite well written: www.haigh.id.au/GPSTC.htm

I've struggled mostly with the watch itself, not being used to how the watch works.

tonyk
QLD, 548 posts
16 Oct 2024 6:56AM
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What is the problem?
The installation is quite well written: www.haigh.id.au/GPSTC.htm

I've struggled mostly with the watch itself, not being used to how the watch works.


The instructions are excellent and I am enjoying it
I don't want to make a big deal about this because I am the issue (it took me 2 years to get my head around the GW60)
A few things I tried did not go to plan and I know 100% it's my own doing
-I tired to adjust Andrews target defaults and that did not go well
-struggling to start the sail race timer count down, as far as I know it's loaded but I can't find it
I will just find a local expert and ask them to show me
Cheers TK

AUS02
TAS, 2001 posts
20 Oct 2024 7:50AM
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I played around with the settings and that seemed to have worked, having had two session and the screen hasn't gone blank at all. Also loving the new 5x10 display, that is a great added feature - well done!

tbwonder
NSW, 660 posts
24 Oct 2024 10:03PM
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With the recent addition of the 5*10 page that shows the best 5 ten second runs. I have decided to make the screen rotation user programmable. So instead of selecting if you want to see the 5*10 page or the Turns page you can now have neither, either or both.
There are four new user settings:
How long to display the "Best Page" Default = 4
How long to display the "Last Run Page" Default = 4
How long to display the "Turns Page" Default = 0
How long to display the "5 Best ten second Run page" Default = 0

If "0" is selected then the screen will not display
The default values will alternate between the "Best Page" and "Last Run page" every 4 seconds, exactly as it always has.
Speed Version V4.83 and Foil Version V4.82 in the IQ Store (Identical except for a typo)

Here are my current personal settings:



Here is the full list of currently supported watches:
Yes, the Fenix 8 models only have 128KB of Datafield memory.




John340
QLD, 3182 posts
4 Nov 2024 7:30AM
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The Garmin Forerunner 255 is a great watch and Andrew's Data Screens are brilliant but loading the data screens into the watch is very counterintuitive even using Andrew's comprehensive user manual. The data screen on my watch recently stopped working. I must have inadvertently pressed the wrong button on the watch and deleted it. So I had to reload it yesterday. After lots of swearing and button pushing I got there eventually. However I can't find on Garmin Connect where I input my preferences for target speeds, Fit log files etc. Any help would be appreciated.

tbwonder
NSW, 660 posts
6 Nov 2024 1:40PM
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I am finding the easiest and most reliable way is to do it through the 'Garmin IQ' app on your phone. You can use the Garmin Express program on a PC, but I find that often doesn't work

When you open the Garmin IQ app, select 'My Device' then 'My Datafields', from there it should be easy.

John340
QLD, 3182 posts
6 Nov 2024 9:42PM
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Thanks Andrew, all done

tbwonder
NSW, 660 posts
8 Nov 2024 8:18AM
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Garmin Forerunner 255 Music - Black | Rebel Sport
www.rebelsport.com.au/p/garmin-forerunner-255-music---black-639748.html#q=garmin%2B255&lang=en_AU&start=1

Great watch at a great price.

BSN101
WA, 2306 posts
8 Nov 2024 12:50PM
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Garmin Forerunner 255 Music - Black | Rebel Sport
www.rebelsport.com.au/p/garmin-forerunner-255-music---black-639748.html#q=garmin%2B255&lang=en_AU&start=1

Great watch at a great price.



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tbwonder said..
With the recent addition of the 5*10 page that shows the best 5 ten second runs. I have decided to make the screen rotation user programmable. So instead of selecting if you want to see the 5*10 page or the Turns page you can now have neither, either or both.
There are four new user settings:
How long to display the "Best Page" Default = 4
How long to display the "Last Run Page" Default = 4
How long to display the "Turns Page" Default = 0
How long to display the "5 Best ten second Run page" Default = 0

If "0" is selected then the screen will not display
The default values will alternate between the "Best Page" and "Last Run page" every 4 seconds, exactly as it always has.
Speed Version V4.83 and Foil Version V4.82 in the IQ Store (Identical except for a typo)

Here are my current personal settings:



Here is the full list of currently supported watches:
Yes, the Fenix 8 models only have 128KB of Datafield memory.





Andrew, I have a forerunner 745 and wonder if a screen showing the time is an option. Currently when I run the app for a sesh I don't know what the time is unless I pause the data recording. Also HR for the sesh. I'll be upgrading the watch soon too (solar enables model) and will look for the full sized screen. Cheers Dave



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